[TigerMandingo]

(12-22-2015 12:18 PM)Dr. Howard Wrote:  

The same for the country. The skin color is 99% white. I live in a middle class neighborhood with 20 ish homes in it, 2 of which are black families...who are also perfectly friendly that everyone interacts with. However, when two toothless white motherfuckers are crawling through the neighborhood in a rusted out pickup truck someone will most likely stop them and ask what they are here for. No on is posting flyers at the trailer park down the road inviting them to the block party just because they are also white.

No one wants to live near the bottom feeders of society, regardless of skin color.

I don't think what you're experiencing in your small southern town is very representative of the country as a whole. Dusty is right on the money - whites don't want to live with blacks. Period. You should visit New England some time.

[The Beast1]

New England is an odd place, but the attitudes Dr. Howard posted are true. You'll find some mixing but the trash is generally concentrated in the trashy places (Dorchestor anyone?).

Getting Shack Shake in Chestnut Hill and shopping at the Wegmans over there, I never saw toothless Red Sux fans shopping there.

Contrast that to the Stop and Shop over in Allston. Oh boy it's night and day.

I also knew of a white family who stayed in Wollaston after the town became the new china town. They don't want to move for whatever reason and seem to not care. More power to them.

When it comes to race it's never white and black (hehe). There's going to be some mixing. Any attempts at trying to make it a cut and dry argument will have the "token" examples. Best to include them so the SWPL don't throw the baby out with the bath water.

[Kane12:00]

"Good fences make good neighbors" - a saying that seems to have been forgotten by modern society.

[kosko]

New England is a Puritan backwater. No way anybody with a strait face say that place is any way like the greater USA.

The mix uptight conservative lifestyles with over the top liberal ideals. That place should be its own country, they are weird over there and have little in common with Americans, The French/Acadians, or Eastern Canadians at large.

[Samseau]

(12-22-2015 05:24 PM)kosko Wrote:  

New England is a Puritan backwater. No way anybody with a strait face say that place is any way like the greater USA.

The mix uptight conservative lifestyles with over the top liberal ideals. That place should be its own country, they are weird over there and have little in common with Americans, The French/Acadians, or Eastern Canadians at large.

Even though segregation in NE is pretty intense, I wouldn't say it's not like the rest of the country. America is very segregated no matter where you go.

The token mixing you see is the 20%. The other 80% of people live within their racial enclaves.

Down south the segregation is extremely pronounced. When I was visiting Atlanta, I accidentally crossed the street into a Black neighborhood. I saw a bunch of blacks hanging out by a convenience store in broad daylight (must have been unemployed) so I walked by and looked into the windows. One of the men said, "Watcha doin, boy? Don't just stare go into the store if you want to look." I said okay and went inside the store, and there was just a clerk sitting behind some bulletproof glass and the shelves were nearly empty. There was one guy in there loitering in the back doing apparently nothing.

I walked back out of the store and the Blacks had taken an interest to me, talking very fast with one of the girls shouting, "DAYUMMMMMMM" over and over. They asked me where I was from and I told them. Then one of the Blacks came up to me, put his arm over my shoulder, and began to walk with me back into downtown Atlanta.

He was clearly high on something, and told me through slurred words how things worked around there.

"Now you see mang, you and yer kind stay over on that siiide of the streeet, and we stay over heeer. Butttur for evryone. Oh if you neeed sum guuud stuf, then you jus remebar I am your man. Jus' go to the Hard Rock cafe later and I can get somethung for ya."

I tell you right now, I've never seen or heard of anyone in New England who has been escorted out of a neighborhood for being the wrong skin color. And I was right next to downtown Atlanta, not even a 10 min walk away from the center of the city. The south's segregation and casual racism is obviously 10x worse than anything else I've seen.

And yet, despite the fact that everyone understood segregated neighborhoods as a fact of life, I've never met so many friendly Blacks and Whites in my life. I saw all the races openly talk with each other, including Black girls who would actually go up and start talking to me. That also has never happened to me once in New England. But I also saw that the races did tend to talk with "their own" more than with the others.

