[PapayaTapper]

(12-17-2015 09:30 AM)robreke Wrote:  

(12-16-2015 12:42 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  

Here are a few

1A. Girl: "So How old are you?"

PT: "Old enough not to get involved with superficial women" (I call this my 180 deg pivot...get her to start qualifying to you)

1.B Girl: "I think you're too old for me" (Statement slightly different than 1 A question)

PT: "The question isn't whether I'm too old for you. The question is whether you're mature enough for me" (Classic but still effective)

2.Girl: "So How old are you?"

PT: "Old enough to bend you over my knee and give you a good spanking if I need to"
(I use that one if I suspect underlying daddy issues/older guy fantasy)

3.Girl: "So How old are you?"

PT: "Old / mature enough not to let what my friends or family think keep me from doing what I want"

(I refer to that one as a "cock block inoculation" if girl is around others. One of the biggest stumbling blocks to banging younger women that might otherwise want to)


There are many others. Pivot/ deflect or ignore. Keeps the mystery/potential/tingles alive

Bottom line OP: I understand your reservations about being dishonest or manipulative. But I also know that any girl that gets to be in my life for a significant period of time will enjoy it. The only time I've ever had a complaint about my age after the fact was when they were on the way out. That says it all to me

^@PT - those are good replies.

How do the girls typically respond to these? What do you do/say in the 'moments of silent tension' that hang in the air after you deliver these? Do you give her a number of just change the subject?

I treat it like a shit test (which it is really...if she's not at least slightly interested she wouldn't be asking).

It depends on the venue /situation / context but I approach it like most questions from a chick I've just met and just pivot / redirect/ or ignore. I usually follow it it up with a question of my own. Or I give them a little smirk , turn away and look around as if I'm bored, then ask her a question.

If she pushes for an actual number I lie if I think it's going to make a difference. I can realistically shave almost 8-10 years and get away with it (The advantage of wrinkle free Latin skin )

[Dino]

(12-17-2015 10:45 AM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  

(12-17-2015 09:30 AM)robreke Wrote:  

(12-16-2015 12:42 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  

Here are a few

1A. Girl: "So How old are you?"

PT: "Old enough not to get involved with superficial women" (I call this my 180 deg pivot...get her to start qualifying to you)

1.B Girl: "I think you're too old for me" (Statement slightly different than 1 A question)

PT: "The question isn't whether I'm too old for you. The question is whether you're mature enough for me" (Classic but still effective)

2.Girl: "So How old are you?"

PT: "Old enough to bend you over my knee and give you a good spanking if I need to"
(I use that one if I suspect underlying daddy issues/older guy fantasy)

3.Girl: "So How old are you?"

PT: "Old / mature enough not to let what my friends or family think keep me from doing what I want"

(I refer to that one as a "cock block inoculation" if girl is around others. One of the biggest stumbling blocks to banging younger women that might otherwise want to)


There are many others. Pivot/ deflect or ignore. Keeps the mystery/potential/tingles alive

Bottom line OP: I understand your reservations about being dishonest or manipulative. But I also know that any girl that gets to be in my life for a significant period of time will enjoy it. The only time I've ever had a complaint about my age after the fact was when they were on the way out. That says it all to me

^@PT - those are good replies.

How do the girls typically respond to these? What do you do/say in the 'moments of silent tension' that hang in the air after you deliver these? Do you give her a number of just change the subject?

I treat it like a shit test (which it is really...if she's not at least slightly interested she wouldn't be asking).

It depends on the venue /situation / context but I approach it like most questions from a chick I've just met and just pivot / redirect/ or ignore. I usually follow it it up with a question of my own. Or I give them a little smirk , turn away and look around as if I'm bored, then ask her a question.

If she pushes for an actual number I lie if I think it's going to make a difference. I can realistically shave almost 8-10 years and get away with it (The advantage of wrinkle free Latin skin )

Real players don't need to make up lies or justify doing so.

