Posts: 1,922
Threads: 0
Joined: Dec 2015
Reputation:
48
A mistake I'm sick of making
03-20-2016, 11:50 PM
I was over at my FB's place tonight, that I met through online dating. She made me dinner (delicious!) and fixed me some drinks. She likes it a little rough, and I threw it down the way she likes it. But there was something on my mind.
So I've got a few drinks in me, and I need to get it off my chest.
I've made this mistake three times now. I go out on a date with a girl who is a "7" or above. I escalate and things go well, but I get a lot of LMR and don't end up fucking her. As I'm headed home she texts me "I had a great time tonight!" "It was wonderful meeting you!" "Thanks so much, text me anytime, looking forward to seeing you again" Blah blah.
I think it's in the bag. It's gonna be great the next time we meet up. I text her the next afternoon and pitch the second date.
And...nothing. Hours, days go by. And then I make the mistake. Ambiguity and thirst get the better of me, and I send the second text that, while put a lot more mildly than this, basically means "um, WTF?"
And they are on that one like a shot. They'll ignore my first text for days, but they see that one and they're firing off a reply in 3.4 minutes. And all three times the reply starts with variations on the same phrase:
"I'm sorry I didn't get back to you." "I was meaning to get back to you." I know what these words mean now - they mean you're dead. You're thirsty. You like her more than she likes you. You couldn't keep your fingers still and wait for Her Highness to deem you worthy of a reply. You didn't shut up and wait for a week to go by, then hit her with a "restart" to give the impression you didn't give a fuck about her. You're low value.
This seems a peculiar pathology of girls who are more attractive than average, whom I escalate hard with on the first date, but don't end up banging. I haven't been at this too long, and I suppose the sensitive side of me just keeps wishing that when two people get together and seem to like each other they could just behave like "normal" human beings and text each other back and forth the next day "Yeah! That was fun. Let's get together again on Thursday."
It's apparently too much to ask. And the idea that a date that doesn't end in sex is somehow worthless, or maybe even my fault (as one girl said) for escalating too hard "without trying to get to know me better" is fucked up. When I know that if I hadn't attempted to escalate, that one would have gone home and said "Yeah, well he seemed cool but I just didn't feel any romantic connection, bye bye."
Frankly, it makes me feel a little dirty. These girls are damaged. Letting a guy come within 2 inches of banging them, grinding your dick on their crotch, and then pretending they don't even know the motherfucker.
I guess for the time being I'll just bang my kinky "6". At least she knows how to fucking cook, texted me back right away after the first date, and doesn't give me a lot ambiguous BS. And I'll try to decide whether laying "hot" girls on the second date instead of the first, whenever they decide that their little thirst-detectometer has expired, if and when they decide to get back to me, is worth it.
Thanks for reading, that is all.
Posts: 2,521
Threads: 0
Joined: Mar 2015
Reputation:
53
A mistake I'm sick of making
03-21-2016, 12:37 AM
Quote:Quote:
I think it's in the bag. It's gonna be great the next time we meet up. I text her the next afternoon and pitch the second date.
This would appear to be where you're making the mistake.
"Does PUA say that I just need to get to f-close base first here and some weird chemicals will be released in her brain to make her a better person?"
-Wonitis
Posts: 116
Threads: 0
Joined: Feb 2016
A mistake I'm sick of making
03-21-2016, 12:41 AM
It doesn't sound like you're asking for advice, so I won't offer any.
But I will say that you've seemed to have figured things out on your own.
Yes, these girls are damaged.
Yes, if you don't bang on date 1, your odds of fucking her ever decrease by 80%.
It sucks, but that's the way it is in America right now. If I were you, I'd work on obtaining a location independent source of income and take a trip somewhere else. Search through the forum to find a destination that sounds appealing, then move overseas.
