[RexImperator]

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It's Friday night at 8:30, and I'm here doing work and making money, instead of out spending money.

Uncle Ebeneezer?

[Phoenix]

(01-15-2016 05:07 PM)John Michael Kane Wrote:  

Met a wonderful girl online, talked for three months before visiting her country. Staid with her an entire month at her parents' house where she lived, interspersed with a friend's house nearby. We were inseparable. The first night we met, we went at it for hours, great passionate love making. She was and still is a total sweetheart. I'd wake up early in the morning with her under the covers sucking me ever so softly. Every day she'd do this. She told me out loud that a woman should leave her man's balls dry and it was her job to serve.

Once she'd take care of bedroom duties, she'd insist I stay in bed, and she went downstairs to wash my laundry and make me breakfast. It was always one huge meal after another. This girl just loved to spoil me. She bought me beer, fruit, you name it.

Please tell me this country, seriously. PM if necessary.

[blacknwhitespade]

Blabble about your insecurities and bitter things you're unhappy about. Keep wallowing in it even if she tries to encourage you or build you up. Eventually (if not rather quickly) she'll classify you as beta and seriously lose attraction for you, and dump you.

Or, you can be a MAN and tell her you don't think she and you are right for each other and shouldn't see each other anymore. Simple as that.

[Beyond Borders]

@ John Michael Kane

Why not just improve your financial situation and keep the girl? You sound quite taken with her.

[Agreddor]

My ltr graduates in May and I'm still stuck at uni. She ticks all the boxes in terms of wife material, but I told her that I can't marry her because I'm not looking to get married til I've established myself financially and gained enough travel experience.

She starts going on about waiting til her 30s for me. I tell her that if we do break up, it'll be on good terms.

She keeps bringing this up, and she even said that she would have my kid (if she was pregnant) without me during our recent pregnancy scare.

Her family is well connected and she claims she rejected her fathers friends sons (who is a billionare) marriage proposal because she was with me.

What dyou do when the girls in denial even after you've explicitly told her you won't marry her?

[dads]

(01-14-2016 01:12 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

Dude I don't get it, why are guys ghosting, fading away, or playing the beta with an LTR ?

This is NOT attacking anyone on the forum, but the general view point, my opinion will vary from others, I do respect everyone's input.

I get that if it's with a ONS, or a fuck buddy. I've done that.

With an LTR it IS different, no matter what anyone says. You invested your TIME in the relationship and so did she.

I have a no bullshit approach (for the most part) - I fucked up with my LTR - when I saw the signs and had the future talk I should've bounced immediately, but I waited a month longer.

There's no reason to ghost - I'd rather have a bitch straight up tell me, "I think we are going for different things" "You don't want me as a GF" or whatever else the hamster says.

There's no reason to fadeaway - I don't have time for that shit, rip the band aid right off, not a slow drawn out peel off. It's not fair to either of you. Tell her straight up shit isn't working out, you don't have to point out all the flaws, maybe just one serious one, or straight tell her you don't want to string her along with false hopes.

There's no reason to play the beta - I could never picture myself saying "I love you" to chase a girl away, I could never picture myself blowing up her phone to act all needy. Let alone say I'm poor.

A woman will respect you more for being straight up and honest. My ex LTR even told me "thank you for being honest, I appreciate that" (through the tears of course). She also told me the doors always open if I ever change my mind.

Just last year 2 girls I basically had mini LTR's with (on top of my main LTR) were upset and had the "what are we talk" I straight told them I don't have time for an LTR, they knew I was busy working or doing shit, and that it isn't fair anymore to them and we need to stop seeing eachother. One never talked to me again - the other pined after me for half a year texting me and calling me. I never talked to either ever again.

I think we can do better when communicating with women about what we want/what we expect in a relationship or whatever we're doing with them.

