[spinaroonie]

Just started day game. The most challenging aspect is keeping the interaction going. Often times I'll open well, get the girl to stop, she'll answer my question, stare at me blankly, and I'll exit the interaction prematurely as I run out of things to say.

This is where a canned 5-minute routine stack can be a tremendous asset. This will be my training wheels until (with enough practice) I become a "natural". The beauty of this stack is that it's a scripted routine, it hits all the major attraction + comfort points helps in a short period of time, and it's very much NOT contingent on the answer of the girl.

I've used the routine stack below in night game with great success, though it's only about 1/3 of the entire stack. I'm interested in field testing it in day game. I've typed it up literally word for word. The objective is to practice it enough times (and crash and burn) until I can deliver/improvise it without sounding rehearsed. I'd like the input of the experienced day gamers here on how well it translates to day game.

Open, deliver stack, get digits, GTFO. In <10 min. By this point she's either into you or she's not, there's no sense in wasting time prolonging the interaction, Quit while you're ahead. Leave on a high note.

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"Excuse me. I know this sounds really random but are you good with relationship advice?"

"k I've only got a minute before I meet up with my friends. Say a girl goes out to a bar, has a few drinks, and makes out with a random guy. And say she has a boyfriend. Is that cheating?"

"What if it's another girl?"

"Well, the reason I ask is this actually happened to my friend Chris. He's been seeing this girl for 6 months, and she just told him that she goes out to clubs and makes out with random guys all the time. What do you think?"

"Well he doesn't know how to feel about it. On the one hand, he thinks it's hot. On the other hand, he feels he's being cheated on. Like if they're in a commited relationship she should be more faithful towards him."

"My opinion - I think he should sit down with her and figure out what their relationship means to them. If they establish the relationship as serious, it's not cool. If it's casual, I think it's fine. What do you think."

"Awesome. You give good relationship advice. You're like Dr. Phil. With more hair. What's your name btw?"

"I'm spinaroonie (props). Did anyone ever tell you that you have a C-shaped smile."

"Well my ex was a psych major at (local uni) and she was really into this pop psychology stuff. Anyhow, she told me about this article she read in Cosmo. Apparently there are two kinds of smiles - C smiles and U smiles. A C smile is when it's just a row of pearly whites at the front, like what you have. And a U smile is when your teeth go all the way back, kinda like a horse. And her theory was that people with C smiles are seen as more friendly than people with U smiles. And, she was so crazy about this that she flew down to LA and had her teeth surgically altered from a U to a C... Ya, like she wanted to be the next Lady Gaga or something."

"I'm a sucker for girls with nice smiles. So do you go to (local uni)?"

"Cool. What do you take?"

"Awesome. I used to go to (local uni). I graduated a couple years ago. I took (major). You probably have no clue what that is. I work at (local employer now) in finance. So what do you want to pursue as a career?"

"Awesome, smart girl. You seem pretty cool. I gotta go find my friends but we should keep in touch. Are you on Facebook?"

"Alright spell your name... you know what I won't remember that. Give me your number. (digits) Awesome. I'll give you a shout sometime. Take care."

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Feedback is appreciated.

[Sonsowey]

I think you should ditch that lame opinion opener and try to sound like a real person. Check out some videos on http://www.krauserpua.com for great direct day game.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjSIp47Fvk4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMG2yFrJB...r_embedded

Honestly those cheesy openers are why your interactions are going nowhere, they're unnatural and just weird.

[spinaroonie]

I #-closed last week by using the first half of this stack, then transitioning to a normal conversation and just vibing with the girls. Yes it sounds weird when it's all typed up like this but it seems to work - it only sounds premeditated from our end, not to them. The average young naive college coed won't figure it out.

The stack is a fallback when I can't think of anything off the top of my head, and seldom will the girl volunteer anything to keep the interaction in the first few minutes. Awkward silences are the worst, and often times it's me ejecting with the girl still lingering there.

[UrbanNerd]

I'll tell you what, college co-eds love older grad students.

You come to the campus early before your evening class and park you nice car outside, dressed in your business-casual work attire. I always loved the part when the college co-ed asked me which evening course am I taking....

