[redbeard]

(11-14-2017 10:55 AM)heavy Wrote:  

(11-14-2017 10:44 AM)casa-nostra Wrote:  

(11-14-2017 10:31 AM)heavy Wrote:  

'tine powder. I only recently started taking Creatine.

Damn, I took some yesterday about an hour before upper body workout. It's awesome. I could lift all day long with it.

Sore today, feels good. Why do I need anything but 'tine?

Thats weird , Creatine did nothing special for me.

I think it depends on persons

I never deny variety when it comes to physiology, but creatine will scientifically increase your performance regardless of your genetics. It's a natural compound that you can also get from eating red meat.

Your anaerobic energy (weightlifting) comes from ATP in your skeletal muscles. Creatine, again occurring naturally in your skeletal muscles, converst used up ADP back to ATP for more anaerobic energy.

I've taken creatine and it's done nothing for me.

I also eat a fuck ton of red meat so there's that.

[realologist]

Creatine helps me not on a work out-to-work out basis but more long term. Once I included it I was able to match or beat previous PRs at decently lighter weight when before I wasn't all that close to touching them.

For the most part any pre workout works well for me but I always have to half or quarter the recommended dose because in sensitive to caffeine.

[casa-nostra]

(11-14-2017 10:55 AM)heavy Wrote:  

(11-14-2017 10:44 AM)casa-nostra Wrote:  

(11-14-2017 10:31 AM)heavy Wrote:  

'tine powder. I only recently started taking Creatine.

Damn, I took some yesterday about an hour before upper body workout. It's awesome. I could lift all day long with it.

Sore today, feels good. Why do I need anything but 'tine?

Thats weird , Creatine did nothing special for me.

I think it depends on persons

I never deny variety when it comes to physiology, but creatine will scientifically increase your performance regardless of your genetics. It's a natural compound that you can also get from eating red meat.

Your anaerobic energy (weightlifting) comes from ATP in your skeletal muscles. Creatine, again occurring naturally in your skeletal muscles, converst used up ADP back to ATP for more anaerobic energy.

maybe i drink it in the wrong moment though , usually i take it just before workout with whey protein.

I also read that creatine just add water weight to look more big for a moment thats it , many people complains about ED problems too.

[Steelex]

Creatine increases water storage within the muscle. Muscles are up to 60% water anyway. It also increases muscular endurance during high intensity training. So does salt, and carbohydrates.

Were not talking a huge increase here. Many people don't ever push themselves hard enough to even see the benefit of creatine.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, the only thing that will give you really quick and noticeable results are steroids. Everything else is just another small element that contributes to the bigger picture over the long haul i.e 1+ years. The difference in overall lean muscle gains over a year using creatine VS no creatine might be 1-2 lbs.

[Plus Oultre]

(11-14-2017 01:24 PM)Steelex Wrote:  

Creatine increases water storage within the muscle. Muscles are up to 60% water anyway. It also increases muscular endurance during high intensity training. So does salt, and carbohydrates.

Were not talking a huge increase here. Many people don't ever push themselves hard enough to even see the benefit of creatine.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, the only thing that will give you really quick and noticeable results are steroids. Everything else is just another small element that contributes to the bigger picture over the long haul i.e 1+ years. The difference in overall lean muscle gains over a year using creatine VS no creatine might be 1-2 lbs.

Nothing that two dozen of chocolate chip cookies every couple of weeks can't give you ... and I much prefer the cookies.

[Steelex]

Pretty much. Creatine is cheaper than multi vitamins honestly and you just throw a spoon a day into your protein shake.

I don't feel it's much of a benefit to me unless I'm dieting and I'm trying to keep my training intensity up.

[Sonoma]

I use preworkouts to push out my turds

[Ivanis]

If it wasn't already mentioned, Dymatize is the best in my opinion.

I've used Jack3d, C4, Optimum nutrition, Outlift Amped(close second to dymatize), and a bunch of other samples.

Fair warning, Dymatize and Outlift are Stim-bombs and a half. But damn they work.

[bucky]

(11-14-2017 02:58 PM)Plus Oultre Wrote:  

(11-14-2017 01:24 PM)Steelex Wrote:  

Creatine increases water storage within the muscle. Muscles are up to 60% water anyway. It also increases muscular endurance during high intensity training. So does salt, and carbohydrates.

Were not talking a huge increase here. Many people don't ever push themselves hard enough to even see the benefit of creatine.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, the only thing that will give you really quick and noticeable results are steroids. Everything else is just another small element that contributes to the bigger picture over the long haul i.e 1+ years. The difference in overall lean muscle gains over a year using creatine VS no creatine might be 1-2 lbs.

Nothing that two dozen of chocolate chip cookies every couple of weeks can't give you ... and I much prefer the cookies.

I find that I can do a few more pull-ups, bench press a few more pounds, and feel less sore when I'm using creatine. It's not particularly expensive, so it's worth it to me.