So, I'm not sure why you say NE is unlike the rest of the country - if anything, racism here is much less than almost anywhere else, even if the people here mostly live in their heads and are quiet. We don't have race riots, and the ghettos here are easily some of the finest in the country. I've been in quite a few welfare homes of Blacks and Whites and boy do they have it GOOD. Beautifully furnished homes, the finest appliances, widescreen TV's, the latest iPhone, etc. And yet even in spite of the royal treatment they get, still many Blacks will commit crimes of aggression more so than other races. And a lot of it is covered up and ignored by the media. The cops here definately know the score and look at non-Whites with greater suspicion than Whites. Yet few hold grudges up here, but there is the preference among at least 1/3 of the Whites here to stay in a mostly White neighborhood. Whites who enjoy mixing it up go to clubs/bars in Cambridge, Brookline, and Jamaica Plain where lots of mixing happens.

I'm pretty sure NE has the best race relations in the country, but it's probably because of the supermajority status Whites have here.

[Repo]

Where I'm from its more African American culture that white people hate. Hard working well spoken blacks who dis-associate with the AA culture seem to integrate well. A single word of ebonics or rap music will cause most upper class white people to avoid them like cancer however. Think your stereotypicle Republican black. . .sure some white people are still racist but most who meet the criteria that I have stated integrate well. Its the backwards AA culture that is holding back black people in America back the most in my opinion. I am not denying racism still exists, I just think the culture plays a big part in the continued segregation. I'm not black myself so could be completely wrong, but from my personal experiences this is what I've seen.

[Libertas]

Manhattan is pretty segregated, and the segregation is increasing.

In real estate, the demarcation line in terms of property values is 96th street on the east side (on the west side its a bit further up). "Manhattan below 96th street" is code for far more expense per square foot.

Guess what constitutes that demarcation line?

New England isn't a unique place.

@Repo: It is AA culture.

Recent African immigrants from places like Nigeria do much better than American blacks.

[262]

Over/under on when this thread devolves into another race thread?

[Mentavious]

^^It began as a race thread

[Repo]

@Libertas

Yeah, as an avid dater of black women, I typically end up with alot non-American black women or first or second generation immigrants. Typically all hard workers and very successful, with a good amount of white friends. As a white guy, these women seem to be the sweet spot. The only time I've ever experienced racism when out with a black woman has been when she wore more stereotypicle AA clothing. . . .I don't really talk to those types anymore. . we just don't have much in common.

[El Chinito loco]

People need to keep in mind the demographics of the U.S. and the younger anglosphere countries is just a long running social experiment.

America is still a young country and you can't really call multiculturalism a success as it is now. All these wacked out policies are just patchwork mixing and matching of theories to try and fit square pegs into round holes.

After living in homogenous countries for awhile now i'm pretty certain that multiculturalism really doesn't work in the long run and it's obvious which societies actually stand the test of time.

Just consider this for a moment..all the recent racial and class strife we've seen in the U.S. has been during unprecedented times of booming wealth and prosperity. What happens when things actually get tough?

Now imagine if the U.S. actually enters into an existential "dark" period where things are not so good like all the other long lasting old world countries/people in the world have experienced at one point. The good times aren't just going to last forever.

That will be the real test and i'm not terribly optimistic about the social fabric of the U.S. remaining intact as a nation. I believe when things really do get tough in the future (probably distant) things will balkanize real fast.

[Going strong]

(12-22-2015 06:51 PM)Libertas Wrote:  

Recent African immigrants from places like Nigeria do much better than American blacks.

African (recent) immigrants may be quieter, usually low-key and polite, but, many of them are involved in various scams (or felonies, sometimes crimes).

Remember for example the female African-immigrant maid who took down Strauss-Kahn? When the local DA office started investigating her life and background, they discovered many African-migrants' scams and webs of criminals...

