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Duality of men and women
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Duality of men and women

Since there's a boatload of discussions on men and women, the differences between men and women, etc - I thought I'd offer my take.

I've noticed that most of the claims are actually false or overgeneralized, but that there's typically a duality, here's an example of some of my observations:

Extroversion

Men are more extroverted in terms of actions (ex. competition, assertiveness)

Women are more extroverted in terms of feelings (ex. sharing emotions)

Loyalty

Men are more loyal to their friends, but less loyal to their lovers

Women are more loyal to their lovers, but less loyal to their friends (I'm sure this will be controversial to some guys here but it's my general observation)

Monogamy

Men have a stronger desire to have sex with many partners, but are easier pleased by the partner they have

Women have less of a desire for multiple partners, but are more difficult to please by the partner they have

Attractiveness

Women are attracted to men who show assertive (alpha) behavior, or who have a strong physique (ex. things like posture moreso than just "looks")

Men are attracted to women who show submissive (nice) behavior, or who have a fertile physique (ex. a young and physically attractive body)

Digust

Men are more disgusted by weakness in character (ex. beta males)

Women are more disgusted by nasty things (ex. dirt, insects, etc)

Self-esteem

Men's self esteem comes from feeling competant (ex. picking up the hot girl at the club validates his sense of competancy; on the other hand men usually dislike being offered favors or 'free stuff')

Women's self esteem comes from feeling lovable (ex. women like it when guys buy them drinks because it makes them feel doted on and lovable, and it's less about the drink itself)

Organization

Men are more organized about goals and practical manners (ex. men are usually more frugal with their money than women)

Women are more organized about routines and day-to-day manners (ex. women are usually bigger on cleaning than men).

Achievement

Men measure their achievement more competitively, even males in nontraditional careers (ex. a male nurse) feel validated more by what they accomplished there specifically

Women measure their achievements more by their generosity or more emotionally, ex. even the bossy, career-minded feminists tend to measure their achievements by claiming it's about "female empowerment" or something with a more altruistic connotation

Implusiveness

Women are more likely to start emotional conflict or passive aggression (ex. starting arguments over petty issues)

Men are more likely to start physical conflict or direct verbal confrontation (ex. men's threshhold is usually a lot higher than women's but if it breaks he's more likely to escalate into a physical fight)

Metaphor

Men are more like the night and day

Women are more like the sunrise and sunset
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#2

Duality of men and women

Ill add one more to that.

Women tend to be indecisive and spend lots of time thinking about something.

Men take action.
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#3

Duality of men and women

Also relevant, I should've added this:

Women rely on their men for getting stuff done, but rely on their friends for emotional support (something the 'nice guys' don't get - if a woman is talking to you about her breakups with her exes she's not into you as a lover).

Men rely on their women for emotional support, but rely on their friends for getting stuff done. (Men rarely hang out with guys to discuss deep feelings, they hang out with guys when they want to do something, watch sports, play video games, go pick up hotties at the club, etc - guy friends are basically a hunting pack)
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Duality of men and women

I guess as a principle there are differences, but to be really honest these days I rarely find men who are supposed to behave like men.

The overwhelming majority of guys I know are very indecisive, very leftist, bitchy, indecisive, illogical, make decisions based on their emotions, have no plan in life, and are passive-aggressive.

I managed to surround myself with close-minded red pill men but otherwise I think most men act like women these day. So statements like "men take action" "men are responsible" don't sit right with me. I know guys who take absolutely no action for their life and who resort to playing victim all the time instead of admitting their fault.

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Duality of men and women

Quote: (01-27-2016 09:40 AM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  

I guess as a principle there are differences, but to be really honest these days I rarely find men who are supposed to behave like men.

The overwhelming majority of guys I know are very indecisive, very leftist, bitchy, indecisive, illogical, make decisions based on their emotions, have no plan in life, and are passive-aggressive.

I managed to surround myself with close-minded red pill men but otherwise I think most men act like women these day. So statements like "men take action" "men are responsible" don't sit right with me. I know guys who take absolutely no action for their life and who resort to playing victim all the time instead of admitting their fault.

I have to agree with you. Most men I know (especially at work) act just like you stated. I'm grateful to have a handful of lifelong red pill men (and this forum!) as shields against life's blue pill bullshit.

"When in chaos, speak truth." - Jordan Peterson
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Duality of men and women

Quote: (01-27-2016 09:40 AM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  

I guess as a principle there are differences, but to be really honest these days I rarely find men who are supposed to behave like men.

The overwhelming majority of guys I know are very indecisive, very leftist, bitchy, indecisive, illogical, make decisions based on their emotions, have no plan in life, and are passive-aggressive.

I managed to surround myself with close-minded red pill men but otherwise I think most men act like women these day. So statements like "men take action" "men are responsible" don't sit right with me. I know guys who take absolutely no action for their life and who resort to playing victim all the time instead of admitting their fault.
I think it's in guys nature, they just end up becoming repressed in the modern world - like a lion growing up in a zoo cage being pampered in human captivity rather than growing up in its natural habitat.
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Duality of men and women

Quote: (01-27-2016 09:46 AM)Kaii Wrote:  

Quote: (01-27-2016 09:40 AM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  

I guess as a principle there are differences, but to be really honest these days I rarely find men who are supposed to behave like men.

The overwhelming majority of guys I know are very indecisive, very leftist, bitchy, indecisive, illogical, make decisions based on their emotions, have no plan in life, and are passive-aggressive.

I managed to surround myself with close-minded red pill men but otherwise I think most men act like women these day. So statements like "men take action" "men are responsible" don't sit right with me. I know guys who take absolutely no action for their life and who resort to playing victim all the time instead of admitting their fault.

I have to agree with you. Most men I know (especially at work) act just like you stated. I'm grateful to have a handful of lifelong red pill men (and this forum!) as shields against life's blue pill bullshit.
I'm talking more about the internal nature of men than what they do in day to day life - most men in practice aren't alpha but this isn't their nature, it's just the result of repression.

There's a book called 'the way of men' by Jack Donovan I highly recommend reading; he basically describes how biologically men and women are pretty much the same as their earliest hunter-gather ancestors genetically, but modern civilization often ends up repressing men in particular.

For example: 300 years ago a man could settle a dispute with another man in a duel or confrontation, but today he has to worry about being taken to jail by the police or losing his job, so as a result he represses his anger and ends up acting more passive-aggressive, like a woman.

But women are still hardwired to find the 'alpha' characteristics of men attractive, and vice versa (ex. women who work in a man's industry have to act more assertive in order to be taken seriously, but guys are still hardwired to find feminine women attractive rather than the bitchy, bossy type).

Basically, the more industrialized and pampered a culture becomes, the more androgynous it becomes - because men don't need to act like men just to survive (ex. in today's world a man can go his whole life without ever getting in a fight, or work an easy desk job and never have to get physical, but in past eras where times were tougher men had to act a lot more like men just on a day to day basis - while modern society treats this behavior as unneeded or even punishable).
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