[Elmo Lewis]

Hello there men. I am Matan, I am at the age of seventeen.
Despite my young age I encourage you to read this post and throw in some words of wisdom, if you happen to have any.
The English language isn't my native, but I study it enthusiastically, so I ask your pardon beforehand, and if you happen to find any grammar mistakes I would be grateful if you could point them out for me, thank you.

Long story short, I can't say I am a red piller from day one but was exposed to the truth of leftists propaganda lies by the male figures in my family; father and grandfather. I was exposed to the red pills idea when I gathered intel for a school work I had to make in a subject to my preference few months ago, the work was titled "The Feminisit Revolution of the 60's and how it ruined the western society."

Since getting exposed to those ideas and concepts I made major changes in my life.
Began meditating daily, follow my nutrition carefully and avoid junk food, signing up for French courses, workout 3 times a week, fix my posture, sign up for military-style training class, get a job, studying the oud (ancient musical instrument), got a beautiful feminine girlfriend whom I love and care for, read the work of Dostoevsky, read ROK almost daily and generally taking my life seriously.
I went from a stoner who spends countless amounts of times doing shit to a man, at least that is what I like to think.

Not here to pour out for you my life story so the point;
I wanted to ask you fellow red pillers for advice on how to make it big, become the most masculine version of myself, what paths should I take? What sections of my life I should focus on the most? How can I maximize my well being as a 17 y/o? What mistakes that you men has made that I can avoid in the future?

Reading materials, subjects and ideas to study would be happily taken, too.

Awaiting your wisdom unpatiently,
Warm regards.

[jake1720]

Don't major in the liberal arts. Be an investment banker, engineer or something like that so you have stacks of cash.

Get as many girlfriends as you can. Don't marry any (vasectomy optional).

That's pretty much it. Do those two and you'll be way ahead of everyone else.

[Tactician]

Just a quick recommendation.

You mention you're 17. If you have some favourite books, keep them and come back to them later in your life. There are two reason for this. 1. You will have a lot more reference experiences then, and will be able to gleam much more insight into those works. 2. You will forget a lot of the things you learned.

From my own life. When I was 16 or 17, I read Machiavelli's The Prince. I'm sure I learned a few things from it, but because I was young 1. I didn't have enough experience to understand that much of the book. I probably really understood less than half of it. And, 2. as the years passed, I forgot a lot of the lessons inside that book.

So what I'm saying is, save the best of the reading materials after you're done with them, and check them out with fresh eyes a few years down the road.

[Sonoma]

Read more informal English, as it's quite apparent it's your second language (I'm not criticizing, I'm nowhere near bilingual)

I would start an education that can make an income, and try to work a new job on the side as often as possible

[Elmo Lewis]

Do you recommend The Prince, Tactician?
Which fields of work has proven themselves to be resourceful in 2015?

[jake1720]

Just study mechanical engineering and get a decent GPA you can do pretty much anything.

If you want to be super conservative be an investment banker. Somehow bankers always figure out how to make money.

Stay away from law unless you get into a top law school. Too many. And stay out of oil and gas. It pays well and then next day your back looking for work.

[Elmo Lewis]

I am examining a career path in the Ministry of Foregin Affairs or the Army.
The first includes majoring in Internal Relationship or a samiliar bachelor degree,
the latter includes attending army officers course and climb the ladder.

Any thoughts?

[Baldwin81]

(12-18-2015 07:15 PM)Elmo Lewis Wrote:  

I went from a stoner...

The only advice I'm qualified to give is the following:

Be careful to never return to being a "stoner."

Your thirties seem like a long, long way away, I'm sure... however, if you waste your late teens and twenties getting stoned will have wasted your prime years on what is essentially nothing.

[B TAHKE]

Good for you for asking for advice at the age of 17. Keep it up! Keep your eyes open, observe what goes on around you. Think about what you observe, and ask yourself if what you see, I.E. the people, situations, and experiences that you observed will help you move more towards your goals or move you more away from your goals. Stay away from the people, situations etc. that move you away from your goals.

