[XII]

Windom Earle:
Do you see how many men's lives are ruined from false rape accusations?

Why put yourself in that situation? If a girl is hesitant send the two-minded bitch home and jerk off furiously. Text an ex. Get an escort. Who cares; no amount of caution is enough in this legal atmosphere.

Sincerely,
BOB

[cascadecombo]

(12-16-2015 03:32 AM)XII Wrote:  

Windom Earle:
Do you see how many men's lives are ruined from false rape accusations?

Why put yourself in that situation? If a girl is hesitant send the two-minded bitch home and jerk off furiously. Text an ex. Get an escort. Who cares; no amount of caution is enough in this legal atmosphere.

Sincerely,
BOB

Do you see how many men don't get laid from a fear of every girl screaming a false rape accusation?

Girls want you to push for it, and the ones who don't make it very clear that they do not. Pushing =/= forcing. Guys need to use proper judgement above all else.

[PapayaTapper]

(12-14-2015 01:39 AM)Sargent17 Wrote:  

(12-14-2015 01:01 AM)Windom Earle Wrote:  

I recently applied everything as per my advice in my post in this thread.

I even got, "if you don't stop, I'm gonna scream."

I stopped momentarily, but later regrouped and got the bang.

As we were properly getting into it, she was literally fucking me - and asking me to fuck her harder.

If I had've fallen into her frame, i most definitely wouldn't have fucked her, and probably would not have the chance to in the future.

Take the bull by the horns lads.

Windom, I'm skeptical about using this technique on the girls here in the feminist hell hole that is the Bay Area. I don't want to get entangled in rape accusations. It is proving to be a fine line to find out, within 2 hours of meeting a girl, how much of the feminist pill she has swallowed.

Protecting ones self from this danger is a valid concern and worthwhile discussion. (see thread link)

Keep in mind that most "false" rape allegations are by women who the guy thought was completely willing.

NO ONE is advocating rape here, but the fact of the matter is that many women will verbally indicate unwillingness for a number of reasons even when they actually do want to have sex.

It's been said before: You have to learn find the line between "display reluctance" and real unwillingness. It's art more than science so tread carefully

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(11-19-2015 01:07 AM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  

(11-19-2015 12:44 AM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  



Actually yes...I am having a system installed next week for several reasons. Admittedly one is to defend myself from possible false rape charges as the overwhelming majority of girls I bang are at my house, pulled from local bars. I have too much at risk if one of them decides I didnt fuck her right, disrespected her, cant admit she intentionally cheated on her BF. etc . My corporate attorney referred me to a criminal defense attorney and he strongly advocated this. He is currently on retainer with a local pro sports team and this one of the risk management techniques he recommends to athletes and high net worth individuals. (He has stories!) The caveat is that as long as the recording is never made public or used for commercial purposes without everyone's permission it's perfectly legal.

At his suggestion I'meven posting signs on my property grounds and one in my bedroom (nicely framed of course)

Edit: The attorney actually provides his clients with a "Sexual Consent Agreement" that he advises everyone have the chicks sign (especially the pro athletes...he acknowledges that it's not realistic for an average non athlete/ celebrity type) It's pretty funny as it's essentially a detailed "menu" form where the chick checks off what she's willing to do:

Oral sex (give)..."check"
Oral sex (receive)..."check"
Receive ejaculate in mouth..."check"
Anal......................"check"
Group sex..............."check"
Etc, etc....

He teaches a whole protocol where the guy copies her ID. There's even a questionnaire about age, number sex partners, etc....and bitches do all of it just to get some pro/fame cock.

He says the clients that follow his protocol, get this signed, in advance (of course), and on video, never have a problem. The ones that don't end up paying "hush money" fairly regularly though it never hits the press

[vinman]

(12-16-2015 03:24 AM)XII Wrote:  

"Vinman": I give zero fucks about your e-reputation. This guy asked about a specific girl in a specific situation.

I answered because I have plenty of experience with this situation; many girls from Tinder just want to sleep over the first night and give you a blowjob, then the next time you see them for "dinner" it becomes a 4-hour fuckfest. That's just how it is. A girl needs to be comfortable with you and it often doesn't happen the first night.

I answered with the privilege of experience because I have a shitload of it. What do you have to offer here? I ask you again; do you pull girls off Tinder, or do you just accumulate e-points and sit on your ass away from the real world?

My response was posted above, and the OP thanked me for it.

[XII]

(12-13-2015 07:15 PM)Cobra Wrote:  

(12-12-2015 09:44 PM)XII Wrote:  

(12-12-2015 05:45 PM)vinman Wrote:  

(12-12-2015 01:15 AM)XII Wrote:  

Proceed as planned, sleepovers lead to sex eventually.

