[EEB]

Water intake should vary based on what else you are drinking and eating. Like all things that pertain to your body, it's best to keep a log as to how much water you need when and under what circumstances. Computer spreadsheets for your PC and phone ideal for this.

At the end of the day, you need to keep the pipes clean. But not to the extent of spending all your free time in the boys' room.

[Seadog]

(07-08-2017 12:32 PM)The Beast1 Wrote:  

A lot of age related skin issues is due to perpetual dehydration.

You may not need to drink 8 glasses a day, but if your only liquid intakes are diuretics (coffee, sodas, etc) you'll need twice the water to replace it which is where I guess the 8 glasses comes from. They're probably assuming a person consumes coffee perpetually all through the morning.

I'm not sure how accurate the idea of things like soda (or even coffee) being net dehydraters is.

I googled this a few years ago after getting concerned about my diet pop intake because I was literally drinking more pop than water. If I'm not even replacing the water lost from the pop, how am I not a dry bag of sand? The reasoning went along the lines of if the caffeine levels in cola is a net dehydrater, meaning you piss out more than 1 can of urine from one can drank, then coffee, which has 5x the caffeine, means you would piss out >60 oz per 12 oz of coffee consumed. I know people that drink 5 cups of coffee a day, and if pop were a net diuretic, those people would be literally pissing out 10-15 liters in a day. Similarly, if you consume 3 x 200mg caffeine as part of say an EC stack for weightloss without the associated fluid, you aren't pissing out 2 gallons/day. If a 20 lb water weight swing were as easy as popping a few caffeine pills, you wouldn't see the lengths ppl go to for weigh ins of sitting in saunas for hours in sweat suits.

That said I try and drink at least 1.5-2L of water/day, and then maybe a couple other drinks like coffee or diet pop. I drink tap water (at least in the first world), feel it's fine, and think that most of the idea behind filtered/spring/distilled water is mostly psychological and marketing. Maybe it is better, but best I can tell any benefit is marginal to the point of non-detection, as there is no painfully obvious benefits aside from people's anecdotal experience. Naturally these will be biased, because if it *wasn't* of great benefit, then the people spending all the money on these things would look and feel foolish.

[heavy]

I've never paid attention to my water intake except when exercising (before HS sports, before BJJ, before a summer hike, etc).

My body tells me when it needs water. I refer to it as, thirst.

[JayJuanGee]

(07-14-2017 11:22 AM)heavy Wrote:  

I've never paid attention to my water intake except when exercising (before HS sports, before BJJ, before a summer hike, etc).

My body tells me when it needs water. I refer to it as, thirst.

I don't know how old you are, but sometimes common sense escapes some youthful people when they consider their own experiences and the ramifications on health and strength.

For example, when you are young, you can abuse the shit out of your body and it recovers and you might not experience many negative side effects..... but whatever you are doing might not be good advice, even though it is currently working for you.

So yeah, for some period you might be able to take various laize-faire approaches to nutrition, exercise and hydration, but as you get older and as your body becomes more insulin resistant and less able to bounce back as easily, you have to become more proactive in terms of thinking about how to keep yourself strong, energetic and attempt to prevent various possible downward spirals.

So, sometimes if you wait to drink water until you are thirsty, you might be too late..

Many years ago I worked in a hospital, and I recall seeing many folks (old young and in various conditions) come into the emergency room with a lot of various fucked up symptoms, and ended up that they were dehydrated because they were not being proactive in their drinking of water.

[Celestial]

(07-14-2017 08:18 AM)CaptainChardonnay Wrote:  

I bought a Berkey water filter a while back. It has a fluoride filter you can attach and makes my hard tap water taste significantly different. Less hard I would say.

Did you notice any health benefits?

[Oz.]

Does anyone recommend a specific filter? The water in my apartment tastes horrible and I am afraid to get it tested because I know the results will be disturbing. I drink bottled water most of the time due to this but I am aware of the negative effects of that also

[CaptainChardonnay]

^I recommend the Berkey water filter. I've seen people pour swamp water into the berkey and drink it on youtube. I can't find the video right now but have a look around. I immediately noticed a different taste to the water after I filtered it through the Berkey.

