[Dr. Howard]

(04-07-2016 11:19 AM)straightarrow Wrote:  

I was in same situation....girl banging me and saying this and that. I find her again on internet and confront her. She wigged out threw up and made a mess of herself. Within 2 weeks she was right back at it again. Dont lose any sleep over this chick as they women are now bigger whores than guys. They have a sport fuck mentality overall today thanks to the internet and you I we can not change them. Its their world and now that they make the rules play by them and have fun.

This girl was actually physically ill? Thats amazing.

The world of online dating has actually made the "LTR" a more conscious choice than saying "yeah we'll go steady" like you did back in 1985.

The first concrete step, besides the words in an LTR today is 'online dating disarmament' both parties must shut down their respective profiles, possibly with site visits by inspectors exactly like mutual weapons disarmament.

Is this a bad thing? I don't think so. I forces chicks to pay more than just lipservice to the LTR.

The conversation could go like:

Girl "oh I love you, lets be real boyfriend and girlfriend"
Guy "sure, you have 3 days to shut down all of your online dating sites and give me your facebook and phone password"
Girl ---obligatory meltdown---
Guy "I guess you're not ready for a commitment then"

That is essentially what the progression towards marriage is, giving someone else secure access to shit. I'm always impressed when I see christian couples that have one "jack and jill smith" facebook profile and an email address like "[email protected]"

^ and before you say it, I am fully aware that jill smith can just go and create "[email protected]" to cheat on her husband.

[Rhyme or Reason]

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Is this a bad thing? I don't think so. I forces chicks to pay more than just lipservice to the LTR.

Or just forces them to get more sneaky with covering their tracks.

[mother]

(04-07-2016 11:12 AM)Apollo21 Wrote:  

If you're not too serious about her and it's just casual dating then is it really an issue?

Exclusive means that you both are madly in love with each other and have
decided to date no one else forever and ever...but if you're really just casually dating then
I don't see Tinder as an issue.

I agree. I accept the fact that women will be seeing other guys. With their biological clock working against them they have a reason to to follow multiple leads.

I won't even ask. No point in hearing a lie. It just part of their game.

Here's an interesting quick read for the OP. A guy put a keylogger on his computer to catch his GFs' social media passwords. This is what he learned:
http://www.amazon.com/Key-Logger-Forbidd...=keylogger

It's free to read if you have kindle unlimited

[kaotic]

I've literally only given one women online a chance to be my LTR, she deleted Tinder a few days after giving me her number - this was even few days before meeting her, and she didn't use IG, or FB much. Just snapchat.

I've never trusted any girl from online unless they've proved otherwise. I've never expected a girl I fuck online to be anything but that....a fuck buddy.

Only 2 girls come to mind who claimed their loyalty to me, but I didn't. Reason is, I was in an LTR with the girl above. They had the "what are we talk" wanted more - I was set in stone and sent them on their ways.

You-just-can't-trust-these-hoes-online. PERIOD.

Unless she proves things in the long run, which clearly isn't in the OP's case.

Not sure why telling a girl "we should slow down" right BEFORE he goes to school is going help his situation.

At this point you either ghost her, or keep things fun and sexual, nothing more.

[Rhyme or Reason]

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You-just-can't-trust-these-hoes-online. PERIOD.

It's the truth, you can't. They are always damaged and always huge sluts.

They will, however go to lengths to try to retroactively deny their whoredome.

Don't fall for it.

If they decide they want to try to lock you down they will spin their story to make it seem like they're not really that ho you met and banged the first night, they just did that because they really liked you.

Don't fall for it.

[General Stalin]

(04-07-2016 05:34 PM)Red_Pillage Wrote:  

It's the truth, you can't. They are always damaged and always huge sluts.

I wouldn't go that far. Girls online are just normal girls that love attention, have idealistic ideas of what they want and what they think they deserve in a relationship, etc.