Posts: 934
Threads: 0
Joined: Jan 2016
Reputation:
23
A mistake I'm sick of making
03-21-2016, 12:44 AM
In my experience, nothing good has ever come from a girl who took over a day to respond to a text. They're full of shit that they "meant to get back to you." Have you ever taken days to get back to a girl you really liked and wanted to see again? Most girls can't stand to be called out and feel the need to justify their actions when they know they've done wrong, that's why they're feeding you those bullshit lines. Don't believe for a second that waiting a week and texting again would've accomplished anything worthwhile.
Posts: 1,587
Threads: 0
Joined: Oct 2014
Reputation:
48
A mistake I'm sick of making
03-21-2016, 12:54 AM
"Meant to get back to you" while sending a text takes between 5 and 10 seconds. BS.
After losing a LMR battle, you shouldn't be chasing her. You should just have kicked her out. I do this often ("put out or get out"), and when she's standing in the doorframe, seeing the night and realizing that she needs to walk alone to get a taxi, she suddently realizes that she needs to put out. Now this may seem mean, but if you are already not a virgin, you come alone to my place in the evening, we have drinks, you come in my bedroom, but stop me there, you kinda deserve it.
You know what I mean: the girl made you lose a LMR battle, she disrespected you. You shouldn't push too soon for a date. You appeared needy, and this scared the cat.
Normally, in such a situation, I'd advise you to wait for her to text first (a "I had a good time tonight" text doesn't even deserve a reply. If you're using an app with the "seen" feature like FB or Line, make sure the "seen" shows, but no reply). Let her know that you didn't appreciate that.
By appearing needy after losing a LMR battle, you shown her that withholding sex in your bedroom is acceptable for you, and this can be a one-way ticket to the friendzone.
Posts: 116
Threads: 0
Joined: Feb 2016
A mistake I'm sick of making
03-21-2016, 01:21 AM
Quote: (03-21-2016 01:06 AM)XPQ22 Wrote:
Quote: (03-21-2016 12:54 AM)Rawmeo Wrote:
You know what I mean: the girl made you lose a LMR battle, she disrespected you. You shouldn't push too soon for a date. You appeared needy, and this scared the cat.
Well, sex didn't happen. But I did nut on her face after a BJ, and she begged me to do it. It wasn't a bang, exactly, but...
http://www.rooshv.com/dont-shed-a-single...you-banged
But the "victory" feels hollow.
My lay count since the summer is up to...6.5 then, I guess. End of September, actually, that's when I got my first lay after getting back into things.
I know some will disagree with me, but personally, a GOOD blowjob is just as good, and sometimes better---than sex.
After you lay a decent amount of women (it varies from person to person) you stop needing the validation that comes from getting laid. It becomes something you need solely for the physical release, and occasionally, the emotional connection, however shallow it may be.
In my book, a blowjob isn't a loss. But that's me.
Posts: 1,364
Threads: 0
Joined: Oct 2013
Reputation:
34
A mistake I'm sick of making
03-21-2016, 09:25 AM
It's never in the bag unless you're in - meaning 'in', literally. Otherwise, it's a promise only.
____________________
My
Adventures in Game updates on the go:
twits by Max Detrick
Unbowed. Unbent. Unbroken.
I don’t ever give up. I mean, I’d have to be dead or completely incapacitated.
-- Elon Musk
Posts: 2,521
Threads: 0
Joined: Mar 2015
Reputation:
53
A mistake I'm sick of making
03-21-2016, 10:44 AM
Quote:Quote:
Yup. It's certainly frustrating that all the thought and reading and planning seems to crumble when one manages to finally pull a really good looking, intelligent girl where the feeling appears mutual.
You're defeating yourself by putting them on a pedestal like that. You gotta learn to devalue these chicks in your mind; relegate them to at most a pump and dump. It goes a long way to keeping those "feelings" in check.
"Does PUA say that I just need to get to f-close base first here and some weird chemicals will be released in her brain to make her a better person?"
-Wonitis
Posts: 80
Threads: 0
Joined: Jan 2016
Reputation:
3
A mistake I'm sick of making
03-21-2016, 11:23 AM
So you got this 8 over on a first date, she blew you to completion, begged you to nut all over her face to which you obliged, and during the process you began to develop strong feelings towards this woman? Am I getting this right?