[hoops330]

Really big fan of the Performix line of pre workout. Great flavors and mixability, but most importantly I don't get the low blood pressure and crash that I would get from C4 and some of the other popular ones.

[Kizman]

Total War by Redcon1 and Dust Extreme by BSL have been on my rotation the last few weeks since I got back into lifting. Really annoyed that they banned them here in Australia recently because of the DMHA ban (very similar to Dmaa). How long should I cycle on and off PWO's?

[blck]

Nobody actually thought about WorkOut Powder this way ?
Have to get those gainz !

[JackinMelbourne]

APS Mesomorph (with DMAA, you can still find it online). I occasionally used it as a pre-going out when feeling flat or withdrawn too. Powerful porn star cum shots are a nice side effect.

When I couldn't find the real Mesomorph for a few years, I got onto Beta-Alanine. Does the job nicely and also removes short term fatigue so you can go a little harder.

I never use this stuff long term or for every session. Listen to your body, you don't need this shit but it's great when you feel like using it.

If you're just tired, do a cold shower/bath submersion or do a 5 minute run. It will pump blood and oxygen around your body and you'll have a great session naturally with no crash or chemical imbalance.

[fktax]

Does anyone have a favorite sugar/bullshit-free pre-workout?

I don't need it flavored, I'm happy with some bad taste to get the job done.

I found one called "Purepump" that seems really clean but it's not in stock anywhere. I don't know if they even make it anymore.

[HTRebel]

(02-27-2019 11:31 AM)fktax Wrote:  

Does anyone have a favorite sugar/bullshit-free pre-workout?

I don't need it flavored, I'm happy with some bad taste to get the job done.

I found one called "Purepump" that seems really clean but it's not in stock anywhere. I don't know if they even make it anymore.

Pretty much all of the "hardcore" ones are pumped with sugar, caffiene, and other shit. I would say black coffee is the best no-bullshit preworkout. If you wanna get that buzz on with all the chemicals, like the bodybuilders, then check out anything by Blackstone labs.

[chickenadobo]

I used to take Vega Sport Pre-Workout. I'm not vegan but I like it and it works for me, most people don't like the taste, I don't mind it personally... but now I just drink black coffee.

[benopolis]

I take caffeine pills these days before a workout. Used to drink coffee beforehand but it messed with my stomach too much

Caffeine tolerance is a bitch though.

[HD668B]

Actually surprised nobody mentioned this:

https://www.bodybuilding.com/store/cobra...ipper.html

I am not a prework-out connoisseur, but the tingling sensation you get with this is legit.

[Jetset]

(02-27-2019 11:31 AM)fktax Wrote:  

Does anyone have a favorite sugar/bullshit-free pre-workout?

I don't need it flavored, I'm happy with some bad taste to get the job done.

I don't know enough about preworkouts to say what constitutes "bullshit-free", but I got a free sample of Bodybuilding.com's Signature product. It tasted fine and the ingredients make sense to me. I also didn't want to stop after finishing my entire push and pull routines in one go.

[JayMillz]

Found the perfect preworkout for you political chaps

   

[ìlikegirls]

Right now i’m taking:

5 gr creatine
2,5 gr of Citrulline malate
3 gr beta alanine
1,5 gr HMB

I take the same cocktail after a workout with a meal.

You can take stimulant like ginseng, caffeine, and stuff like that. I avoid them because I can’t tolerate them well.

I avoid preworkout supplements since they cost more than buying beta Alanine and creatine alone. They often contain too small quantities of these things, not the right dosages used in studies. Then they are filled with chemical stuff like suclarose, colorants, additives bad for health.

[ìlikegirls]

Right now i’m taking:

5 gr creatine
2,5 gr of Citrulline malate
3 gr beta alanine
1,5 gr HMB

I take the same cocktail after a workout with a meal.

You can take stimulant like ginseng, caffeine, and stuff like that. I avoid them because I can’t tolerate them well.

I avoid preworkout supplements since they cost more than buying beta Alanine and creatine alone. They often contain too small quantities of these things, not the right dosages used in studies. Then they are filled with chemical stuff like suclarose, colorants, additives bad for health.

[Dr Mantis Toboggan]

Been using C4 but just got a nice blender and want to experiment with making my own. Planning on mixing up some fruit with 100mg caffeine, a couple teaspoons of matcha green tea powder (another 50mg or so caffeine), 3 gr beta alanine, and a scoop of vanilla protein powder. No creatine as I'm trying to drop another 15-20 lbs. Will report back on how it goes.

[bside]

I've used 1MR, SuperPump, Jack3d, C4, No-Xplode, COMBAT, Mr. Hyde, The Curse.
But this one is one of my favorites.

[ìlikegirls]

Why no creatine?

Creatine will help you for body composition. If you want to drop weight you want to keep muscles and burn fat.

If you want to drop weight avoid fruit.