[PapayaTapper]

(12-17-2015 10:49 AM)Dino Wrote:  

(12-17-2015 10:45 AM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  

(12-17-2015 09:30 AM)robreke Wrote:  

(12-16-2015 12:42 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  

Here are a few

1A. Girl: "So How old are you?"

PT: "Old enough not to get involved with superficial women" (I call this my 180 deg pivot...get her to start qualifying to you)

1.B Girl: "I think you're too old for me" (Statement slightly different than 1 A question)

PT: "The question isn't whether I'm too old for you. The question is whether you're mature enough for me" (Classic but still effective)

2.Girl: "So How old are you?"

PT: "Old enough to bend you over my knee and give you a good spanking if I need to"
(I use that one if I suspect underlying daddy issues/older guy fantasy)

3.Girl: "So How old are you?"

PT: "Old / mature enough not to let what my friends or family think keep me from doing what I want"

(I refer to that one as a "cock block inoculation" if girl is around others. One of the biggest stumbling blocks to banging younger women that might otherwise want to)


There are many others. Pivot/ deflect or ignore. Keeps the mystery/potential/tingles alive

Bottom line OP: I understand your reservations about being dishonest or manipulative. But I also know that any girl that gets to be in my life for a significant period of time will enjoy it. The only time I've ever had a complaint about my age after the fact was when they were on the way out. That says it all to me

^@PT - those are good replies.

How do the girls typically respond to these? What do you do/say in the 'moments of silent tension' that hang in the air after you deliver these? Do you give her a number of just change the subject?

I treat it like a shit test (which it is really...if she's not at least slightly interested she wouldn't be asking).

It depends on the venue /situation / context but I approach it like most questions from a chick I've just met and just pivot / redirect/ or ignore. I usually follow it it up with a question of my own. Or I give them a little smirk , turn away and look around as if I'm bored, then ask her a question.

If she pushes for an actual number I lie if I think it's going to make a difference. I can realistically shave almost 8-10 years and get away with it (The advantage of wrinkle free Latin skin )

Real players don't need to make up lies or justify doing so.

I don't remember the term "real players" being mentioned in this thread but please tell us more

[SomeFcksGiven]

(12-17-2015 10:49 AM)Dino Wrote:  

Real players don't need to make up lies or justify doing so.

(12-17-2015 11:34 AM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  

I don't remember the term "real players" being mentioned on this thread but please tell us more

Dino seems to be content banging post-wall women, the easiest demographic to bed. Very little game is required with this lot as their standards are significantly lower along with their SMV.

Not knocking him for pursuing what he's happy settling with.. personally I prefer women in their prime.

[SomeFcksGiven]

(12-17-2015 10:30 AM)heavy Wrote:  

thread-39894.html

Thanks for the link. Lots of good info in there. Didn't see that post when I searched the forum (it's about a year and a half old)

[PapayaTapper]

(12-17-2015 12:01 PM)SomeFcksGiven Wrote:  

(12-17-2015 10:49 AM)Dino Wrote:  

Real players don't need to make up lies or justify doing so.

(12-17-2015 11:34 AM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  

I don't remember the term "real players" being mentioned on this thread but please tell us more

Dino seems to be content banging post-wall women, the easiest demographic to bed. Very little game is required with this lot as their standards are significantly lower along with their SMV.

Not knocking him for pursuing what he's happy settling with.. personally I prefer women in their prime.

Likewise. Ive said it before...the only thing I like brown around the edges is my toast

[blacknwhitespade]

If you're just looking for casual sex with the youngest girls possible, make up an age that you can realistically pass for with your appearance. Also, on dating sites, add 1-2 inches onto your height. Everyone overestimates their height anyways. Always list your body type as "Athletic/Toned".