Posts: 17
Threads: 0
Joined: Oct 2015
Reputation:
0
A mistake I'm sick of making
03-21-2016, 03:21 PM
Another way to look at girls delaying their response text back to you is that you are doing your job right.
You escalated enough that they know you are going to fuck them next time you two meet. Therefore, they are waiting until they are horny enough to come get it. That might be days or weeks or months in the future, depending on how much of sex fiend the girl is and/or where she is at in her cycle.
You are a guilty pleasure to them, not a boyfriend they have to respond to immediately.
Posts: 2,521
Threads: 0
Joined: Mar 2015
Reputation:
53
A mistake I'm sick of making
03-21-2016, 04:02 PM
Quote: (03-21-2016 03:21 PM)NorthernLights Wrote:
Another way to look at girls delaying their response text back to you is that you are doing your job right.
You escalated enough that they know you are going to fuck them next time you two meet. Therefore, they are waiting until they are horny enough to come get it. That might be days or weeks or months in the future, depending on how much of sex fiend the girl is and/or where she is at in her cycle.
You are a guilty pleasure to them, not a boyfriend they have to respond to immediately.
Not really buying either point. Are we really supposed to believe that these gadget-addicted sluts are "too busy" to text back because she's
interested? Doesn't make a whole lot of sense. They're too busy alright...texting someone else.
As far as your point about them "knowing" that the next time you will bang them and that they wait until their horny... Women never think this rationally.
"Does PUA say that I just need to get to f-close base first here and some weird chemicals will be released in her brain to make her a better person?"
-Wonitis
Posts: 116
Threads: 0
Joined: Feb 2016
A mistake I'm sick of making
03-21-2016, 09:13 PM
Quote: (03-21-2016 02:55 PM)XPQ22 Wrote:
Quote: (03-21-2016 11:23 AM)Mr. Pink Wrote:
So you got this 8 over on a first date, she blew you to completion, begged you to nut all over her face to which you obliged, and during the process you began to develop strong feelings towards this woman? Am I getting this right?
Guess I'm just a softie at heart. I think I'm still traumatized by some of the trainwreck dates I've been on since I've started online game.
Anyway, she texted me unsolicited today and told me she didn't want to get together again. And while she didn't say this explicitly, the reason that was implied is that yeah, she was cheating.
It makes me feel slightly better, maybe, knowing that what I wanted probably wasn't really on the table to begin with.
I didn't realize you had "caught feelings".
Yeah, that needs to be nipped in the butt now.
I thought you were dismayed about the state of women in GENERAL, which is why I was saying, yeah, you're correct, it sucks.
Don't catch feelings for women you're banging. 99% of the time, you're just a toy for them.
Recommended reading: Pimpology The 48 Laws Of Game.
Posts: 782
Threads: 0
Joined: Apr 2015
Reputation:
57
A mistake I'm sick of making
03-21-2016, 10:09 PM
Hwuz- wouldn't that be Roissy though? I always liked the commandments as well as The Book of Pook.
Posts: 4,649
Threads: 0
Joined: Feb 2013
Reputation:
107
A mistake I'm sick of making
03-21-2016, 11:14 PM
Guys that fight the number system I will never get.
The differences between 6's and 7's in the level of game needed is vast.
Same with age of brackets.
You are showing these 7's too much interest.
You are too easy to win so they know you are below them.
I think guys like the idea of a fall back fuck buddy but it stifles game.
If you want higher quality I'd drop the 6 and only go after the hotter ones so you get more experience.
Not having that easy fuck buddy will get you going.
SENS Foundation - help stop age-related diseases
Quote: (05-19-2016 12:01 PM)Giovonny Wrote:
If I talk to 100 19 year old girls, at least one of them is getting fucked!
Quote:WestIndianArchie Wrote:
Am I reacting to her? No pussy, all problems
Or
Is she reacting to me? All pussy, no problems