[asdfk]

I am going to dedicate some time on improving my day game in Tokyo. I usually get the instant date half of the time. But I have woe trouble interpreting the signals of the girls. It seems my normal way of escalating - which is aimed at banging them the first date but very slow to prevent last minute resistance - is considered too slow. I have done a few approaches so I am not sure yet.. but for example I isolated a girl at a party after 15 minutes and made out with her in an hidden staircase She was so into it that I really got the sense I could just lift up her skirt and slide right in, but I didn't because I amiss used to go slow as to maximize bangs. European girls loose attraction when you go to fast. However, here I got the idea the girl lost attraction because I went too slow. When I quit kissing and attempted to build more connection, she seemed disappointed and a bit turns off I had the same pattern a couple of times.

Im a bit reluctant to escalate to a bang very fast in a cold approach. Can playahs who cold approach successfully in Tokyo elaborate a bit if going fast is indeed the way to go? Or am I reading the situation wrong? How should I view escaping Japanese girls? How do you personally do it?

[Off The Reservation]

give them to tokyo joe and call it a night

[Periphrasis]

I haven't been to Tokyo, but I've done a lot of pickup in smaller Japanese cities. Getting the make-out usually means you could have gotten the bang. The problem is, you hadn't bounced her yet, meaning you gave her all the validation she was looking for that night without requiring anything substantial in return. You seemed to indicate that your normal game is to build a connection over the course of several hours and then go for the bang. That should work totally fine. Just make sure to get into a private space *after* the connection is built and *before* you get to the make-out. Then you'll be golden.

[Leonard Bernstein]

I think it's a mistake to build connection before sex. There's an old game adage: "The more time you spend with her before sex, the lower the chances you have of actually having sex with her". Connection comes after sex, not before. Your goal should be to keep it fluffy and try to pull quickly. Always try to pull in under an hour. With many girls it will work (any girl who'll fuck you in two hours will do so in one). If it doesn't, she'll only like you more for trying, and when you reattempt it will have a higher chance of working than if you hadn't tried earlier.

[Zerdame]

If you can get a public make out you can get the lay. I can't stress this enough. She might give you alot of LMR but nothing that a venue swap and tight game can't solve. This is a nation that frowns on PDA that even kissing for ordinary Japanese couples are met with looks of distaste, largely from the elderly. If a girl is willing to kiss you in public, she likes you and you're good to go. Don't trouble yourself with too much hold backs and thoughts, just go for it.

[LatinaLova]

Edit: Oops didn't realize this was a very old thread, no idea how I landed here!