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Transitioning from MGTOW to game
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Transitioning from MGTOW to game

I started going on here interested in game but looked at my fat, poor self and decided fitness and lifestyle were too fucked to be stepping to girls and have gotten those ironed out.

Sex has been sporadic though, I was getting laid occasionally through social circle and game awareness but I moved and am in a dry spell. Looking to start hammering away at game.

Money's good, lost 50 pounds (more to go) but I'm a bit of a recluse. I'm looking to get social again, I roll with a few people but haven't been going out.

I'm going out drinking on Friday and am in general going to be going out nights. I ordered Bang.

Any tips on getting in the proper state or is Bang my first assignment?
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Transitioning from MGTOW to game

I'd say Bang is a great way to start. Congrats on your progress, 50lbs is some serious poundage.

It sounds like you're in my general demo. For guys our age, I'd highly recommend attending networking groups as a way to make friends and develop your exposure to opportunity. Check out meetup.com in your area to find some small business round-table, entrepreneurial group, or young professional network.

I've done everything I could think of to create social networks. Some of the less successful attempts included singles events, going out too often and drinking too much, and making friends with the people who worked at a bar, going back to a house party with them and doing a lot of drugs.

The best social events I've attended are RVF meetups, career/job/networking fairs, special art exhibits, and veteran groups (which are personal to me, you might find something different).

My advice for attending these things are to try a lot of them, but most importantly, make ONE connection that you can develop a common interest with and follow up with in the future. It's most likely that you'll go to a few things, meet a few people and end up with squat for a few months. It took me years. But it's really only a matter of weeks once you get things going. The info below might help speed things up:

1) Get involved in what's going on at the event. Work your way into the mood of the room, try to be part of what's going on. There are a lot of ways to do this and a lot of it changes based on your situation. Don't be a wallflower, but don't be the life of the party. Be friendly with people, but it's okay to text some friends and do shit on your phone. Carry yourself with confidence and purpose, but it's ok to wander and make light conversation.

2) Boy does it help to remember peoples' names. If you can develop one great skill it might be this. Here's why and it might just be the one great key to succeeding at a networking-style event:

--Talk to someone at the event. Make light conversation for a couple minutes then politely move on as the conversation naturally fades. Meet more people, get a drink, grab a snack, go check out an exhibit. If you meet that person again, wave them down or motion for them to come over to you. Introduce them to the person you're speaking to, using the first person's name and an interesting detail. You've just facilitated a connection.

--Now apply this principle in other ways. You met someone at a job fair, and you see them at a concert. They know you and remember that you were cool, friendly, and helpful. I can't tell you how many times this leads to them inviting you to an after party or another event. It's like magic. It doesn't matter who you are or what you look like. If you can connect two people you can work your way into an amazing job, a great circle of friends and the hottest girl's pants.

3) Use Linked-in, Facebook or whatever to extend the connection you have with people you meet. Phone numbers will come eventually as you make friends, but social media can be a great way to anchor the connection.

4) Spend the first 5-10 events practicing your socializing. This just means you try to do everything the right way, but don't beat yourself up too much if you totally fuck up. Be patient with yourself.

5) Move up. There's no point in keeping shitty connections. Discard ones that aren't worthwhile and find your way into more exclusive circles where the people are better influences on you. This sounds callous but I don't really care. There's some pretty awesome stuff in life you can find when you don't limit yourself. Like Groucho said, I don't want to belong to any club that will have me as a member. RVF requires you to constantly improve yourself, so it still fits.

This was pretty off the cuff but I hope it helps.

The idea is pretty simple. By connecting two other people, you simultaneously reduce the degrees of separation between you and the people you want to meet in your sphere of interaction while developing exposure.

Edit: It should go without saying that if you meet a hot girl, you don't introduce her to another guy. However, I also want to note that while you should be constantly mindful of the opportunity to do an approach or number close a ho, I very much discourage indescriminate poon-hounding at networking events and the like. You'll network your way into more appropriate venues for that kind of thing. Caveman game should be left at home for this.

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Transitioning from MGTOW to game

Thank you, that is very helpful and gives me something to start with.
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#4

Transitioning from MGTOW to game

I think Roosh talks about the 100 approach challenge in the book. It gives you a defined goal and a solid foundation once complete.

Go out solo. Don't rely on other people.
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Transitioning from MGTOW to game

I agree the go out solo + join social groups. Both will complement each other.

The going out solo will force you find cool places you enjoy since you can't rely a friend's company. On the flipside you now can organize outings to cool places with your social groups.

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