The big caveat with online is that most women become perpetual online daters. They have accounts for years and years. They may even disable it for a while when they get a little burnt out or if they find a a guy they want to chill with for a minute - but they reactivate it.

The ease of meeting men, getting attention, and getting dates with about zero effort is too addictive and convenient to give up. This of course makes them jaded.

I believe you certainly can meet good women online, but your best bet is to find the shy newbies who just made an account last week because they don't go out much yadda yadda yadda. Online dating contaminates women.

[kaotic]

(04-07-2016 06:01 PM)General Stalin Wrote:  

(04-07-2016 05:34 PM)Red_Pillage Wrote:  

It's the truth, you can't. They are always damaged and always huge sluts.

I wouldn't go that far. Girls online are just normal girls that love attention, have idealistic ideas of what they want and what they think they deserve in a relationship, etc.

The big caveat with online is that most women become perpetual online daters. They have accounts for years and years. They may even disable it for a while when they get a little burnt out or if they find a a guy they want to chill with for a minute - but they reactivate it.

The ease of meeting men, getting attention, and getting dates with about zero effort is too addictive and convenient to give up. This of course makes them jaded.

I believe you certainly can meet good women online, but your best bet is to find the shy newbies who just made an account last week because they don't go out much yadda yadda yadda. Online dating contaminates women.

Men who do alot of online dating NEED to read this over and over again.

This is one of the singmost important things they need to remind themselves when going on dates with women.

Unfortunately many do become serial carousels uh I mean daters.

[Deepdiver]

MTFU NEVER Complain NEVER explain - live your life and execute your mission and keep how ever many plates spinning that pleases YOU.

If they want to have the talk point blank ask them:

Are you asking for an exclusive commitment?

What is in it for me?

What are you willing to do to prove you are serious.

Hint: If they are serious DELETE not just disable ALL Social Media Accounts

DELETE Match, OKC, Tinder, IG, FB, SA, Periscope and Sugar Sites, LinkedIN etc etc etc unless they can prove real biz use.

DELETE ALL Texting contacts BFFs, GBFs, CockBlockers and Orbiters at the minimum only allowed contacts you and direct family and maybe their boss if she has not slept with them.

DELETE all previous LTRs or FIANCEs as these will be their rebound and safety bangs.

DELETE on all Contacts on Cell Phones, Notebook and Desktop PCs and all Tablets - hiding any devices is grounds for immediate NEXTING. If they can not delete then get a new Cell and Number and scrub the old phone ram chips remove sim if any and sell it laying around in a desk is unsat.

Sign an exclusivity agreement (a proxy and test run for a prenup) where she agrees to all Neomasculine requirements you may have and may think off including your specific RED FLAGS in and out of the bedroom. She gets 5 red flags to be fair otherwise, she will write up a list longer than a toilet paper roll and just as useful.

My classic is she gets a DNA test to prove genetic health and if she does not give me at least two sons I have the right to take a handmaiden mistress she will treat as a sister wife who will give me sons (Invitro selection if I have to) and the sons will be my primary heirs and legatees.

This is the time to be a mega asshole because once she shows you a + sign on a pregnancy test all bets are off and you are fooked Maury Povich Baby Daddy Lottery Sweepstakes-style.

DO YOU DO THE SAME FOR HER? They ask, HELL NO... Why? Family and divorce courts are so lopsided against Men in the west I just say look the only way I can trust a wife is to move to countries not ruined by rampant malignant militant Feminist SJWism.

If I were to knock up a seemingly decent LTR I would only do so in the USA once I got a second passport just in case she goes NUTZ and gets her lawyer to ask the Judge to demand you hand over your passport. I have a crazy former coworker with Child Support payments to 3 women for 4 kids makes $140K a year and has Zero assets lives on debt. Judges fought over who could seize his passport. INSANITY. A second passport in a decent neutral country gives you an escape hatch to BugTFOut if necessary - of course, hide your 2nd Passport where only you can find it - Whitey Bulger Style best behind the sheetrock in your back door exit wall in a bugout bag with gold and cash, escape knife with glass knockout punch if "detained", a ccp and 9mm. Read 2nd Passports and going offshore articles on Nomad Capitalist.