I mean its just drinking clean water so I don't think you would get any immediate noticeable health benefits. I think where drinking filtered water comes into play are long term health benefits. If anything you know for sure that you're drinking clean water.

What made me get a filter was when TravelerKai posted a photo of a house water filtration system and the brown sludge the filter filtered grossed me out. It's in a thread somewhere on the forum.

Also apparently the city water filtration systems don't filter out chemicals that can be in the water.

Zero water has the chance of bacteria growing in the filter. The britta filter barely does anything. Also the berkey is the cheapest water filter per amount of water filtered compared to the zero water and britta filter. You can find that info on their website. It has a higher initial cost but in the long term its more value. The Berkey filteres last a long ass time.

[Oz.]

(07-14-2017 09:56 PM)CaptainChardonnay Wrote:  

^I recommend the Berkey water filter. I've seen people pour swamp water into the berkey and drink it on youtube. I can't find the video right now but have a look around. I immediately noticed a different taste to the water after I filtered it through the Berkey.

I mean its just drinking clean water so I don't think you would get any immediate noticeable health benefits. I think where drinking filtered water comes into play are long term health benefits. If anything you know for sure that you're drinking clean water.

What made me get a filter was when TravelerKai posted a photo of a house water filtration system and the brown sludge the filter filtered grossed me out. It's in a thread somewhere on the forum.

Also apparently the city water filtration systems don't filter out chemicals that can be in the water.

Zero water has the chance of bacteria growing in the filter. The britta filter barely does anything. Also the berkey is the cheapest water filter per amount of water filtered compared to the zero water and britta filter. You can find that info on their website. It has a higher initial cost but in the long term its more value. The Berkey filteres last a long ass time.

Thanks bro, which size do you own? did a bit of looking into these and people complain that it spills a lot of water, have you had anything like that happen?

[Shepherd]

The importance of water in your everyday life takes on a special meaning after you get your first kidney stone.

Kidney stones are an insufferable hell of an experience to live through. I've blown out both of my knees from sports related activities, and it still doesn't touch the pain of a kidney stone passing through the ureter to the bladder.

(07-08-2017 04:03 PM)HighSpeed_LowDrag Wrote:  

I've always gone by what was pounded into my head repeatedly during basic training - "If you're not pissing clear, you're not drinking enough."

This was the exact advice I got from Emergency Room Doc 1, Emergency Room Doc 2, and another General Practitioner.

Here is one of these little bastards underneath a microscope:



So basically, prepare to piss sharp gravel.

Case in point...

Drink water!

[CaptainChardonnay]

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Thanks bro, which size do you own? did a bit of looking into these and people complain that it spills a lot of water, have you had anything like that happen?

I got the Travel Berkey. Not too big, not too small. I fill it up about once a day. I figure if I travel somewhere I an stick it in my luggage and bring it with me.

The filter will spill if you over fill it. So if there still water in the lower part and you fill up the top part, it will spill. What I do is I use up all the water and then fill it up so I don't get a spill. This is easy because I fill up stainless steel or glass bottles and then stick them in the fridge to cool. What you install everything just make sure all the seals are tight and then you're good to go. They also have a really good warranty from what I remember reading if you by chance do get one thats messed up.

Here is the filter comparison on the Berkey website I mentioned earlier.
https://www.berkeyfilters.com/berkey-ans...omparison/

Speaking of bottles, I use the Klean Kanteen Stainless Steel Wide Mouth Bottle 40-Ounce. The inside of the lid is made of stainless steel so the water inside pretty much doesn't touch any plastic, only the rubber o-ring.

[EEB]

(03-29-2016 02:30 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

I drink about 1 gallon of semi filtered water a day. I throw in a chamomile and green tea bag in there also.