A lot of girls don't fuck on the first date. Any guy with experience knows this. Do you have experience dating girls or do you just spend your theorizing about it on the internet?

I've met vinman. Did you read his posts or just theorizing about him from one post? I'll be easy on you since you do have one meetup rep.

I am just now reading this. LOL, taking it "easy" on me. You are a Pakistani accountant on an internet forum and you call yourself "Cobra." What're you gonna do? My taxes?

[blck]

Cuddle and to want to fuck ?

I think this belong to here:

[Cobra]

(12-17-2015 03:26 AM)XII Wrote:  

(12-13-2015 07:15 PM)Cobra Wrote:  

(12-12-2015 09:44 PM)XII Wrote:  

(12-12-2015 05:45 PM)vinman Wrote:  

(12-12-2015 01:15 AM)XII Wrote:  

Proceed as planned, sleepovers lead to sex eventually.

A lot of girls don't fuck on the first date. Any guy with experience knows this. Do you have experience dating girls or do you just spend your theorizing about it on the internet?

I've met vinman. Did you read his posts or just theorizing about him from one post? I'll be easy on you since you do have one meetup rep.

I am just now reading this. LOL, taking it "easy" on me. You are a Pakistani accountant on an internet forum and you call yourself "Cobra." What're you gonna do? My taxes?

Yawn. Nice job flexing your keyboard muscles. I'm sure the XII directly represents your age as your posts come off akin to a 12 year old whining.

I'm not Pakistani, I'm Indian. Since you knew this, I'm sure you're using it as a racial epithet. Do you have issues with Pakistanis? Feel free to reveal your background. I at least assume you're a man but every second you wait the forum membership is doubting that.

My Cobra venom is deadly and directly eviscerates girlish comments like "lol" because they're gay when used in the wrong context. It also is useful in slaying trolls.

Is this you?

[TheBMan]

(12-14-2015 01:14 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  

An alternative way of overcoming LMR I've used successfully is what I call "high school virgin game". I wrote about it in another thread.

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Basically it's something I discovered by accident way back in high school. There were times when I was making out with a chick that wouldn't let me take her pants or even panties off. With a raging stiffy hard enough to scratch glass once I realized I wasn't getting the pussy I just change tactics and put her hand on my shank. At that point I just wanted to jizz somewhere other than in my own hand I didn't care if it was her hand, mouth, box, ass, tits, whatever.

She might not let you pull her pants/panties off but she can't stop you from pulling yours off. Almost every single time I'd at least get a hand job out of the deal.

More often that not once she's comfortable touching your meat puppet first, it will get her turned on and a bj and even the pussy follows.

I was going to say something very similar - my experience has been that when you pull out your hard dick girls never ignore it. Put your hand on it and say something like - "can you help me take care of this" or "look how hard you made me" or "do you mind if I take care of myself" then start jerking it.

[PapayaTapper]

(12-17-2015 08:57 PM)TheBMan Wrote:  

(12-14-2015 01:14 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  

An alternative way of overcoming LMR I've used successfully is what I call "high school virgin game". I wrote about it in another thread.

thread-49481...pid1090766

Basically it's something I discovered by accident way back in high school. There were times when I was making out with a chick that wouldn't let me take her pants or even panties off. With a raging stiffy hard enough to scratch glass once I realized I wasn't getting the pussy I just change tactics and put her hand on my shank. At that point I just wanted to jizz somewhere other than in my own hand I didn't care if it was her hand, mouth, box, ass, tits, whatever.

She might not let you pull her pants/panties off but she can't stop you from pulling yours off. Almost every single time I'd at least get a hand job out of the deal.

More often that not once she's comfortable touching your meat puppet first, it will get her turned on and a bj and even the pussy follows.

I was going to say something very similar - my experience has been that when you pull out your hard dick girls never ignore it. Put your hand on it and say something like - "can you help me take care of this" or "look how hard you made me" or "do you mind if I take care of myself" then start jerking it.

I never said anything if they didn't. I just pulled it out while making out and put their hand on it. The vast majority of the time they just went with it then got into it.

[Windom Earle]

(12-12-2015 02:17 AM)Windom Earle Wrote:  

Sounds like you didn't escalate hard enough physically.

By escalate, I mean push the interaction toward sex until you're actually fucking her, or she protests and says "I'm leaving" (which sometimes is still just LMR by the way, and can be overcome).

If she is giggling at your advances and doesn't have a morose, deer-in-headlights look - then it's merely a case of overpowering her physically. It sounds predatory, but that is what the situation dictates, and more to the point - what she wants. Feigned LMR is a chick's way of testing your will and your manhood.