Period The End.

[Suits]

(04-06-2016 05:21 PM)General Stalin Wrote:  

There's an old adage on here:

"If you found her online, you'll lose her online."

Is this adage older than the Internet?

[Rsmall75]

I am confused. is she your gf as in you two talked about being exclusive? If not then why do you even care? You just said its not too serious so why are you giving her shit for it.

Also this issue is not exclusive to AMerican women though it might happen less with foreigners. Dated a few Russians and they were hoes too

[Svoboda]

(04-07-2016 06:46 PM)Deepdiver Wrote:  

MTFU NEVER Complain NEVER explain - live your life and execute your mission and keep how ever many plates spinning that pleases YOU.

If they want to have the talk point blank ask them:

Are you asking for an exclusive commitment?

What is in it for me?

What are you willing to do to prove you are serious.

Hint: If they are serious DELETE not just disable ALL Social Media Accounts

DELETE Match, OKC, Tinder, IG, FB, SA, Periscope and Sugar Sites, LinkedIN etc etc etc unless they can prove real biz use.

DELETE ALL Texting contacts BFFs, GBFs, CockBlockers and Orbiters at the minimum only allowed contacts you and direct family and maybe their boss if she has not slept with them.

DELETE all previous LTRs or FIANCEs as these will be their rebound and safety bangs.

DELETE on all Contacts on Cell Phones, Notebook and Desktop PCs and all Tablets - hiding any devices is grounds for immediate NEXTING. If they can not delete then get a new Cell and Number and scrub the old phone ram chips remove sim if any and sell it laying around in a desk is unsat.

Sign an exclusivity agreement (a proxy and test run for a prenup) where she agrees to all Neomasculine requirements you may have and may think off including your specific RED FLAGS in and out of the bedroom. She gets 5 red flags to be fair otherwise, she will write up a list longer than a toilet paper roll and just as useful.

My classic is she gets a DNA test to prove genetic health and if she does not give me at least two sons I have the right to take a handmaiden mistress she will treat as a sister wife who will give me sons (Invitro selection if I have to) and the sons will be my primary heirs and legatees.

This is the time to be a mega asshole because once she shows you a + sign on a pregnancy test all bets are off and you are fooked Maury Povich Baby Daddy Lottery Sweepstakes-style.

DO YOU DO THE SAME FOR HER? They ask, HELL NO... Why? Family and divorce courts are so lopsided against Men in the west I just say look the only way I can trust a wife is to move to countries not ruined by rampant malignant militant Feminist SJWism.

If I were to knock up a seemingly decent LTR I would only do so in the USA once I got a second passport just in case she goes NUTZ and gets her lawyer to ask the Judge to demand you hand over your passport. I have a crazy former coworker with Child Support payments to 3 women for 4 kids makes $140K a year and has Zero assets lives on debt. Judges fought over who could seize his passport. INSANITY. A second passport in a decent neutral country gives you an escape hatch to BugTFOut if necessary - of course, hide your 2nd Passport where only you can find it - Whitey Bulger Style best behind the sheetrock in your back door exit wall in a bugout bag with gold and cash, escape knife with glass knockout punch if "detained", a ccp and 9mm. Read 2nd Passports and going offshore articles on Nomad Capitalist.

Period The End.

You should turn some of this into a novel. Or write a script for a tv series.