[TheBMan]

Very timely topic for me and I just had this problem...So I just turned 39 but look much younger as well - typically they guess in the 28-33 range - hardly anyone has ever thought I was older then low 30's. I changed my tinder profile to 30 and have been out w/a few girls I'd like to bang - not date seriously though - and it can be a little tricky lying since it seems to ripple - things like when you graduated HS and college, how much business experience you have, etc can be tricky. Last girl I was out w/told me her things didnt work out w/her ex because and that it was hard dating a guy 8 years older (i'm 10 years older) while telling me how normal I was. The reality is girls are mostly dumb, but I have come to the conclusion you are immediately disqualifying yourself w/lots of girls by telling them your true age, when if you just lie and let them spend time they will realize its not important. One of the things I've also been saving is just telling girls I'm 30 - then as things progress saying 39 and saying they must have misunderstood me.

[Black_Eagle_Six]

If you have noticeable grey hair (at the temples) like I do, and if you are in a real-time situation (not on electronic anything), push them with something extreme like: "I am seventy..." and wait for it... "one..." and see how long it takes for her to laugh or not. If you get a good sort of laugh where she slaps you on the shoulder, or grabs at you, like you are a "dirty old man" then tell her "that's classified until you get clearance" and ask for her age after some off-topic rambling. If she gives it to you, and you believe her, then close the distance. If she doesn't get it, blow her off like she's stupid. Only tell her your age after outstanding sex and if you think you will want to have sex with her again.

[TheBMan]

I used to ask them to guess - then when they would guess - usually off by 8-10 years - I would say "good guess" w/o answering the question, then change the subject. Sometimes they would say "so wait, you are xxx?" but most of the time they would just kind of forget.

[steak]

it's always bet to lie closer to 26-28 depending on how you real the girl. If you're younger you add 1-3 years towards i you're older you adjust down.

It will just make you a better prospect in her mind and once you've known each other for a year or nah she might find out. Never admit mistake or apologize and then you win

[Excalibur]

I have lied about my age 10 years on match.com and dated a girl for a year. I told her my real age on the second date and she was cool with hit.

I have told a girl 15 years younger than me my actual age and she was cool with it and we dated for several months.

My decision is to lie online. Online the girl is already 1 point lower in looks than her picture, and if you limit yourself to 35+ women which is the group that is interested in my age group, then you really don't have much of a selection. And as we know it, online dating is a number's game.

In real life game, perhaps push for a physical commitment as soon as possible before revealing your real age. The classical technique is to reveal your age after you have sex. But what I am talking about is as soon as you can - extended hand holding, physical banter, kissing, etc. as soon as possible. If a girl is already attracted to you physically instead of gauging you as a whole package she will backwards rationalize that she's dating George Clooney lol.

[Dino]

(12-17-2015 12:01 PM)SomeFcksGiven Wrote:  

(12-17-2015 10:49 AM)Dino Wrote:  

Real players don't need to make up lies or justify doing so.

(12-17-2015 11:34 AM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  

I don't remember the term "real players" being mentioned on this thread but please tell us more

Dino seems to be content banging post-wall women, the easiest demographic to bed. Very little game is required with this lot as their standards are significantly lower along with their SMV.

Not knocking him for pursuing what he's happy settling with.. personally I prefer women in their prime.

You have passive aggressiveness down to a science. Now if you could transfer that knowledge to how you interact with women you would not need to lie about age, occupation, etc. Focus on self improvement so you are attractive to your target audience no matter your age. Time stops for no one. Not even for you losers who take swings at me for fucking milfs. Keep lying to yourself and chasing your own tails if you want the same low quality results. But hey you can always use the Internet to connect with other like minded losers.

Merry Christmas cock suckers.

[blacknwhitespade]

(12-18-2015 08:19 AM)Excalibur Wrote:  

I have lied about my age 10 years on match.com and dated a girl for a year. I told her my real age on the second date and she was cool with hit.

I have told a girl 15 years younger than me my actual age and she was cool with it and we dated for several months.

My decision is to lie online. Online the girl is already 1 point lower in looks than her picture, and if you limit yourself to 35+ women which is the group that is interested in my age group, then you really don't have much of a selection. And as we know it, online dating is a number's game.

In real life game, perhaps push for a physical commitment as soon as possible before revealing your real age. The classical technique is to reveal your age after you have sex. But what I am talking about is as soon as you can - extended hand holding, physical banter, kissing, etc. as soon as possible. If a girl is already attracted to you physically instead of gauging you as a whole package she will backwards rationalize that she's dating George Clooney lol.