Especially, African migrants are often involved in immigration scams. For instance, the female African-immigrant maid who collected Strauss-Kahn's DNA, had entered the USA through false testimonies and various lies and scams (some of them she learned on a tape that's being circulated in Africa, a tape explaining how to cheat American custom officers).

So, I'd advise Americans not to be fooled by the apparent calm, politeness or friendliness displayed by African-immigrants: often, there is more to see to them than meets the eye.

By the way, talking about this maid's case, an interesting read:

A leftist media explains that illegal migrants cheating and lying to enter the US, are... just "victims of the cruel immigration system":

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/20...-liar.html

US immigration laws "put asylum-seekers in a position where they may feel they have no other choice than lying."
I love that! Can you imagine being caught lying and saying: "hey, you've put me in a position where I felt I had no other choice than lying, so I'm the real victim here"

Read this article, it's quite fascinating how SJWs define truth!:

"When the issue of potentially falsifying testimony comes up, it tends to paint all asylum claimants in black and white. Either you tell the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, 100 percent of the time, or you’re not telling the truth and you have some sort of nefarious purpose. I don’t think that the reality is that stark."

[aSimpNamedBrokeback]

(12-22-2015 06:51 PM)Libertas Wrote:  

@Repo: It is AA culture.

Recent African immigrants from places like Nigeria do much better than American blacks.

Ugh, Its not AA culture, its called poverty. Nigerian immigrants come from wealthy backgrounds so of course they are going to do better.

[YossariansRight]

(12-21-2015 11:47 AM)Captainstabbin Wrote:  

(12-21-2015 07:38 AM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  

She will get bored and starved for attention regardless of how she hates men of her own creed. So what will they do? Why invite them over ofcourse! That will be a vector of criminality they're overlooking.

My cousin tried to do section 8 housing at one point. All of them have "guests" or boyfriends living with them for months at a time. Battered woman with 3 kids moves in, her boyfriend follows, then you're looking at all of his hood friends coming over for parties every weekend and using the house as a base for dealing in the burbs. It's the reason these places get trashed so quickly.

Who would want to live near this nonsense?

My fucking moron sister (Public school teacher, do I have to explain her political ideology anymore than that?) bought one of our uncle's houses before he went into assisted living. It was a 2 family house and served as the first place her & my BIL (another asswipe leftist) and several cousins lived in after they got married, saved up and bought their own house(s). It ran smoothly for the most part; generated nice income for them.

Then my sister & BIL decided to rent out to Section 8/welfare types...and you can guess what happened to the property. In less than 2 years, it became a total, complete shithole. I used to mown the lawn at the house and after "they" moved in, broken beer/booze bottles, general trash, etc. was just everywhere. I quit doing that lawn.

Anyway, after getting the garbage tenants out, my BIL "accidentally" left a paint removal gun plugged in near some paint thinner, etc. while he was "renovating" the place and it burned down.

Fucking sad what was done to that house.

[Dr. Howard]

(12-22-2015 08:46 PM)YossariansRight Wrote:  

(12-21-2015 11:47 AM)Captainstabbin Wrote:  

(12-21-2015 07:38 AM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  

She will get bored and starved for attention regardless of how she hates men of her own creed. So what will they do? Why invite them over ofcourse! That will be a vector of criminality they're overlooking.

My cousin tried to do section 8 housing at one point. All of them have "guests" or boyfriends living with them for months at a time. Battered woman with 3 kids moves in, her boyfriend follows, then you're looking at all of his hood friends coming over for parties every weekend and using the house as a base for dealing in the burbs. It's the reason these places get trashed so quickly.

Who would want to live near this nonsense?

My fucking moron sister (Public school teacher, do I have to explain her political ideology anymore than that?) bought one of our uncle's houses before he went into assisted living. It was a 2 family house and served as the first place her & my BIL (another asswipe leftist) and several cousins lived in after they got married, saved up and bought their own house(s). It ran smoothly for the most part; generated nice income for them.