Here is a rebuttal. Doesn't this method create an "alpha ghost" scenario, in which a girl is ruined for the next guy because you broke up with her "the right way"? How damaging is it to a girls ego to be broken up with by a guy, it would be very hard for her to get over that. It would also be very hard to love her next guy as much as she loves the guy that didn't love her back. So, could it be argued that the best method, in terms of helping your fellow man as opposed to your own concept of "doing the right thing" is to ghost, act beta or fade away?

[Agreddor]

(01-16-2016 06:31 AM)dads Wrote:  

(01-14-2016 01:12 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

Dude I don't get it, why are guys ghosting, fading away, or playing the beta with an LTR ?

This is NOT attacking anyone on the forum, but the general view point, my opinion will vary from others, I do respect everyone's input.

I get that if it's with a ONS, or a fuck buddy. I've done that.

With an LTR it IS different, no matter what anyone says. You invested your TIME in the relationship and so did she.

I have a no bullshit approach (for the most part) - I fucked up with my LTR - when I saw the signs and had the future talk I should've bounced immediately, but I waited a month longer.

There's no reason to ghost - I'd rather have a bitch straight up tell me, "I think we are going for different things" "You don't want me as a GF" or whatever else the hamster says.

There's no reason to fadeaway - I don't have time for that shit, rip the band aid right off, not a slow drawn out peel off. It's not fair to either of you. Tell her straight up shit isn't working out, you don't have to point out all the flaws, maybe just one serious one, or straight tell her you don't want to string her along with false hopes.

There's no reason to play the beta - I could never picture myself saying "I love you" to chase a girl away, I could never picture myself blowing up her phone to act all needy. Let alone say I'm poor.

A woman will respect you more for being straight up and honest. My ex LTR even told me "thank you for being honest, I appreciate that" (through the tears of course). She also told me the doors always open if I ever change my mind.

Just last year 2 girls I basically had mini LTR's with (on top of my main LTR) were upset and had the "what are we talk" I straight told them I don't have time for an LTR, they knew I was busy working or doing shit, and that it isn't fair anymore to them and we need to stop seeing eachother. One never talked to me again - the other pined after me for half a year texting me and calling me. I never talked to either ever again.

I think we can do better when communicating with women about what we want/what we expect in a relationship or whatever we're doing with them.

Here is a rebuttal. Doesn't this method create an "alpha ghost" scenario, in which a girl is ruined for the next guy because you broke up with her "the right way"? How damaging is it to a girls ego to be broken up with by a guy, it would be very hard for her to get over that. It would also be very hard to love her next guy as much as she loves the guy that didn't love her back. So, could it be argued that the best method, in terms of helping your fellow man as opposed to your own concept of "doing the right thing" is to ghost, act beta or fade away?

Why would you bend over backwards for the her next guy? You dont owe him any favours. Its his job to make her love him more than she loved you.

Think. The alpha who she always complains about her loser ex boyfriend about. Would you want to be the loser ex boyfriend in her eyes?

[Khan]

(01-15-2016 05:07 PM)John Michael Kane Wrote:  

The first night we met, we went at it for hours, great passionate love making. She was and still is a total sweetheart. I'd wake up early in the morning with her under the covers sucking me ever so softly. Every day she'd do this. She told me out loud that a woman should leave her man's balls dry and it was her job to serve.

JMK, I find this very interesting because from what I can see around me, a lot of these nice, feminine sweetheart girls seem very frigid. It's as if their shyness somehow translates to their sex drive.

Did anyone else notice this?

[dog24]

I think this thread is a huge fail and could potentially ruin lives of newbies and lurkers who tried to do the "right thing".

Off the top of my head things seemingly "good girls" did to get at back at guys (who had the nerve) who broke up with them:
- Stalking
- Threats, even legal
- Family members or friends of the girl threatening you, physically or otherwise and actively trying to ruin your social life.
- Trying to ruin your career, i.e that little secret you once told her about your job watch it go public after she meltdowns.
- Once you get a new girl, you or your new girl are gonna receive pm's, messages, phone calls from people you probably didn't even knew existed blaming you for ruining a poor girl's life. Oooh and that's who you've been fucking all along!!!