[straightarrow]

This is some of the best advise I have read. Having the gift of monday morning quarterback now I cant for the life of me see how you get an honest one in the USA. Today they all have I phones and are forver on them texting surfing fishing for the next big catch of the day. They ckukd have a serious keeper guy right in their lap and they will still continue to text surf contact other guys even while you sit right next to them.
They seem to need constant attention and spark like a forever fantasy disney world of men only a click away.I think its almost impossible to keep this pace as a man as your only the flavor of the day.
And yes the girl did throw up I spoke about only because she got caught at her sneaky game. Not for fear of losing me but because her bullshit ways were uncovered and told right back to her face. Man the back peddle this bitch said was epic...now going forward in the new age you must protect yourself men. I would not ever ever ever put them before yourself. Go to school better yourself body and mind and pussy will always be there. As we go forward in time I think the girl and her actions or lack of will only get worse. Think about it guys they have a renewable resource between their legs and when they use it ...its still there. Thats the best oil well god ever created. Bottomless high value asset good until into their fifties if they take care of themself. There will always be some guy with money that has no clue of the hundreds of guys she has banged starting from say age 16ish. Fuck fuck fuck for 30 years or more...then go to plam beach hang out at a country club or marina and land an older guy with money thats happy just to fuck once a week and roll with the washed up 7 that she is. Oh yeah she still will have her I phone and there is always the pool boy or other thirsty guys at the CC or marina just waiting to take your place and they will. I am lucky as I care much more about other stuff in life and am over their drama and games but now I see most of them with a lot clearer view. Sorry if I come of jaded guys but If we were at a bar drinkin beers I could tell you some stories of how shark like some of therm are/were $$$$$$

[straightarrow]

As a side note. What woman gets dumped by her ex bf and is still friends on fuck book with him? And not in a good way as far as being dumped goes. She says that he showed not interest in her when he saw her and waited to dump her over the phone. Now months later they are still friends on fb and still talking when he has another girl already? Oh yeah the chick says she is still good friends with all her exes and they call to talk all the time...yep im laughing right now. Yiu get dumped kicked out thrown on the street and your still fb friends omg these bitches have to spin it like they do because most of them I have found out via personal case study...lol have very shallow lives jobs and careers. But they still deserve trips around the world and expect top flight guys to want them with very little to give back but sex. I cant tell you how many have barely gone anywhere in the USA let alone overseas. If I tell them where I have been and work at it almost sounds like bs compared to how they live. If you question them about relationships you get a lot of well this guy treated me bad and his kids were monsters blah blah blah.

[Rhyme or Reason]

(04-07-2016 07:57 PM)Suits Wrote:  

(04-06-2016 05:21 PM)General Stalin Wrote:  

There's an old adage on here:

"If you found her online, you'll lose her online."

Is this adage older than the Internet?

Why don't we ask the man himself?

[straightarrow]

Lol global warming to AL.

[LeeEnfield303]

(04-06-2016 05:58 PM)General Stalin Wrote:  

Catching a girl in the act and calling her out won't do you any favors.

Exactly. This is drama, and girls love drama. Don't feed the hamster.

Just bang her until you are tired of it, then ghost. Let her hamster spin on that for a while.

[straightarrow]

303 was a good round.

[nonconformist]

Dude, just STOP. Why do you keep lying to yourself and wanting to engage in drama (drama you created in your head).

She doesn't care about you (as much as you care for her)

Remember, whatever you tell her; realize that she will react to it one way or another.
And more importantly, what is the benefit of telling her anything? Did she tell you she was going to go on Tinder so she can can get pumped by other dudes? NOPE!!!!

Just stop, go do your thing and stop trying to please her and "look" like the nice guy.

[LongDongSilver]

Some women are just fucked in the head, i had an ex like this that HAD to be communicating with exes states away and other annoying disrespectful shit. Its not worth your time trying to change them. Once a sneaky underhanded cunt always a sneaky underhanded cunt.

Get as much pussy out if it as you want, maybe some guilt anal or a guilt threesome and get out of dodge.

[XPQ22]

(04-08-2016 09:03 AM)straightarrow Wrote:  

Today they all have I phones and are forver on them texting surfing fishing for the next big catch of the day. They ckukd have a serious keeper guy right in their lap and they will still continue to text surf contact other guys even while you sit right next to them.

