[liberlandio]

(02-28-2016 05:30 AM)Svoboda Wrote:  

I'd say anywhere in in those countries except Bali, Jakarta and manado you'd be considered a good catch.... Manado is a Christian area, won't be worth the hassle.

What's the problem with Manado being Christian? He hasn't mentioned he's Muslim, he just said he looks middle eastern.

Or do you mean Christian girls in Manado are just too conservative?

[Easy_C]

Same as everwhere else. I couple of my good friends are of Middle Eastern descent and coupled with staying in good shape they don't have a problem. If anything it is somewhat of an advantage because you look closer to the tanned male beauty idea that comes out of Hoollywood without having to actually tan.

[Cad and Bounder]

With respect, asking a non-middle eastern guy (assume in appearance) what's it's truly like to game certain places for a middle eastern guy is a bit like asking a girl for advice on picking up girls. If you've never done it then it's very hard to take your opinion seriously.

Just blithely pretending that there isn't a difference is great if you want to keep up a relentlessly positive 'can do' vibe, but then again this isn't a forum for psychological support.

The answer to the OP is tricky. Yes, the 'ME' guy is going to be relatively better positioned with Muslim girls, from say Turkey, Albania, or Iran (also think diaspora), or the 'stans, but it still may be optimal for him to go to, say Poland, where his ethnic disadvantage is offset by better overall conditions for everyone.

The most important piece of advice is to just accept that this is the way it is, and don't get down about the ethnic disadvantage it or it will come across in your approaches.if she asks then make it clear. After all, she has a right to know, and if you don't tell her upfront then you will only waste your time and money in future.

[BostonBMW]

I've done well here in the U.S.

[Beirut]

Yeah one of the reasons i love the US is that it seems its a total non factor there. I can't remember any interaction with a woman there where my background had any effect, and ive spent a lot of time there. Only in major cities though.

The FSU is a different story. Past few days alone i had several girls totally shut down after very positive initial reactions once they learned my background.

[Gent001]

(08-19-2016 11:28 AM)Beirut Wrote:  

Yeah one of the reasons i love the US is that it seems its a total non factor there. I can't remember any interaction with a woman there where my background had any effect, and ive spent a lot of time there. Only in major cities though.

The FSU is a different story. Past few days alone i had several girls totally shut down after very positive initial reactions once they learned my background.

What major cities did you have your successes?

[Beirut]

Ive mostly spent time in vegas and Washington dc. Also cleveland and houston. None of these were game trips but like i said my background was never an issue in any of the places.

[a beer is enough]

After reading a lot of threads like these, I am almost grateful that I don't travel much internationally and stick with the United States!

I am not Middle Eastern but I am South Asian, depending on the type of Middle Eastern we are talking about I think there can be some mixup as much as I hate to admit it myself. At times I have been with women who thought I was Middle Eastern or at least put South Asians and Middle Eastern people in the same boat, seems to be an American thing though.

What I will say is that I have seen attractive women from the following sub-groups go for Middle Eastern guys in the US. The key here is that you have to be culturally assimilated into western culture so you can't be a FOB.

White women from small towns and more reserved upbringings, especially if these are more conservative areas.

I have found that white girls from midwestern small towns and more conservative states tend to not have too much of a bad view of Middle Eastern or ethnic guys. I've seen a few who were genuinely curious about a Middle Eastern guy or found some they knew in real life sexy. Definitely a group worth gaming and if you're a well put together ME guy, take a trip to the really white cities like Boise or Minneapolis. A lot of these women seem to be genuinely curious about a well put together brown guy, keyword being well put together.

Its weird how it works, the liberal left wing big city white girl hates Middle Eastern guys because feminism teaches her how evil that part of the world is while her conservative sister judges you as an individual.

Southern white girls.

The only exception here are white women from the Atlanta area (for various reasons worth their own thread) but other than that, I think that there is something going on. At first I would think that southerners would hate Middle Eastern people for all the politics that go on but I find that there seems to be somewhat of an affinity there. My thoughts are that because a lot of Middle Eastern people look somewhat white, with some being white, southerners tend to warm up to them compared to darker minorities. I have known Middle Eastern guys who cleaned up with girls from the SEC, definitely worth it to spend time in southern cities with the exception of Atlanta.

Black girls.

I have found that black women are more than open to going for guys with a lighter skin tone than them. Of all the races out there, I have seen Black American women hit on men the most aggressively and they absolutely have a thing for almost all non-black minorities. Now I get that most guys do not have a thing for black girls but if you are not too picky about your tastes or type, black women are definitely interested.

As for some game advice, try to stay away from crowds and places that are too absorbed in urban culture and trying to be "hip".

I find that Middle Eastern guys struggle the most around the yuppie overly PC judgmental white crowds that act all morally self-righteous while only hanging around people like that.

Of all the groups, I would also avoid gaming whitewashed Middle Eastern girls. I used to think that Asian American women were bad with hating men of their own race but most whitewashed Middle Eastern girls I know absolutely hate their own guys and are vocal haters as well.

To a degree I have found that the more a crowd caters towards urban blacks and black culture, trying to pedestalize black guys and pander to them, the worse it is for Middle Eastern guys. It seems to be the case with a lot of European women who will readily suck some black dick to show the world they are not racist but then denounce "Muslims" (as in all brown people) as being pests.

[Newguy101]

Yes he also had a moroccan buddy he called in one article "king of warsaw" and he too was killing it.