I see you might be Israeli. If this is true, do your time as a soldier as your country requires, and if at all possible use the military to train you in things such as languages: Russian, Chinese, Arabic, Spanish, German, French, in that order as this is where Global Power is tending to move. Keep practicing your English, and become fluent, as this is where Global power is currently. Also use the military to gain other skills. I.E. Military Intelligence, Engineering, etc. If you can get the military to pay for University, do so no need run up a bunch of debt for university if you can get someone else to pay for it.

If you can become an officer while you are in the military, do it. It will provide you an opportunity to lead men (and women). Once you are in, if you are in the military more than 5 years, you are in it too long.

Use the Government and military ONLY to accomplish things towards your goals. DO NOT become a Government employee, as you become a slave to the people, and not true to yourself.

Also, DO NOT become a firefighter, or police officer...(See above about Government employee) It may be heroic, and it does draw the pussy.. but.. you can get a really bad case of White Knight syndrome REAL FAST.

[LINUX]

I can tell you the mistakes and lessons that I learned from my life and you can disregard them or learn from them as you please.

1. When I was young, I was too busy playing football and chasing women and I never visited my grandparents, I regret that now because they're all dead and I never heard their stories.

2. I was seeing a psychologist for many years after war and one day I saw him in the line at the pharmacy picking up his prescription for anti-depressants and sleep medication. When I asked him about it, his reply was, "Everyone is fucked up Linux, some are just better than others at pretending they're not."

3. I've had hundreds of girlfriends that I treated really well, but there were a few that I treated like shit and it bothers me still.

4. Game isn't about how many women you can bang or how many phone numbers you can get. Game is knowing that wherever in this world that you go, regardless of the language they speak, you will never be alone.

5. I had a great marriage, dual income making close to 200k a year, I had a huge house, I had a good wife, I had no debt. I have what many guys here chase after, but I was miserable. Now I have nothing but freedom and spontaneity and apart from a few nights here and there, I'm a really happy person and I never want to go back to the life I previously had.

6. They key to having good friends is to call them when you don't need anything.

7. Be careful on the internet, if someone writes you advice, sells you a product, judges you, critiques you, hides behind a screen name or email address, without ever meeting anyone and showing them who they really are. Odds are, they're full of shit.

8. Always chase beauty, whether that's an ass of a beautiful woman, a piece of art, a poem, or a flower. I really believe that when imagination is gone, the soul dies.

9. A man should never be a slave to his own thoughts and emotions.

10. “To be yourself in a world that is constantly trying to make you something else is the greatest accomplishment.”

[polar]

Poke around, there's a TON of advice threads around here, just use search.

To kill it career-wise, you either should be in the top 1% of one field or in the top 10% of two different but related fields (and know how to talk to people in both).

Also, at some point, learning more about a career field is less helpful to getting ahead than improving your social skills. There are millions of brilliant engineers who lack social skills and end up underpaid because of it. An average engineer with excellent social skills will have a better life (and might make more money) than an excellent engineer with poor social skills. Social skills are not optional.

[Thomas the Rhymer]

(12-19-2015 11:51 PM)LINUX Wrote:  

I can tell you the mistakes and lessons that I learned from my life and you can disregard them or learn from them as you please...

+1, thanks for sharing.

[Travesty]

Now after enough experience I really believe unless you are personally proud of banging a girl (your standards only) it is in the same wasteful realm as jerking off to porn. There are many many girls that pass the boner test, but come no where near passing the pride test.

That energy, time, and emotion can be used elsewhere. The only exception would be a 6 month cold streak, in which time you should be working so hard on yourself that not getting laid should be a challenge.

Also you need to be proud of banging a girl after each time it has to bring some mental joy outside of physical release. Some girl that is one and done others, the sex is always worth it mentally.

I think beyond the porn/masturbation waste of energy the next step are these jump off girls that waste ungodly amounts of men's time that should be directed to family, friends, and self.

[Irenicus]

First of all, go thank God,the heavens, the Flying Spagetti Monster or whatever higher being you believe in for discovering the red pill quite early in your life. I am quite confident that many of us did not discover it at that age, but much later.

The books which are a good start are Bachelor Pad Economics and Bang. Also, I have heard good things about Gorilla Mindset on this forum (I am about to order it as well).

Speaking of which subject you could study, STEM and its related fields such as accounting and computing are the way to go. As someone said, avoid liberal arts and law. Especially law - in Israel (and in much of developed world) it is over saturated and you really need a good connection to get you started. Hell, I know a guy, who graduated law with good grades, who works as a security guard.

