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Anti-Social People
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Anti-Social People

I meet one of my new neighbors for the first time in front of her steps. Only met the last ones twice. "It seems like it's hard to get to know the people around here," I say. "The neighbors never come outside." "Yeah, I know. Doesn't that suck?", she says.

A few days later I see her again in her backyard, this time with a fellow roommate. I approach and try to start a little conversation. It's awkward from the beginning. The girls say little. I tell them that we should have a cross-house party this weekend so we can all hang out and get to know each other. Why don't they give me their number so we can coordinate? The one makes a dash for the house to avoid having to commit to talking to me again. The other, probably out of pity, offers me hers. I text a joke to her a few days later. No response.

I hadn't seen my roommate in a few days. I decide to go upstairs and see him after I make my dinner. I had to work that night, but I wanted to take an hour to see how school was going with him. I wanted someone to approve of the new Indian dish I made. A conversation never starts. He bitches about school and asks if I want to watch TV. I don't watch TV. He turns it on anyway. Hulk Hogan's ex-wife wrote a new book recently. Great. My roommate proceeds to take a call from a girlfriend who is living abroad, one he speaks to all the time. He tries my dish. It's alright. He doesn't speak to me for the remainder of the time I'm in his room. I leave. He doesn't say goodbye.

I approach a few girls in the supermarket today. I say some random things about the music in the store. Ask if they've tried different ways of food preparation. I get one-word responses, strange looks, and nervous smiles that make me feel like I'm some sort of criminal. One turns her back on me within a few seconds. I walk home.

On the way into my room I see my roommate's door open. I hear what sounds like Starcraft 2.

I don't even bother.
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#2

Anti-Social People

I wonder where in the world you live!
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#3

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I grew up with the attitude of not talking unless you have something worth saying. I would rather sit back and observe the party rather than try to be the life of the party. I inherently prefer solitude but there is a difference between being quiet and being rude. Some people don't understand that difference.
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Quote: (07-11-2011 07:48 PM)CupCake Wrote:  

I approach a few girls in the supermarket today. I say some random things about the music in the store. Ask if they've tried different ways of food preparation. I get one-word responses, strange looks, and nervous smiles that make me feel like I'm some sort of criminal. One turns her back on me within a few seconds. I walk home.

@cupcake: Nice (though depressing) vignette. Welcome to the world of smart phones and facebook. These media have been around long enough that a sizeable portion of the populace now don't know--and have never really known--how interact with a person they don't already know, unless they're a few lines of text and an avatar on a screen.

I find that today's technology drones go into one of two major camps:

1. Fundamentally friendly, but simple-minded types.
It's easy to get their attention but hard to keep it. You have to keep your jokes simple and mainstream for them to "get it." Can barely communicate original, intelligent ideas, resorting to sounds and repeated lines from television (e.g., screaming "Wooo!" when they get excited about something).

2. Socially awkward, suspicious types.
Don't want to interact with someone who isn't on their "friends' list" or on their friends' friends' list. Every social interaction has to be vetted so they feel safe, because outsiders and new experiences scare them. What's worse--and probably as a result--they have little in way of social skills. They interact in person like shy children: with short statements, while avoiding eye contact and "hiding behind an adult's leg."

I have all sorts of little social cheats and tricks for working within these disheartening realities when it comes to hollering at chicks. It's all we can do, besides occasional venting with like-minded guys in threads like this.

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One idea is from Mystery's brilliant idea of qualifying-- the girls you met in the yard, you needed to ask them something about themselves and show you're interested in that aspect- WHO THEY ARE as individuals- rather than just ask them to hang out for no particular reason. In Amerikan social climber, paranoid culture CSI episodes hamster-wheel through their brains anD the morons can't envision meeting someone interesting whom they haven't already seen on TV.

You see, they feel SPECIAL and don't want to hang out with just ANYBODY.

It can be really simple, once I simply walked up to (daygame) a girl with nice, elegant wool clothes on-- "You're just so stylish I wanted to talk to you and get your number" she was pulling out something to write with when she mentioned a "relationship" (a BS one, she was 30+ no ring== "boyfriends" are just guys who won't make a commitment) and I backed off stupidly.

But the principle remains-- she wants to be valued for something besides being a chick.

Otherwise, she's just putting out for a guy who's horny, for whom she's not SPECIAL and is therefore a slut.

Incredibly agile, instant, and automated self-deception is a skill any 7 year old girl can surpass any man at.

It is HELPFUL TO YOUR ENDS. They sincerely want to believe your bullshit--it is MUCH more palatable than believing she's a SLUT who would hugely get off on being used by any guy, or better yet sold into a harem and being used by a billionaire sheikh.

She is very willing to believe any excuse why you like her for some accomplishment, since they're lonely too.
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I was at the grocery store one time, and there was this woman maybe half a meter standing away from me in the ice cream aisle. I wanted to ask her what type of ice cream was good, but I had to call her maybe 2 or 3 times before she turned towards me. It was like she was trying to ignore me on purpose. I asked which ice cream was good, but she just replied that she buys whatever her children's favorite flavor is, took out the ice cream, and walked away. I'm beginning to realize that Americans are some of the most anti-social people in the world.

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The only thing that works on these types of girls is asshole game.

I've experimented rigorously... but when you've got that type of girl/woman/person who is suspicious of you right from the get go, it is usually a case of a bloated ego believing that "other" human beings do not deserve to talk to them or have their attention.


Being a complete dickface works well on these kinds of people, because it brings them back to reality. It reminds them of their unimportance, and counter-intuitively, makes them more receptive to you afterwards.

You didn't post much convo, but let's look at this one:

"It seems like it's hard to get to know the people around here," I say. "The neighbors never come outside."
"Yeah, I know. Doesn't that suck?", she says.

Asshole reply: "I wouldn't know if it sucks. It's hard to judge ghosts."


Another example.

You see them outside.

Asshole opener: "Wow, you're outside. How'd you overcome your lethargy?"


And when you treat them like shit, don't expect a response. You're just treating them like shit for the sake of treating them like shit, with the possible hope that they may feel insecure enough to talk to you. Enjoy your neighbors.

Personally, I hate being an cocksmack. But living in Boston really helps me nail this one down. Although since Roissy writes about this a lot, I'm sure being an asshole is necessary in many (most?) parts of America.

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Quote: (07-11-2011 10:55 PM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  

2. Socially awkward, suspicious types.
Don't want to interact with someone who isn't on their "friends' list" or on their friends' friends' list. Every social interaction has to be vetted so they feel safe, because outsiders and new experiences scare them. What's worse--and probably as a result--they have little in way of social skills. They interact in person like shy children: with short statements, while avoiding eye contact and "hiding behind an adult's leg."

I think you definitely nailed it on the head here. I often feel like I'm talking to children when I approach. It's a tough situation to be in. I mean, I want to talk to them like an adult but it feels like I HAVE to belittle them with childish nonsense. I feel like I'm insulting theirintelligence. I can never seem to get over this.
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Quote: (07-12-2011 02:34 AM)iknowexactly Wrote:  

One idea is from Mystery's brilliant idea of qualifying-- the girls you met in the yard, you needed to ask them something about themselves and show you're interested in that aspect- WHO THEY ARE as individuals- rather than just ask them to hang out for no particular reason.

You see, they feel SPECIAL and don't want to hang out with just ANYBODY.

But the principle remains-- she wants to be valued for something besides being a chick.

Otherwise, she's just putting out for a guy who's horny, for whom she's not SPECIAL and is therefore a slut.

Wow, thanks for this comment. This is a real eye-opener for me. I've been thinking this one over after the past couple approaches I've made. This is a game-changer.
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