[Ethan Hunt]

(03-28-2016 06:22 AM)Surreyman Wrote:  

@Britchard, a Clarkson campaign would be hilarious. Even better if he went against Corbyn.

As entertaining as that would be to watch I don't think Clarkson would have the stamina to run an election campaign. He's well known for being a heavy smoker and drinker which would ruin his chances. I do remember a few years ago a Facebook campaign going around called "Clarkson for PM" got a few hundred thousand followers and did little to inspire him to become a politician. If he cut back on smoking and alcohol he may even do it.

[NewMeta]

(03-30-2016 09:25 AM)Mr. D Wrote:  

And so, the scaremongering continues.

https://www.rt.com/uk/337650-project-fear-brexit-eu/
Project Fear: RT unravels the latest scare tactics to keep Britain in the EU

Brexit scaremongering is international. Spain has threatened to cut off access to Gibraltar if Britain quits the EU, essentially leaving it lonely and isolated under the belly of Europe. RT unpicks other recent doomsday predictions from Project Fear.

Should I stay or should I go? That is the question facing Brits on June 27, when a referendum will be held on the UK’s continued membership of the European Union.

Prime Minister David Cameron named the date for the vote last month following frantic negotiations with fellow EU leaders. Since then leaders from across the globe have made clear their opposition to Brexit, with many resorting to scare tactics.

For those who do not understand the severity of the Spain issue, it will basically destroy Gibraltar's economy, no import and export via road transport anymore. Shops will close from lack of supplies, which will start the chain reaction of killing off businesses that make business off of each other.

It has everyone there shitting bricks, it's not the first time the border was shut either, it was a practically a third world country during the first border closure. If it happens again all hell will break loose and the UK wont give 2 shits, they never have, they never will.

Funnily enough UKIP care plenty about Gibraltar but the news did such a great smear campaign on them that everyone there thinks UKIP are a bunch of racists and bigots. Morons.

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

What Spain is proposing is illegal. It's akin to the occupation of Gaza, how could a country possibly bar legal goods and travelers from crossing from/into Gibraltar? It has the right to enact border controls and/or charge tariffs, not to outright block their passage.

[NewMeta]

(03-30-2016 01:17 PM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  

What Spain is proposing is illegal. It's akin to the occupation of Gaza, how could a country possibly bar legal goods and travelers from crossing from/into Gibraltar? It has the right to enact border controls and/or charge tariffs, not to outright block their passage.

The idea is it forces Gibraltar's hand into finally allowing Spain to take over which is what they have always wanted, between occupation of Ceuta (a small territory they own opposite Gibraltar on the coast of Morocco) and Gibraltar they have full control of the trade route between Europe and Africa.

As it stands there is always conflict with Gibraltar owned waters vs Spanish owned waters. These days they just want it out of principle, the history between Gib and the Spanish is a messy one and they have always wanted it.

Funny thing is, they shut the borders they put a shit load of spanish people from poor communities like Algeciras and La Linea out of work. The Spanish communities near Gib tend to take alot of the minimum wage service industry jobs over there which due to the strength of the pound vs the euro and the lower tax rate is better than any other job they can get in the area.

I want UK to vote leave, but I do realize in doing so the family I have living in Gib right now will suffer a lot, tough choice for me but Id still vote leave and just have to hope for the best.

[Matsufubu]

Roosh is 100% correct; there's no way the political elite will allow it. Too much money to be lost by those that aren't willing to lose it. Even if by some miracle the public vote to leave it'll be used as a renegotiating tool by Cameron et al to 'get a better deal', then another vote will be offered with (publically) nicer terms, and the good British public will vote as they 'should' do.

This vote is an illusion of choice. If it were going to be considered a possibility many, many plans would have been made and explained. The fact that this hasn't happened shows that the powers that be know exactly what the outcome will be - true or not.

It will take mass suicide bombings and deadly attacks by Muslim terrorists in the coming years to cause any sort of cultural fightback from the British people, and by then voting to leave the EU will be essential.

[IronShark]

Donald Trump Thinks Britain Will Leave The EU | Good Morning Britain

[zigZag]

(03-16-2016 03:08 PM)IronShark Wrote:  

In case you didn't watch last night EU referendum debate @ Guardian Live, here is the full debate:

REMAIN side:
- Former deputy prime minister Nick Clegg,
- Head of the Labour Yes campaign Alan Johnson

LEAVE side
- Leader of the UK Independence Party Nigel Farage
- Conservative MP for South Northamptonshire ​​Andrea Leadsom

I actually watched that. Jesus have you brits got a MASSIVE inferiority complex.
OMG we are teh poor little country in the middle of some sea next to greenland. How can we survive on our own without the BIG EU and USA protecting us.

[H1N1]

(03-30-2016 07:11 PM)zigZag Wrote:  

(03-16-2016 03:08 PM)IronShark Wrote:  

In case you didn't watch last night EU referendum debate @ Guardian Live, here is the full debate:

REMAIN side:
- Former deputy prime minister Nick Clegg,
- Head of the Labour Yes campaign Alan Johnson

LEAVE side
- Leader of the UK Independence Party Nigel Farage
- Conservative MP for South Northamptonshire ​​Andrea Leadsom

I actually watched that. Jesus have you brits got a MASSIVE inferiority complex.
OMG we are teh poor little country in the middle of some sea next to greenland. How can we survive on our own without the BIG EU and USA protecting us.

I would suggest that those espousing the views you refer to are the leftists, the so-called 'cuckservatives', and the poorly educated.