If she's such a good girl and pretty enough that you chose to have something with her, how many guys do you think have already dumper her in her life? Most likely her 5 last boyfriends are still trying to get back with her, and you think just because you talk to her and explain to her she isn't good enough for you she's gonna take that maturely and act with honor and respect? (like only a man would)

Will some girls appreciate you breaking up with them and take it like an adult?... yes, but you never know who's gonna turn up to be a psycho bitch, so why risk it? It only takes one bad breakup for a guy to learn his lesson and watch his back.

Also i've seen many times guys boasting about breaking up with a girl in real life, and telling anyone who would listen how she wasn't good enough or pretty enough for him, just to blow up her phone trying to get back with her the second she gets another man.
Makes wonder if all this "having the talk" with her is nothing more than a ego boost for some guys who get off on watching a girl cry over them (not talking about fellow members).

And we all know that even if a girl agrees to just being a plate or a fuck buddy most likely in the back of her head she's hoping you are gonna change your mind after she proves how worthy she is, you knew that's what she wanted all along but don't feel guilty about it because you explained it to her from the beginning? What gives?

IMO it's much better to gradually spend less and less time together and then just dissappear.

[Vaun]

Ghosting works the best here, even if its mild ghosting, where you delay your text responses mid conversation, or just fall off the face of the earth for a few days with her. Or, shes away and texts you at 10pm on a Friday night "just to say hi", and you dont reply, or reply at 1am. Progressively this gives the smart ones the major hint, and they pull away, if they are smart and protective, which usually means they have high self esteem.

The good, lower self esteem girls, will keep pursuing you to their own detriment, like you could literally lead them off a cliff. Girls with blind desire to wife up and not lose the husband material they saw in you. Girls that wont go away. That is what total ghosting is for. The good low self esteem girl I let go of back in May is already engaged with a wedding date. It took me almost 3 years, a full on ghosting is all that worked. Genuinely happy for her, she wasn't going to get that with me.

Going into another one right now. Very torn about this because she is a catch; high self esteem, attractive and wants to please me. But I am not fishing, just trolling.

[jariel]

(01-13-2016 11:23 PM)General Stalin Wrote:  

Actually one of the things she was most upset about when we "talked" was that I didn't let her go sooner.

If I'm being candid, I actually would like to have her back. I mostly broke up with her because I was at a place where I didn't want a LTR at the time... and she was black and I don't like black girls' hair. Aside from that she was wonderful. I'd call her an 8, very feminine, always cooked for me, doing sweet things without asking, always dressed great, just all around great.

No offense, but allow me to be candid as well.

You should never contact that girl again.

What you gave us here was a backhanded compliment towards her in which you mentioned all these positives about her personality, yet you have already harbored a deep dislike for one of her genetic features -- one that appears to be across the board because "black girl hair" isn't just one particular texture or style.

Ultimately, you would be upset if she had your daughter, and your daughter came out with her hair or something close to it.

That's a rather deep, prejudiced sentiment to harbor, which suggests you should just curve Black women, especially if you are dealing with one who is looking for something serious. In your mind, it doesn't matter what the one you're with is bringing to the table, you'll still have the conscious thought that you can't stand one of her most prominent genetic features.

When a man is dealing with a "true 8" who is bringing positives to the table, yet he is looking for excuses to curve her, then he is the one with the problems, not her.

[jariel]

(01-14-2016 09:34 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

Every body does the fade or goes ghost. It saves them grief.

But if you actually care, you have to tell them what is wrong.

It's funny how the 'Sphere is all about honor and being forthright but turn their backs on those principles when it might result in a crying woman.

WIA

[XXL]

Fading / ghosting your long term GF?! You guys can't be serious. That's beyond ridiculous. Made my day

[General Stalin]

(01-16-2016 09:36 AM)jariel Wrote:  

(01-13-2016 11:23 PM)General Stalin Wrote:  

Actually one of the things she was most upset about when we "talked" was that I didn't let her go sooner.