Yep, I see this all the time at bars/clubs. Girl is there with her "boyfriend" and every time he gets up to take a leak she's on the phone checking out Tinder or texting away with some other guy. I see girls on OKCupid who freely admit that they're in some kind of relationship with one or more other guys and they're still on there on the hunt for new dick. A girl chats with me at a club and gives me her phone number and asks me to hit her up sometime, a week later I see her leave the club with some other guy, sometime later I check out her FB and see that she's in a "LTR" with some herb who isn't any of us.

Getting into a monogamous LTR with most modern young American women in the age of social media is pretty much being a soft cuck, and I've gladly banged some of these girls because if it's not me it's going to be someone else. Good grief Charlie Brown, this is not news.

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What woman gets dumped by her ex bf and is still friends on fuck book with him? And not in a good way as far as being dumped goes. She says that he showed not interest in her when he saw her and waited to dump her over the phone. Now months later they are still friends on fb and still talking when he has another girl already?

Who gives a shit.

[Tex]

Kaotic murked this thread with truth.

If your girl has a Tinder your girl is single.

[Off The Reservation]

New GF for you from Tinder

[Kona]

I don't know anything about tinder.

Is it possible to make a fake Tinder and lure her to meet some fake dude somewhere and then you show up?

Just a thought. Fight tinder with tinder kind of thing.

Aloha!

[Tex]

(04-08-2016 09:07 PM)offthereservation Wrote:  

New GF for you from Tinder

"Urban." In the sense that she's the size of Hollygrove?

Koma Wrote:

I don't know anything about tinder.

Is it possible to make a fake Tinder and lure her to meet some fake dude somewhere and then you show up?

Just a thought. Fight tinder with tinder kind of thing.

Aloha!

I don't even see a reason OP should waste his time with it.

Like Kaotic said, there's no point in shaming her or trying to get her to see how she disrespected him. The discussion ended a long time ago.

[Polo]

I agree with much of the advice already given, but thought I'd share my similar experience in the hope that it helps you think things through.

I had been seeing a girl that I had met on Tinder for a few months, and we had become "official" and both deleted Tinder. Curious one day, I decided to do some "due diligence" with her phone. I discovered her still-active Tinder account, complete with flirty chats with a number of matches. My first instinct was to immediately drop her - which I tried to do. I sat her down and said, basically, "I saw your Tinder account. I can't trust you anymore, and so I think we should break up." She starts crying, begs for forgiveness, tells me she just liked the attention, had never actually met with any of the guys (which was credible), promised to change, etc. She was young and seemed genuinely contrite, so I decided to give her a second chance. Long story short: she shaped up and everything went smoothly until it ended when I moved out of town.

In my case, I knew I had an upcoming move that would end the relationship regardless, which made things easier since I already knew this girl wasn't forever. So I did the cost-benefit analysis and decided that in my situation the benefits I'd get from staying "official" with her until I moved outweighed the costs. However, I privately decided that I wouldn't turn down other opportunities that arose. I will leave my ethical reasoning on that for another day.

Without knowing the particulars of your situation, I would recommend the following. Confront her about it, but COOLLY, neutrally, not at all butthurt. I'd basically say: "I saw your Tinder account, so I don't think you should be my girlfriend anymore. We can still hang out though, if you want." If she begs for forgiveness, you can decide on how genuine she is, and either give her another chance at exclusivity (but remain wary - forgive but don't forget), or just say sorry, it's done, and then just consider her a possible plate. If she doesn't beg for forgiveness, then that's that and if you're genuinely pissed just ghost on her, or if you're a nihilist like me lol just consider her a potential plate.

I think this is better than just passively plating her or ghosting on her. Passively plating her puts you in an ambiguous situation which probably is more trouble than its worth. Ghosting on her means tossing potentially useful pussy. That's not bad necessarily (abundance mentality), but unless you want to make a point, you might as well conserve the resource.