Ginger tea is something to consider. It has a nice "bite" to it and is said to be good for digestion and overall health. I've also noticed it holds back any hunger pains if I don't have ready access to a healthy snack.

Tea bags are good things to carry with you at all times. A small selection of the caffeinated and non-caffeinated (herbal) varieties don't take up much space in a bag, briefcase, or backpack. Hot water is easy to find just about anywhere and often a no cost. As long as you don't add any sugar, tea is a real healthy "drinkable" snack.

[Enigma]

I keep seeing people say that the better water filters (Berkey, Reverse Osmosis, etc.) take out important minerals.

But I haven't seen any solutions to this.

Is there a filter that doesn't remove the minerals? Do you add the minerals back in? Do you take a mineral supplement?

[DJ-Matt]

I purchase filtered water from those little self service kiosks that are all over my city. They also sell bags of ice cheap. I can fill a 5 gallon jug for $1 and that lasts quite a while. I bought one of those crockery dispensers with a wooden stand from a garage sale:



Obviously this doesn't work for a SHTF situation, but it's safe water, they do reverse osmosis which removes all the shit including fluoride, and there are some other processes it goes through:

- Active carbon filter
- Micron filtration
- UV light cleansing
- Ion exchange
(I copied these from the kiosk sign)

[redbeard]

After three weeks of using a Berkey I am officially a water snob.

Buy one of these. It's fucking delicious.

[The Beast1]

(07-14-2017 11:18 AM)Seadog Wrote:  

(07-08-2017 12:32 PM)The Beast1 Wrote:  

A lot of age related skin issues is due to perpetual dehydration.

You may not need to drink 8 glasses a day, but if your only liquid intakes are diuretics (coffee, sodas, etc) you'll need twice the water to replace it which is where I guess the 8 glasses comes from. They're probably assuming a person consumes coffee perpetually all through the morning.

I'm not sure how accurate the idea of things like soda (or even coffee) being net dehydraters is.

I googled this a few years ago after getting concerned about my diet pop intake because I was literally drinking more pop than water. If I'm not even replacing the water lost from the pop, how am I not a dry bag of sand? The reasoning went along the lines of if the caffeine levels in cola is a net dehydrater, meaning you piss out more than 1 can of urine from one can drank, then coffee, which has 5x the caffeine, means you would piss out >60 oz per 12 oz of coffee consumed. I know people that drink 5 cups of coffee a day, and if pop were a net diuretic, those people would be literally pissing out 10-15 liters in a day. Similarly, if you consume 3 x 200mg caffeine as part of say an EC stack for weightloss without the associated fluid, you aren't pissing out 2 gallons/day. If a 20 lb water weight swing were as easy as popping a few caffeine pills, you wouldn't see the lengths ppl go to for weigh ins of sitting in saunas for hours in sweat suits.

That said I try and drink at least 1.5-2L of water/day, and then maybe a couple other drinks like coffee or diet pop. I drink tap water (at least in the first world), feel it's fine, and think that most of the idea behind filtered/spring/distilled water is mostly psychological and marketing. Maybe it is better, but best I can tell any benefit is marginal to the point of non-detection, as there is no painfully obvious benefits aside from people's anecdotal experience. Naturally these will be biased, because if it *wasn't* of great benefit, then the people spending all the money on these things would look and feel foolish.

Really? You're seriously trying to argue in support of consuming diet soda regularly?

Get some juice and green tea. There's absolutely nothing healthy about drinking diet soda.

[Oz.]

I'm about to drop the money on a Berkey.

When you go to buy one of these it gives you a bunch of options at the buying page of extra filters and 50% off accessories. Whats the best bang for your buck here? or did you guys just get the filter by itself?

https://www.berkeyfilters.com/berkey-wat...erkey.html

[zoom]

I bought the travel sized Berkey and its the right size for me as an individual. Definitely get the stainless steel spigot. I bought the fluoride filters too but I took them off because it made the water taste worse. I think it's because the plastic filters just sit in the water.