If I'm being candid, I actually would like to have her back. I mostly broke up with her because I was at a place where I didn't want a LTR at the time... and she was black and I don't like black girls' hair. Aside from that she was wonderful. I'd call her an 8, very feminine, always cooked for me, doing sweet things without asking, always dressed great, just all around great.

No offense, but allow me to be candid as well.

You should never contact that girl again.

What you gave us here was a backhanded compliment towards her in which you mentioned all these positives about her personality, yet you have already harbored a deep dislike for one of her genetic features -- one that appears to be across the board because "black girl hair" isn't just one particular texture or style.

Ultimately, you would be upset if she had your daughter, and your daughter came out with her hair or something close to it.

That's a rather deep, prejudiced sentiment to harbor, which suggests you should just curve Black women, especially if you are dealing with one who is looking for something serious. In your mind, it doesn't matter what the one you're with is bringing to the table, you'll still have the conscious thought that you can't stand one of her most prominent genetic features.

When a man is dealing with a "true 8" who is bringing positives to the table, yet he is looking for excuses to curve her, then he is the one with the problems, not her.

I think you're taking my hair remark far more seriously than I am. I just like running my hands through soft, fair hair. I've dated a number of women of Caribbean and East African descent and all of them have thick, kinky hair. Some of them straighted/relax it but it still felt stiff and unpleasant to me, and all of them didn't like when I touched their hair which is a bummer. This is from my own experience. To call it prejudice is extreme and incorrect. Discriminant? Yes.

Also, to respond to your last sentence: of course. That is why I let her off. At the time I was not into what she was offering so I let her go gently and honestly.

[Gmac]

(01-15-2016 06:46 PM)John Michael Kane Wrote:  

I've been a student of Game for several years. I think a lot of men get into game to improve their chances of getting laid, meaning that sex is the primary motivation for learning. But as a man enters his 30's, he starts thinking more about his mortality, his legacy, and whether or not there is more to life than getting his wick dipped into as many wells as possible.

I come from a very happy family, and know that Game can be used for more than just getting club sluts or Tinderllas to hop on my pecker. The bottom line is, Game is a set of tools to help you accomplish what you want with women, and for me, that means finding a good girl once my own life is in order to settle down and have some kids. I'm not the naive beta I once was, and have learned to lead with dominance and women love me for it now.

Just this last week I told two really sweet girls that a woman's place is in the kitchen and in the bedroom, servicing her man's needs and having a good husband at her side taking care of them. One was 23 and the other 19. Both strongly agreed, and the 19 year old even admitted to me that she was a bit embarressed to say this, but that she wanted to have my babies! (Very flattering, and she acknowledges that at her young age it is best to have kids early and with a good man. Smart girl!)

The bottom line is, many of the good girls we talk about really do want to become wives and mothers. There's a certain confirmation bias of always chasing sluts and then wonder why we think of many women as sluts in this community. I'm not talking about white washing many Western women which are truly awful, but there are still diamonds in the rough. As men, we have the responsibility not to damage these diamonds. If you're not looking to wifey up a girl, don't get into an LTR or even date/sleep with these chicks, as you are only killing a bit of their soul and yours in the end.

I've learned my lesson.

[Vaun]

(01-16-2016 09:52 AM)XXL Wrote:  

Fading / ghosting your long term GF?! You guys can't be serious. That's beyond ridiculous. Made my day

Lets be honest, most long term relationships take years of trying to break up. What if you have tried to break up with a girl for two years, but for whatever reason you just cant shake her. That either one of you cant let the other go. Then it becomes much more complicated than "have a conversation where she will shed a few tears." There has to be a point where one person walks away for good. And usually its the woman.

[General Stalin]

(01-16-2016 11:33 AM)Vaun Wrote:  

(01-16-2016 09:52 AM)XXL Wrote:  

Fading / ghosting your long term GF?! You guys can't be serious. That's beyond ridiculous. Made my day

Lets be honest, most long term relationships take years of trying to break up. What if you have tried to break up with a girl for two years, but for whatever reason you just cant shake her. That either one of you cant let the other go. Then it becomes much more complicated than "have a conversation where she will shed a few tears." There has to be a point where one person walks away for good. And usually its the woman.