Keep going to the gym as much as possible, good work. And do not develop oneitis with your gf, it will only hurt you.

Also, try setting an online business. Start locally (use Yad2) and when, and if, you get some experience, expand to Ebay. Try to get as much experience as you can before you get drafted - unless you have someone outside on which you can rely on, you will need to take a big break.

As someone who recently finished his service here in the army, listen carefully. Choose a combat unit (training is easier now, it used to be longer and harder until very recently - it is 4 months now, used to be 7+ ). If you have affinity with technology, choose tanks, artillery or combat engineering. If not, choose one of the infantry units (speak with the people who are serving, or who served until recently, try to figure out how is the feeling in each of them). Try gibbushim (both for s13, Matkal...) and for the batallion SF's. And Paras. Also, try to get a kurs makim ( and if you are fancy, kurs ktzinim)- both will help you develop you sense of responsibility even more, which will certainly help you in your career. Not to mention that it will give you a good platform to introduce your subordinates with the concept of neomasculinity. And the power to give a Shabbat to anyone who votes, or thinks well about any SJW party. Also, do not neglect reading during your service (after tironut, you will have time for that, do not worry) - there are a lot of books that will help you - check this forum for good reads.

Have a positive attitude all the time. And be as social as possible and avoid being a douchebag. You will probably meet your business partners and future customers during your service.

Avoid jobnik positions - too much drama and too blue pill. And too many fatties. If you want to work in cubicle for the rest of your life and be miserable in some way like 99% of the population, go ahead. It will train you for such enviroment.

As B Tahke said, just do your 32 months and get the fuck out. You did enough (and you will contnue to in miluim), now it is your time and your time only to kick some ass - the manak shihrur and pikadon will help you a lot. Do not spend them on travels. Hopefully, if you business soars, you will not spend 2 months (or whatever) in Thailand, but much, much longer than that. Instead of slaving, you will be sitting comfortably in Pattaya with an Iphone10 ( ), on which you will be managing your business from and checking ROK. And a nice 9 fellating you - your GF of course, does not have to know. And who cares if she does ?

Phew. The longest text I wrote on any forum so far. I sincerely hope it will help you somewhat. Best of luck Matan.

[mammal]

(12-19-2015 11:51 PM)LINUX Wrote:  

I can tell you the mistakes and lessons that I learned from my life and you can disregard them or learn from them as you please.

I will not quote Linux's entire post, but it's great advice.

Also:
A bit of TV, movies, videogames, internet, texting, hanging out at bars, beach, chasing women are all good IN MODERATION. Done to excess they're a waste of time.

Find true friends and keep them. Keep people who take you down, use you, lie, out of your life. I said "people" this applies to male friends and girlfriends.

Take care of your health, avoid overeating, a poor diet, tobacco, drugs, alcohol. You won't feel the effects while you're young,you will seethem many years from now.

Make time for your parents, and other family members.

Save your money. You can't predict the future and may face unemployment, or other financial problems. If you don't save 10% now you will notsave 10% when your incomedoubles; you'll keep making the same excuses you're making now. Fact is,if your salary were cut by 10% you'd find a way to get by with less.

[Filbert]

(12-18-2015 07:15 PM)Elmo Lewis Wrote:  

Began meditating daily,

Regarding meditation, try to find a group with a solid master (guru) in your area (even if the master is no more on earth), and join it. I recommend this, as in the beginning the group meditation helps a lot and a real master can really teach you. Meditation leads to real mastery in life.
A tip: a good meditation group will have strict discipline rules.

[FunkCoup]

Look into programming bootcamps. You'll be golden

[NASA Test Pilot]

1.Your Attention determines your reality.
2.Your only have 29,000 (plus or minus) days here, so use them well.
3.You are given one body, so treat it like a thoroughbred race horse.
4.Actions speak louder than words.
5.Be with the people with whom you have the most respect.
6.Do the activities that you enjoy doing.
7.Make peace with any short comings that you may have
8.Learn something new each day.
9.Continue to master the elements of your reality.
10.Live in the real world, not the virtual.
11.You have two ears and one mouth, listen twice as much as you talk.
12.Women come and go, but true friends are always there.
13.Enjoy your time with your parents because someday they will be gone.
14.Smile more.
15.Do not be afraid to live your dreams.