So it's your choice, capitulate (holding a faint hope of being "allowed" to fuck her sometime in the future), or take control and beat that pussy up like it never has been before, bringing about admiration and respect as she exclaims "I've never been that wet before."

It's a fine line (since most likely you'll get some "no's" thrown in there), but it's all about gauging her behaviour rather than what comes out of her mouth.

(12-14-2015 01:01 AM)Windom Earle Wrote:  

I recently applied everything as per my advice in my post in this thread.

I even got, "if you don't stop, I'm gonna scream."

I stopped momentarily, but later regrouped and got the bang.

As we were properly getting into it, she was literally fucking me - and asking me to fuck her harder.

If I had've fallen into her frame, i most definitely wouldn't have fucked her, and probably would not have the chance to in the future.

Take the bull by the horns lads.

(12-16-2015 03:32 AM)XII Wrote:  

Windom Earle:
Do you see how many men's lives are ruined from false rape accusations?

Why put yourself in that situation? If a girl is hesitant send the two-minded bitch home and jerk off furiously. Text an ex. Get an escort. Who cares; no amount of caution is enough in this legal atmosphere.

Sincerely,
BOB

Read my posts consecutively; again if necessary (and we don't condone P4P by the way).

You will note that a certain amount of awareness is at play, in terms of social/sexual cues.

For those on the retarded side of the scale, well, they're not going to get it and probably never will. For those of us with our feet grounded in normalcy, I'm pretty confident that we're doing ok. But thanks for your concern all the same.

Also, you posit that false rape accusations stem from when a bang occurs after intense LMR. This is a flawed argument. All things being equal, false rape accusations can occur after what is presumably consensual sex, as much as it can after piercing through extreme levels of LMR (equally consensual I might add).

False rape accusations occur for the following reasons:

- chick sees an opportunity to hit pay dirt (due to celebrity status, etc); or
- chick sees an opportunity for attention whoring, due to her crazy nature.

The latter, at times, cannot be accounted for (depending on how well you know the chick, or your intuition for crazy).

Us mere mortals use our judgement and discretion and apply it in the real world to achieve what we want - sex with desirable chicks.

Your no-sex-on-first-night-sleepover-that-later-put-out-chicks, I'm going to hazard a guess and say they deviate between the 5 and the 6.5 range?

Anything more on the hotness scale, and you've done your dash. You get one opportunity to show your worth as a man (i.e. escalate sexually). After that, the emotion she felt for you on the night is quickly forgotten, and she has focussed her efforts on other endeavours via the magic of social media which is fuelling her insatiable desire for attention.

If you have a chick on your bed; and I reiterate - that isn't withdrawing into a frigid shell, then you have a willing participant whichever way you slice it.

It's how you negotiate those volatile waters that separates you from the men and the boys.

[Windom Earle]

And he's banned...

[BadgerHut]

(12-14-2015 12:19 AM)Sargent17 Wrote:  

Update: I nexted this chick after she mentioned that she had a lot of tinder dates lined up in our text conversation when i was trying to schedule a meet up again. I guess she just wants attention from guys chasing her. It goes to show how important the time you have her with you is. Once they leave you, they seem to have unlimited options and it's next to impossible to get them to meet you again.

Huge red flag if she brings up the topic of dating other guys with you. Either a shit test or she's got no respect for you.

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It's definitely hurting. I need to reread Bang and Daybang and start lurking around this forum more often now that I am done with my semester. Thanks for those links vinman.

I feel you there, we all know what that was like. Try to look at it like a long process - like lifting weights, you don't get big results the first month, and some exercises won't work for you.

Just remember that the better you get at cutting bad leads, like this one, the more time and opportunity you'll have for things that will work out!

[polar]

For guys starting out, you can add one quick move with LMR or those ambiguous escalations.

After doing something like unbuttoning her pants, taking her shirt off, etc. go take a piss, grab something quick from the other room, etc.

If she bundles up as soon as you step out, you might want to take the escalation a little easier and push for another date soon. If she's still undressed, messed up hair, etc. when you come back, carry on.

And always get a good night text!

[Latan]

(12-24-2015 01:49 PM)polar Wrote:  

For guys starting out, you can add one quick move with LMR or those ambiguous escalations.

After doing something like unbuttoning her pants, taking her shirt off, etc. go take a piss, grab something quick from the other room, etc.

If she bundles up as soon as you step out, you might want to take the escalation a little easier and push for another date soon. If she's still undressed, messed up hair, etc. when you come back, carry on.

And always get a good night text!

From my experience, letting a woman time to think about having sex or not (especially on a first date) is counter productive.
She'll think about been seen as a slut, how she forgot to take the pill, the fact she didn't shave this morning, ...
Well, I don't live in a country where false rape accusations are common place, so I guess it's a different context.