I firmly stand by the belief that if you can't break things off with a girl directly regardless of the situation then you lack important qualities that should define you as a man.

She may still pursue you and try to drag things on, but thats not on you. You break things off and cut contact. If you had a kid wither her than you obviously can't "cut contact" but you keep things civil for the sake of the kid as best you can.

I have broken up with girls I have dated for years, and not because they fucked up and it was an obvious things needed to end, but simply because things were no longer working out for me and the direction I was going. Grow some balls and tell the girl the deal.

It's evasive and dishonest at best, and damaging at worst. Someone said earlier that it's fucked up how we bitch up and down about girl flaking and ghosting but who are you if you're doing the same thing? No better for sure.

[Vaun]

(01-16-2016 11:43 AM)General Stalin Wrote:  

(01-16-2016 11:33 AM)Vaun Wrote:  

(01-16-2016 09:52 AM)XXL Wrote:  

Fading / ghosting your long term GF?! You guys can't be serious. That's beyond ridiculous. Made my day

Lets be honest, most long term relationships take years of trying to break up. What if you have tried to break up with a girl for two years, but for whatever reason you just cant shake her. That either one of you cant let the other go. Then it becomes much more complicated than "have a conversation where she will shed a few tears." There has to be a point where one person walks away for good. And usually its the woman.

I firmly stand by the belief that if you can't break things off with a girl directly regardless of the situation then you lack important qualities that should define you as a man.

I firmly stand by the belief that if you are so deluded into believing that you have to talk everything out ad naseum, with every woman that comes into your life, you lack more important things going on in your life. Most likely more women. I dont really ever complain when a girl flakes or ghosts me, I am actually happy if not relieved when she does.

[General Stalin]

(01-16-2016 12:23 PM)Vaun Wrote:  

(01-16-2016 11:43 AM)General Stalin Wrote:  

(01-16-2016 11:33 AM)Vaun Wrote:  

(01-16-2016 09:52 AM)XXL Wrote:  

Fading / ghosting your long term GF?! You guys can't be serious. That's beyond ridiculous. Made my day

Lets be honest, most long term relationships take years of trying to break up. What if you have tried to break up with a girl for two years, but for whatever reason you just cant shake her. That either one of you cant let the other go. Then it becomes much more complicated than "have a conversation where she will shed a few tears." There has to be a point where one person walks away for good. And usually its the woman.

I firmly stand by the belief that if you can't break things off with a girl directly regardless of the situation then you lack important qualities that should define you as a man.

I firmly stand by the belief that if you are so deluded into believing that you have to talk everything out ad naseum, with every woman that comes into your life, you lack more important things going on in your life. Most likely more women. I dont really ever complain when a girl flakes or ghosts me, I am actually happy if not relieved when she does.

No need to "talk everything out ad nauseam." You tell the girl you can no longer see her for the reasons that be and let her go.

Your reaction in the above post is something I would expect one to do to a fuck buddy they banged for a few months then got tired of. Are we still talking about LTRs or "every woman that comes into your life"? Different relationships call for different measures.

[Vaun]

(01-16-2016 12:41 PM)General Stalin Wrote:  

(01-16-2016 12:23 PM)Vaun Wrote:  

(01-16-2016 11:43 AM)General Stalin Wrote:  

(01-16-2016 11:33 AM)Vaun Wrote:  

(01-16-2016 09:52 AM)XXL Wrote:  

Fading / ghosting your long term GF?! You guys can't be serious. That's beyond ridiculous. Made my day

Lets be honest, most long term relationships take years of trying to break up. What if you have tried to break up with a girl for two years, but for whatever reason you just cant shake her. That either one of you cant let the other go. Then it becomes much more complicated than "have a conversation where she will shed a few tears." There has to be a point where one person walks away for good. And usually its the woman.

I firmly stand by the belief that if you can't break things off with a girl directly regardless of the situation then you lack important qualities that should define you as a man.