[Peregrine]

Quote:

5. I had a great marriage, dual income making close to 200k a year, I had a huge house, I had a good wife, I had no debt. I have what many guys here chase after, but I was miserable. Now I have nothing but freedom and spontaneity and apart from a few nights here and there, I'm a really happy person and I never want to go back to the life I previously had.

That really spoke to me. I could see myself living that life in a few years, and I'm not sure if it's what I want. I think it's what I want, but what the fuck do I know about what I want. Maybe I'll have to try it out and find myself miserable like LINUX to know it's not what I wanted after all.

[tonired]

All you need to know;

[Suits]

(12-19-2015 11:51 PM)LINUX Wrote:  

I can tell you the mistakes and lessons that I learned from my life and you can disregard them or learn from them as you please.

1. When I was young, I was too busy playing football and chasing women and I never visited my grandparents, I regret that now because they're all dead and I never heard their stories.

2. I was seeing a psychologist for many years after war and one day I saw him in the line at the pharmacy picking up his prescription for anti-depressants and sleep medication. When I asked him about it, his reply was, "Everyone is fucked up Linux, some are just better than others at pretending they're not."

3. I've had hundreds of girlfriends that I treated really well, but there were a few that I treated like shit and it bothers me still.

4. Game isn't about how many women you can bang or how many phone numbers you can get. Game is knowing that wherever in this world that you go, regardless of the language they speak, you will never be alone.

5. I had a great marriage, dual income making close to 200k a year, I had a huge house, I had a good wife, I had no debt. I have what many guys here chase after, but I was miserable. Now I have nothing but freedom and spontaneity and apart from a few nights here and there, I'm a really happy person and I never want to go back to the life I previously had.

6. They key to having good friends is to call them when you don't need anything.

7. Be careful on the internet, if someone writes you advice, sells you a product, judges you, critiques you, hides behind a screen name or email address, without ever meeting anyone and showing them who they really are. Odds are, they're full of shit.

8. Always chase beauty, whether that's an ass of a beautiful woman, a piece of art, a poem, or a flower. I really believe that when imagination is gone, the soul dies.

9. A man should never be a slave to his own thoughts and emotions.

10. “To be yourself in a world that is constantly trying to make you something else is the greatest accomplishment.”

Fuck, ya.

[Tactician]

Yeah, The Prince is pretty good. A lot of people here will recommend The 48 Laws of Power.

[Constitution45]

Lift, Gym, Fitness, Martial arts - Extremely important, it provides you with testosterone which is really the magic fuel all men need. Been cheated on by your girlfriend ? lost your job ? Feeling unsure about life ?
Going to the gym will put you in the right frame of mind.

Study a real subject or get into a niche that can provide an internship. Liberal arts are mostly a waste of time. I would suggest taking the years between 19-22 very seriously. Try to get as many internships as possible and don't care about getting your hands dirty. This is the time when people will treat you like nothing because you are essentially new. Let it help you develop and grow a thicker skin for the future.

I would say skilled trades, investment banking, military/police service, cyber IT are fantastic jobs for men.

Girls, treat it like a numbers game, really try to experience as many women as possible. You are from Israel so you are at an advantage when compared to your fellows living in the Anglosphere. But I say really be bold and non caring. Don't be afraid of getting rejected or heartbroken. It's counter to a lot of advice on here, but if there is a girl who supports you getting to your goals and provides you with a good sex life then you might want to think about keeping her around. It depends on what your purpose is.

Study economics (Thomas Sowell Milton Friedman), crowd psychology, body language.

Learn to ride on top of your emotions, like its a horse, rather than be controlled by them. You realise that women are nature's test for men in this regards. I would give you a lot of advice in terms of avoiding popular culture due to his harmful effect on masculinity, but you are living in Israel so I am unsure by what the situation would be like over there.

[bgbusiness]

(12-19-2015 11:51 PM)LINUX Wrote:  

9. A man should never be a slave to his own thoughts and emotions.

Hit me really HARD.
Thank you.

[tomzestatlu]

delete: I just found out this thread is out-of-date