I suspect I am not alone amongst Englishmen when I say that I take a pretty dim view of the 'special relationship'. Though I generally like Americans, and have no ill-will towards them individually, America as a nation has done tremendous damage to Britain's interests, and done so deliberately. Two pertinent examples from the last century would be the deliberate bankrupting of the British Empire, and the vocal support of, and supply of arms to, the IRA. Both of these things were tremendously damaging to the social and economic fabric of our nation, and from which we have not recovered.

Our relationship with America also encourages our politicians to try to suck up, embarrassingly, to the US, either by joining them as world police, or simply by publicly crawling for approval.

[IronShark]

Nigel Farage & Vernon Coaker - Northern Ireland EU Debate @ Ulster University 01/03/16

[Lizard King]

2 months to go and you wouldn't even know the referendum is going to happen.

It's getting very little media coverage.

The electorate are politically illiterate and have no understanding of what being in the EU means.

It means: giving up your currency, being subject to policies that you weren't consulted on(mass migration), having laws made for you by un-elected bureaucrats, etc, etc.

The EU needs Britain more than Britain needs the EU.

[Foolsgo1d]

Britain cannot stop cheap Chinese steel from being imported and we're led to believe this referendum will be fair. Its going to be an absolute farce.

[PeruLover12]

The scare tactics of the 'remain' camp are hilarious but probably having the desired affect on the unthinking masses here in the UK.

If you believed the remain camp's propaganda then if we leave the EU then Britain will become some kind of pariah state whose citizens will no longer be able to visit or work in the EU. Completely forgetting that other non-EU European citizens/countries do perfectly well without membership.

What is sinister is the blackmail EU member states ( especially France ) are putting on the British population. 'If you leave we will do this....' So much for believing in democracy and a man's right to choose his future.

[IronShark]

Cameron is spending £9m of British taxpayer money on his scaremongering campaign. This is a petition against it:

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/116762

[Mike5055]

Looks like people are calling for Cameron to resign over the Panama Papers. Wonder how or if this will affect the Brexit campaign?

[IronShark]

Look at these idiots. These lefties are picketing against an Eurosceptic event calling everyone racist. I used to think it's only Islam which is a race. Apparently EU is a race too!

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/04/...ne-racist/

[redpillage]

Just caught that in the Austrian 'Krone Zeitung' - After the defeat in Holland the Green leadership in the EU parliament is calling for ban of EU referendums in general as they may 'threaten to destabilize the European Union'.



Yeah, bitch - that pretty much was the plan to begin with.

[quino_16]

(04-08-2016 06:07 PM)redpillage Wrote:  

Just caught that in the Austrian 'Krone Zeitung' - After the defeat in Holland the Green leadership in the EU parliament is calling for ban of EU referendums in general as they may 'threaten to destabilize the European Union'.

[IronShark]

FT reporter had lunch with UKIP leader, Nigel Farage.

Although he focuses on Nigel's alcohol consumption; it still shows that Nigel, unlike many out of touch politicians, is an ordinary man. The conversation is good. Plus, Nigel didn't fall into any of the journalist's traps.

P.s they've been on a couple of pubs in central London. I'm going to hit them soon.

The interview link is below:

https://next.ft.com/content/864c3a96-fbf...0dca6d0a0d

[Leonard D Neubache]

The vote will be rigged for a slim Brexit loss.

Paltitudes will be rolled out. "We must honour the result, but rest assured, the Brexit voters have sent a message that we have received loud and clear, and we will fight for blah blah blah..."

Difficult to imagine that this little island once commanded an empire that spanned the globe.

[IronShark]

British comedian Andrew Laurence shared this photo on his facebook account:

https://www.facebook.com/andrewlawrencec...=3&theater

[Nineteen84]

Just got the pathetically desperate 'please let's stay in the EU ' government booklet in the post:

[Nineteen84]

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[Matsufubu]

Got this pamphlet today. It's utter fear mongering trash, full of half-truths and misplaced truths. It conveniently misses the fact that just because we're not part of the EU it doesn't mean that we can't trade with them.

Lazy shit but it'll probably work since most people are pretty thick.

[IronShark]

(04-11-2016 01:26 PM)Matsufubu Wrote:  

Got this pamphlet today. It's utter fear mongering trash, full of half-truths and misplaced truths. It conveniently misses the fact that just because we're not part of the EU it doesn't mean that we can't trade with them.

Lazy shit but it'll probably work since most people are pretty thick.

This is how wisely our £10m tax money is spent by cucked Tories.

[Lizard King]

(04-14-2016 03:36 AM)IronShark Wrote:  

(04-11-2016 01:26 PM)Matsufubu Wrote:  

Got this pamphlet today. It's utter fear mongering trash, full of half-truths and misplaced truths. It conveniently misses the fact that just because we're not part of the EU it doesn't mean that we can't trade with them.

Lazy shit but it'll probably work since most people are pretty thick.

This is how wisely our £10m tax money is spent by cucked Tories.

It's popular among the British middle class, particularly Gen X and younger, to be very critical of the Tories. I see it frequently on facebook, jokes about Cameron and how he should kill himself etc.

So this pamphlet is providing much humour for these types, yet that is as far as it goes: childish and pathetic jokes. None of them have stopped to think "If Cameron wants Britian to remain in the EU, what does that mean? Who does it benefit". All of the left leaning middle class types I mention will vote to remain, and give the elite what they want. All of them see the EU as some kind of 'human rights benefactor'. I don't have much hope I'm afraid.