Once I said "Computer Science 725"...the next thing I knew I was staring at a set of 10 digits...lol

[spinaroonie]

And I've seen Krauser's stuff and it's not too impressive. He targets young foreign girls who can barely speak English and his "game" is comprised of sad manipulations of none-too-wise foreign women who can’t see what local English/American women can. Show me Krauser scoring a hot local English woman and I’ll be doubly impressed. And no, I don't buy that "all western women are fat feminist pigs" tripe, a convenient excuse for men who have a hard time with the local lasses. Foreign women have a harder time spotting a loser due to cultural barriers.

Not that I dislike Eastern European/Asian women, but I’m stuck with the talent here across the pond.

[ezio]

Have you really experienced this frequently? I'm a med student (and a slightly older one at 32), and the undergrads couldn't be more disinterested.

(07-05-2011 12:20 AM)UrbanNerd Wrote:  

I'll tell you what, college co-eds love older grad students.

[Giovonny]

(07-04-2011 10:58 PM)spinaroonie Wrote:  

Just started day game. The most challenging aspect is keeping the interaction going. Often times I'll open well, get the girl to stop, she'll answer my question, stare at me blankly, and I'll exit the interaction prematurely as I run out of things to say.

This is where a canned 5-minute routine stack can be a tremendous asset.

spinaroonie,

Your tongue is the most important muscle in your body!

You can never run out of things to say. You gotta be able to talk basically non stop for 5-10 minutes or more.

You are on the right track. With practice you will be able to keep the conversation going longer.

I learned alot from this guy:

"Joe could talk a starving dog off a meat truck"


and this guy:

My favorite line is at 2:25.... "My mouth is like an uzi with a double click, armed and dangerous"

[spinaroonie]

(07-06-2011 02:30 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

(07-04-2011 10:58 PM)spinaroonie Wrote:  

Just started day game. The most challenging aspect is keeping the interaction going. Often times I'll open well, get the girl to stop, she'll answer my question, stare at me blankly, and I'll exit the interaction prematurely as I run out of things to say.

This is where a canned 5-minute routine stack can be a tremendous asset.

spinaroonie,

Your tongue is the most important muscle in your body!

You can never run out of things to say. You gotta be able to talk basically non stop for 5-10 minutes or more.

You are on the right track. With practice you will be able to keep the conversation going longer.

True. But easier said than done. Meeting a complete stranger and building attraction + comfort while stone cold sober on the street in less than five minutes is an extremely advanced skill for the average-looking guy. You can't pepper them with questions and bore them with small talk. They'll walk away fast. Most girls you stop have places to go.

That means
(a) having a strong, confident masculine vibe AND
(b) keeping htem hooked by saying stuff that will build ATTRACTION, QUALIFY, and develop COMFORT. Opinion openers, negs, DHV stories, routines, and all that old cheesy Mystery Method stuff that today's "too cool for school" gurus love to trash. Just tone it down for day game.

Of course with practice you'll get good, and you can ditch the script and go "natural". But until then, why not stick with what works - even if it seems weak?

[Basil Ransom]

You don't need scripts. You need conversational threads. Topics that you can riff on for 1-5 minutes each, and it will be completely natural sounding. I find myself talking about the same things over and over, but it doesn't sound fake.

Things I talk about:
Living in the douchebag capital of Socal. Devolves into conversation about how she likes assholes.
How I'm a homeless bum living in a tent on the beach. (I don't actually.) Subtle way to draw attention to my nice clothes.
How I'm superficial and shallow because I grew up in LA.

Of course, I'm mostly not talking about myself - I get her talking, and tease her.

I've been experimenting with stuff, that's transparently ridiculous, and then I turn it on her, sort of droll humor. I might start talking about how I've won the international sand castle championship 3 years running.

[Giovonny]

(07-06-2011 09:50 PM)spinaroonie Wrote:  

True. But easier said than done. Meeting a complete stranger and building attraction + comfort while stone cold sober on the street in less than five minutes is an extremely advanced skill for the average-looking guy.

That means
(a) having a strong, confident masculine vibe AND
(b) keeping htem hooked by saying stuff that will build ATTRACTION, QUALIFY, and develop COMFORT.

Its not easy but it can be learned. Start now because it will take a few years of dedicated practice to really get a feel for it. I think you need 1000 approaches just to learn your weaknesses and sticking points. After that you will make adjustments and fine tune.

It sounds like you have done enough studying, now you need to go out and pound the pavement in high traffic zones. This is the hardest part but the most rewarding. Get rejected hundreds of times but learn from each one.

Use canned material if it helps you, eventually you won't need it very much.

Study great speakers, watch them talk, it is an art form.