Then my sister & BIL decided to rent out to Section 8/welfare types...and you can guess what happened to the property. In less than 2 years, it became a total, complete shithole. I used to mown the lawn at the house and after "they" moved in, broken beer/booze bottles, general trash, etc. was just everywhere. I quit doing that lawn.

Anyway, after getting the garbage tenants out, my BIL "accidentally" left a paint removal gun plugged in near some paint thinner, etc. while he was "renovating" the place and it burned down.

Fucking sad what was done to that house.

I have a buddy that is a section 8 landlord. He is probably also the most racist person I've ever met. Anyway, his strategy is when he gets a new rental he remodels it with 'bulletproof' materials...."like you would use if you were building a jail" he says.

He's said he's got tenant destruction budgeted into every place, but he said that tenants have getting worse and worse attitudes over the years. Like they think they are living in a hotel with the belligerent maintenance calls he has to send people on. Again to paraphrase he says "these people aren't on section 8 until they find a good job, they are section 8 for life...being on welfare is their job and they are experts at it"

[ball dont lie]

(12-21-2015 12:34 PM)Libertas Wrote:  

I first heard about this back in July. Such bullshit.

It's quite obvious what they're doing. Whites cannot even be allowed to have their own neighborhoods anymore. They aren't even trying to hide this.

Best thing to do in the states is to be somewhere that doesn't have people who aren't white. Smaller cities, big towns. 30,000 to 70,000. Lots of places like this. Between those cities/towns and others will be a 45 min drive. No one is going to bus from a city to other city to break the white wall.

If I go back to the states I will buy a house there. Another great issue in those smaller places, the cheaper houses haven't been ruined by low income savages destroying the lower cost housing.

[YossariansRight]

I should have pointed out in my above post that the Section 8/welfare cretins who destroyed my sister & BIL's house were white.

The feral mentality of this type of trash cuts across all races.

[YossariansRight]

The other thing to consider if you as a landlord don't want to deal with the Section 8/welfare shit is to not have a Section 8 approved building(s).

There are rules/codes that must be met to be approved. With a little bit of homework, you can find out what they are and make sure your property fails the approval.

Then if a Section 8/welfare type wants to rent from you, you can say: "I'd love to rent to you but I'm not Section 8/welfare approved.", pull out your rejection letter and show them.

It's a nice CYA defense against any potential low income type of discrimination claims.

[ColSpanker]

I've avoided posting this here because I have yet to see this documentary. The filmmakers and host strike me as typical SJW types, but at the same time they're bringing a topic to light no one in the MSM talks about: White Flight. Its the result of many factors and kudos for these people who had the balls to look at it from all the angles.
I did get the feeling they wanted to blame Team Red State for pushing Black Americans into one voting block, but the truth is far from it. I lived in St.Louis in the 1980's and well do I remember how William "Big Daddy" Clay ran the north side. I worked with a few of his relatives and the amount of graft and power that man wielded was phenomenal. I also note his son has inherited the Democratic party's fief in St.Louis. Perhaps they should make the office hereditary.

[mikeymike]

(12-21-2015 08:43 PM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  

(12-21-2015 08:17 PM)Fortis Wrote:  

(12-21-2015 12:00 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

Folks got no problem tracing their current ills back to feminism, but Lord forbid they try to do the same historical analysis with race and economics.

I'm not sure why Tony even posted this. With the level of critical thinking or lack thereof..

WIA

Black people and white people living together? Oh shit, the sky is falling!

Sometimes this forum is crazy.

It's a bit much to assume this is all about race. If you're a property owner you don't want a tenant living adjacent your property (or even in the same neighborhood) on responsibility free government subsidies from a crime ridden neighborhood.

It's common sense. Ghetto people, ghetto problems.

It doesn't matter if it's Tyrone from the block, or Joe bob with his truck propped on cinderblocks, or Jesus Gomez amateur fence vaulter champ from Guerrero.