This. Women on dating sites are picky and more likely to screen you out for age. If you could get matched with them or you met them in RL, they would object less. Eharmony for example seems to really screen and want to match you with the female version of yourself - same age +/- 3 years. These sites have sold out to the egalitarian model. Nonetheless, I've gotten girls 7-12 years younger interested in me on Eharmony and Match. But if you're just crusin' for poon, make life easier for yourself and pick a younger age. Late 20s is the best age to be banging on all fronts - from 18 to 40. I made up a FB page and subtracted 7 years from age for the tinder app so I could be matched exclusively with 21-29yos. I look several years younger, feel younger, and thus can easily pass for this age group. Its the age group of women I feel more comfortable with, and more in common with. Otherwise, the women in my age group (30s) are a tragedy, both physically and emotionally, and are not on my frequency.

[SomeFcksGiven]

Culturally, it's somewhat telling about the age we live in where virtually every form of human relationship is pushed to be accepted and even heralded as heroic.. gay couples, interracial couples, trans, cis.. pan.. whatever the fuck label du jour the PC crowd comes up with, yet large age differences are still viewed as "creepy" and met with repulsion by the "tolerant" types

[SomeFcksGiven]

(12-18-2015 08:56 AM)Dino Wrote:  

You have passive aggressiveness down to a science. Now if you could transfer that knowledge to how you interact with women you would not need to lie about age, occupation, etc. Focus on self improvement so you are attractive to your target audience no matter your age. Time stops for no one. Not even for you losers who take swings at me for fucking milfs. Keep lying to yourself and chasing your own tails if you want the same low quality results. But hey you can always use the Internet to connect with other like minded losers.

Merry Christmas cock suckers.

You threw an unprovoked jab at everyone is this thread, then get butthurt when there's blowback? I'd expect this behavior on an SJW forum, not RooshV

[Dino]

(12-18-2015 10:32 AM)SomeFcksGiven Wrote:  

(12-18-2015 08:56 AM)Dino Wrote:  

You have passive aggressiveness down to a science. Now if you could transfer that knowledge to how you interact with women you would not need to lie about age, occupation, etc. Focus on self improvement so you are attractive to your target audience no matter your age. Time stops for no one. Not even for you losers who take swings at me for fucking milfs. Keep lying to yourself and chasing your own tails if you want the same low quality results. But hey you can always use the Internet to connect with other like minded losers.

Merry Christmas cock suckers.

You threw an unprovoked jab at everyone is this thread, then get butthurt when there's blowback? I'd expect this behavior on an SJW forum, not RooshV

You argue your point like an overweight keyboard jockey in his moms basement. Blowback? Strong words from an out of work piss ant, also smells of closet homosexuality. Go fuck yourself. While your at it tell yourself you are 10 years younger and see if it makes it any easier to shove your own cock up your hairy asshole. I'm just kidding. Merry Christmas my brother.

[gandt]

The first thing that comes to mind for me when reading this thread is "what would an older successful guy who is fucking top quality women say?"

There would be no qualifying of game of any sort, which brings me to two immediate options:

1) Completely dismiss

Her: How old are youuuuuu?

You: 47, tell me more about that time you... (took 3 cocks at once, went to south america, etc...)

*Spit out such a fast answer that it shows you could care less about the topic to even give it a second's thought. She will buy into your frame. It's when you start getting worried about what she will think that she becomes weirded out.

2) Completely re-frame (some great examples already mentioned above)

Her: How old are you?

You: I'm turning 69 tonight so it's convenient we just met

You: Aw, you're nervous. That's adorable.

You: The perfect age to show an innocent/inexperience girl like you a few things...

My favorite one mentioned above was "Old enough to bend you over my knee and give you a good spanking if I need to". I do not like the line where you say: "old enough not to get involved with superficial bla bla bla" seems like you are trying to qualify too much.

My two cents.