Quote: (02-22-2016 07:08 AM)Fortis Wrote:
I think there is a time and a place for serious game scholarship, but I think that sometimes guys hit that shit too early and it makes game into something that it isn't for them.
I know for me the best thing I did was get on this forum and figure out that you can get laid despite not being a super renaissance man like mystery and style. DOn't get me wrong, I appreciate those guys and their groundwork, but coming at the game with too much of an academic mind makes it harder than it needs to be for new guys like myself. I know that makes me sound like a lazy fuck, but I think that finding mystery method before RVF set me back a bit because it was all too much. In my 18 year old mind I was like, "oh shit, I have to think about all this shit AND be cool!?!?!." It was like reading advanced chess tactics when I hadn't even learned what each piece did. It gave me wrong impression of what getting laid was.
BUT I do think that the serious game scholarship is worth a read once guys understand how to get girls just by doing the basics: look good, approach, vibe and (hopefully) close. Once a guy gets to that point he is ready to start making the game scientific and really learn to work sets and stuff. I love reading YaReally's posts because you can tell he's a true student of the game and sees shit that a guy like me doesn't even know exists.
I couldn't agree more. I can't knock on Mystery Method too much, cause that seminal book "The Game", got me into this journey to begin with and push my boundaries. At the same time, I can say confidently that before I found Roosh's blog and other deeper game thinkers like the ones on this forum, I wasted a lot of time, energy, and precious forming years on these dogmatic techniques that got me very little marginal return on my efforts.
The holistic approach that is preached by many on this forum has immense benefits to game and life, but for a very frustrated and desperate man, such long term approaches don't catch the attention the same way as a "go do x and get y" mentality, using perceived sheer force of will.
Inner value, inner game, logistics, lifestyle, health/strength, outer game. More or less in that order.
Kind of sucks that my realization of this has parralelled with the dating scene in the US being more toxic than ever. I have a nice enough LTR anyways, but if that should fail I sincerely don't feel worried at all. I know where to go and what moves to make to move forward, and in the mean time I'm all about self improvement. I still have huge, huge problems to overcome personally, but I know the endstate and as the cliche goes... knowing is half the battle.
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