If they are from a crime ridden neighborhood chances are they will bring all their literal and figurative baggage with them.

edit: Before someone tries to say I don't know what it's like to be from a poor bad neighborhood. Yes, I do. I lived amongst similar types I mentioned before in the wonderful state of CA. There were even SE asian gangbangers too as neighbors how's that for multicultural diversity. The trash version of every race was represented in the city I was in. I got out the old fashioned way and this may be a mysterious concept..hard work and education!

I'm not going to lie though things would have been much easier to be on the government dole. But I actually had relatives who didn't know how to apply for things like that since they were too busy actually working rather than squirting out more kids, riding the felon cock carousel, and gaming the system.

this is what it should be about but reading some of the comments in this thread there is a lot of they're trying to keep us whites from having our space...it should all be green space, earn the money, live in the best locations free of human trash of any color...I am Sikh and I make good money I live in an affluent area, I'd be pissed if they moved in trash into my neighbourhood but I'd be pissed if some white dude thought he deserved to be there more than me cause he was white. Fuck that shit.

[The Black Knight]

As others have said: trash is trash - it doesn't have any particular look or skin color. Nobody wants to work hard to live in a nice neighborhood and have trash follow them into it via government intervention that they pay for.

Relating to the article: If you do some googling about MD migration patterns, people are fleeing the state. The reasons cited are numerous: high taxes, jobs being moved to more business friendly jurisdictions, high cost of living, etc. Very liberal states like New York, Massachusetts, and California also have tons of people fleeing as well. No doubt, stupid policies like the one mentioned in the article are contributing to a lot of people saying fuck it and moving out of their respective state.

When will these libtards wake the fuck up (I know: probably never).

[Hell_Is_Like_Newark]

I have been a Landlord since 1997 and vowed never to rent to Section 8. However, since 2001 it is illegal to refuse a Section 8 voucher. It is no longer a voluntary program in NJ. So far I have been lucky enough to avoid them. I put a lot of effort renovating the properties I own and have been joyful at seeing the neighborhoods I invested in gentrify. I even see white women jogging at night... which ten years ago you would never see (too much crime).

The Atlantic some years back published an in-depth article about Section 8. It really damned the program, which I didn't expect from a left of center publication. The theme of the article: The increase in property and violent crime was directly proportional to the increase in the number of people using Section 8.

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/arch...ry/306872/

[Easy_C]

They're a little less fond of "diversity" when it impacts their own property values.

[BassPlayaYo]

(09-25-2016 03:55 PM)Hell_Is_Like_Newark Wrote:  

I have been a Landlord since 1997 and vowed never to rent to Section 8. However, since 2001 it is illegal to refuse a Section 8 voucher. It is no longer a voluntary program in NJ. So far I have been lucky enough to avoid them. I put a lot of effort renovating the properties I own and have been joyful at seeing the neighborhoods I invested in gentrify. I even see white women jogging at night... which ten years ago you would never see (too much crime).

The Atlantic some years back published an in-depth article about Section 8. It really damned the program, which I didn't expect from a left of center publication. The theme of the article: The increase in property and violent crime was directly proportional to the increase in the number of people using Section 8.

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/arch...ry/306872/

Section 8 in and of itself isn't the problem, in NYC a large number of Section 8 vouchers are held by the Hasidim.

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/hasi...-1.2639120

Quote:

New York City’s 123,000 vouchers make this the largest Section 8 voucher program in the country. Reluctant landlords and rising rents are making vouchers nearly impossible to use in many areas of the city. Tenants, especially larger families, are often relegated to the edges of Brooklyn and the Bronx. That’s why this cluster of Hasidic households stands out.

The neighborhood is home to one of the highest concentrations of Section 8 housing vouchers in the city, according to federal data analyzed by WNYC and the Daily News. In several of its census tracts, Section 8 tenants compose more than 30% of residents, a level reached only in scattered pockets of the Bronx.