I firmly stand by the belief that if you are so deluded into believing that you have to talk everything out ad naseum, with every woman that comes into your life, you lack more important things going on in your life. Most likely more women. I dont really ever complain when a girl flakes or ghosts me, I am actually happy if not relieved when she does.

No need to "talk everything out ad nauseam." You tell the girl you can no longer see her for the reasons that be and let her go.

Your reaction in the above post is something I would expect one to do to a fuck buddy they banged for a few months then got tired of. Are we still talking about LTRs or "every woman that comes into your life"? Different relationships call for different measures.

Mine specifically is about an LTR who I tried recently to break up with for over 2 years. She moved to my neighborhood, less than a 5 minute walk away. You're right that its on me. I would call her up when I was horny or lonely. She was always there and pursuing me as well. I ghosted her about 5 times. This last time it was for good. To be honest I have never had an LTR end with a logical discussion. Its always been a painful event. And thats why I guess I avoid them now. All of my relationships now are short term.

In the event you have an LTR and you want to finalize your break up, of course you have the discussion, but you back it up with no contact. Thats what most women do and its really effective. I know from experience. Now thats what I do and I havent had a bad break up in 5 years.

[General Stalin]

Yeah man dragging things on is the always bad news from my experience. That's why I have a strict "never go back to a bitch" rule these days. I will certainly re-dial an old bang but never a girl I had any kind of serious or even semi-serious relationship with. Hitting it again or revisiting has never done me any good. Like you said, perceived lack of women in your life can be a big cause of that.

[TravelerKai]

(01-16-2016 11:06 AM)General Stalin Wrote:  

(01-16-2016 09:36 AM)jariel Wrote:  

(01-13-2016 11:23 PM)General Stalin Wrote:  

Actually one of the things she was most upset about when we "talked" was that I didn't let her go sooner.

If I'm being candid, I actually would like to have her back. I mostly broke up with her because I was at a place where I didn't want a LTR at the time... and she was black and I don't like black girls' hair. Aside from that she was wonderful. I'd call her an 8, very feminine, always cooked for me, doing sweet things without asking, always dressed great, just all around great.

No offense, but allow me to be candid as well.

You should never contact that girl again.

What you gave us here was a backhanded compliment towards her in which you mentioned all these positives about her personality, yet you have already harbored a deep dislike for one of her genetic features -- one that appears to be across the board because "black girl hair" isn't just one particular texture or style.

Ultimately, you would be upset if she had your daughter, and your daughter came out with her hair or something close to it.

That's a rather deep, prejudiced sentiment to harbor, which suggests you should just curve Black women, especially if you are dealing with one who is looking for something serious. In your mind, it doesn't matter what the one you're with is bringing to the table, you'll still have the conscious thought that you can't stand one of her most prominent genetic features.

When a man is dealing with a "true 8" who is bringing positives to the table, yet he is looking for excuses to curve her, then he is the one with the problems, not her.

I think you're taking my hair remark far more seriously than I am. I just like running my hands through soft, fair hair. I've dated a number of women of Caribbean and East African descent and all of them have thick, kinky hair. Some of them straighted/relax it but it still felt stiff and unpleasant to me, and all of them didn't like when I touched their hair which is a bummer. This is from my own experience. To call it prejudice is extreme and incorrect. Discriminant? Yes.

Also, to respond to your last sentence: of course. That is why I let her off. At the time I was not into what she was offering so I let her go gently and honestly.

Why did you bother to keep a woman around when you hated her hair? I don't get that shit at all! I myself only gets hard over a certain style of hair and I cannot imagine wasting my time with a woman that is outside that style/look. A woman with hair I do not like would have been a ONS or pump and dump for me and I almost never do that.

When hair is a no-go, men should treat that woman as if she is a bald bitch. That should automatically become a DO NOT TOUCH. Jariel is right to call you out on that back handed diss of a post, but let's dig deeper than that.