[Mikestar]

Question: If I could only choose between North UK tap water or regular plastic bottled water which one is healthier? I know plastics are bad but everyone also tells that tap water is too as some chemicals are not filtered.

[zoom]

^^ In my opinion they would be about the same. Some brands of bottled water are actually just tap water. I would save money and drink the tap water, but it depends on the quality and taste of the tap water in your particular town.

[quino_16]

I am finally trying to reduce my water intake from plastic bottles. So, I have been looking into distilled water. Supposedly, distilled water is good for getting rid of toxins.

Have any you of guys tried a distilled water detox of sorts? And, which is better - distilled or filtered water?

[zoom]

^^ Filtered water is better, but distilled water should be fine as long as you get your daily dose of minerals through your food or multivitamin. Distilled water does not contain any minerals in it.

[swuglyfe]

HT: Isaac Jordan
https://qz.com/1071764/83-of-tap-water-t...tic-in-it/
TL;DR- stop fucking drinking tap water or really any liquids that you didn't put through some sort of legitimate filter.

Extremely small pieces of plastic, too tiny to be removed by water filtration systems, are turning up in the vast majority of tap-water systems globally.

The US-based non-profit journalism outfit Orb sampled tap water from more than a dozen countries globally, and found 83% of the samples were contaminated with plastic fibers. These fibers are known to shed off of synthetic fabric in clothes dryers, though there are likely many other sources.

Tap water from the US—where machine-drying clothing is ubiquitous—was the most contaminated, with plastic fibers showing up in 94% of Orb’s samples. Lebanon also had a 94% contamination rate, and India was next-most contaminated, with 82% of samples containing plastic. Europe had plastic fibers in 72% of its samples.

When plastic degrades, it breaks down into smaller and smaller pieces—but it doesn’t disappear. These minuscule pieces of plastic, along with the synthetic fabric fibers, are turning up in more and more places as more researchers begin to look.
Previous studies found people can sometimes ingest microplastics when they eat seafood, and that the average European shellfish eater is ingesting around 6,400 pieces of microplastic per year. Fish seem to be attracted to microplastic, and ingesting the stuff has been associated with behavioral changes and liver toxicity in the animals.

But there is currently no consensus on what, if any, health effects could be associated with humans continuously ingesting microplastic. Little research has been done to assess the risk to humans (and a randomized controlled trial isn’t possible, since you can’t ethically feed humans plastic) but plastic generally is known to absorb and release chemicals that harm human health.
“Chemicals from plastics are a constant part of our daily diet,” Scott Belcher, a toxicology researcher at North Carolina State University and a spokesperson for The Endocrine Society, told Orb. Generally speaking, plastics are constantly “breaking down and leaching chemicals, including endocrine-disrupting plasticizers like BPA or phthalates, flame retardants, and even toxic heavy metals that are all absorbed into our diets and bodies,” he said.

The Guardian notes that researchers found plastic particles in all 24 German beer brands they tested in a 2014 study, and in Paris, other researchers found microplastic falling from the air in 2015.

In a world where more than 400 million metric tons of new plastic is made each year (and only a small fraction is recycled) the waste has to end up somewhere. Apparently, some of it ends up in us.

[Oz.]

(07-26-2017 09:05 PM)redbeard Wrote:  

After three weeks of using a Berkey I am officially a water snob.

Buy one of these. It's fucking delicious.

Same bro. I just got mine two days ago, very happy with the purchase.

[fiasco360]

I use the Costco water service.

I used a TDS meter to test the water and it was 6 ppm which is really good. My shower and sink water for reference are about 90-100 ppm.

[Selembao]

I travel a lot to third world countries. I'm looking for an alternative to mineral water in estrogene leaking plastic bottles.
Imported water in glass bottles is not widely available and usually five times more expensive.
Until now, I didn't consider using a portable Berkey filter. Whenever I go to a restaurant, all they have is water in those plastic bottles.
What do you drink when you travel abroad?