Was that woman simply the best you could do? You called her an 8. Okay cool. We all know that black women are the bottom of the totem pole in the US. It has been said too many times here that the best black women would get yanked from black men if white men ever bothered to start dating them. You guys could take the top end ones and get a better experience than us with them right off the bat. Thing is the only white dudes that like black women are guys with a fetish for them in some regard or the ones that have shitty value with white women in their various circles that may include them. Which one are you?

You are basically sleeping with the enemy. You should re-evaluate what your priorities are and make peace with yourself on an inner game level before you bother touching another black woman. Just because it does not harm us any, who you fuck, and who you dump, it still is a problem for you and you should not drag others in the same position with you. Date the women you really want. Stop settling for women you do not like. Chase what you really want, because at the end of the day, you gotta lay with the bitch, not me.

This isn't first time I think you have brought this up before, but I cannot remember the thread you did this before in.

Archie is right on as well. Alot of you guys need to either be honest or just be a fucking ghost. If you would expect a married guy like myself to give flowery advice to give a speech and be wishy washy like women about a breakup, prepare to be dissapointed. I let go at least 6 women right before I gave my now wife a ring and told her we were going to get married. I think I only told 2 women what I decided. 1 reacted strongly, etc. and the other (a 33 year old) was cool as fuck about the whole deal and understood. Point is, I did not give a shit. It was what was best for everyone. Get it over with quickly. Long and drawn out breakups or explanations are completely unnecessary.

Her: "Why?"

You: "Because it is my decision, and I think this is for the best for us both." Bye now and take care.

END COMMUNICATION

The quicker you end it, the faster she can heal.

Another issue is that you guys keep broads way too long. Talking about LTR this, and LTR that. I swear, I personally think 99% of RVF members are not qualified for LTRs. A RVF member LTR typically should 1 month to 1 year max. Any longer and you are just creating the carousel riding whore with blue hair and cats that we all fucking hate. Stop it. Please for the sake of humanity, get over your oneitises and just let the broads go. Almost none of you would know what to do with a unicorn if one fell in your lap.

Know your weaknesses. Know your strengths. Know yourself.

[262]

(01-16-2016 04:17 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

Another issue is that you guys keep broads way too long. Talking about LTR this, and LTR that. I swear, I personally think 99% of RVF members are not qualified for LTRs. A RVF member LTR typically should 1 month to 1 year max. Any longer and you are just creating the carousel riding whore with blue hair and cats that we all fucking hate. Stop it. Please for the sake of humanity, get over your oneitises and just let the broads go. Almost none of you would know what to do with a unicorn if one fell in your lap.

[TravelerKai]

I will bring up something else that we can all debate on, because I do not know the answer to this. I would love to hear Archie's view on it.

Is it better to dump a woman with a trollish or asshole-ish reason or way?

Or

Is it better to dump with a 100% and brutally honest reason as to why?


I have done both depending upon the woman and her age/experience. Not all older women would be best told 100% honest reasons just because they are older. Some have fragile psyche and being too truthful could permanently damage them when they are doing all the right things effort wise. Not all young ones can take a harsh shutdown either, but they are likely to be approached soon enough to forget about it.

What do you all think about that?

[TravelerKai]

(01-16-2016 04:29 PM)262 Wrote:  

(01-16-2016 04:17 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

Another issue is that you guys keep broads way too long. Talking about LTR this, and LTR that. I swear, I personally think 99% of RVF members are not qualified for LTRs. A RVF member LTR typically should 1 month to 1 year max. Any longer and you are just creating the carousel riding whore with blue hair and cats that we all fucking hate. Stop it. Please for the sake of humanity, get over your oneitises and just let the broads go. Almost none of you would know what to do with a unicorn if one fell in your lap.

How so? Flesh out your reasoning. Where am I wrong on that assessment? LTR stuff is popping up like crazy lately. As much as you guys ask for advice on them, some of us are dying to know what the itch is over. Where is the rationale coming from to drag women along for a ride for a long time, for no good reason, as if no new females will be available later in the year or next year to date?

I see alot of anti-abundance mindset going on lately and I really would like to know why that is.