[Svoboda]

Is there a case to be made that the male population of Russia (or any Former CCCP) has gamed women to such an extent that these women are already happy with a guy that isn't a complete drunk?

I was gonna answer Argentina, but come to think of it, most of the players I've seen there and met from there aren't really average Argentinians. They are the "palermo" crowd, the "I travel to Europe" crowd, the "I go skiing in Bariloche" crowd. Though I do think they are major players.

Highest average player level must be some country where the average guy would be a major player when he's in another country.

[Travesty]

(12-11-2015 11:32 PM)Merenguero Wrote:  

Travesty, I agree with you about some the guys on the coast getting many quality girls through social circle, but I have a question for you. If you put those same guys in Miami Beach completely cold, to do cold approaches during the day in South Beach, how do you think most of them would do?

I think the surfer, dirtbiker, MMA, music guys I speak about that are again often very good looking and have some family money probably wouldn't fair so well if you dropped them in Miami on a weekend and you said go do approaches.

I bet if you forced them to on a reality TV show or something they would get more dates than you would think.

I also think if they were forced to move for 3 months or more from what I hear at least in Miami there is more of a surplus of women and college girls floating around, tourists, young models coming to town etc... and the social circles are not as tight. So I think these guys coming from Southern California would integrate better over time. In fact if you dropped a SoCal coastal player in about any American city for 3 months or more to adapt I think he would do better than anyone else from America being relocated permanently except Miami guys. SoCal guys just have great clown game and large amount of well calibrated bravado while also being laid back with a positive demeanor. Compared to the bravado of Texans, Oklahomans, Louisiannians and so on which are often too cartoonish and over the top, so the girls see them as a character, rather than the asshole they want to bang. Southern Californians are pretty image conscious so they are pretty self aware about social cues.

Also isn't being a white, tan, blue eyed, All-American California guy with some height not in as high as supply in a place like Miami that has so many Latinos? That mixed with what I have heard are much better night life ratios I think they would do okay, although not nearly as well as a Miami guy that can speak Spanish, has style, and can dance.

For a weekend or a week on a bang mission they wouldn't do as well a Miami guy coming out to SoCal to try to bang a chick. I am sure Miami guys win on being both smoother, more worldly, and on style points. Californians are often lazy on style and a little kooky. They also think traveling consists of Cabo San Lucas, Hawaii, and Vegas. Many have never been east of the Mississippi. They often think SoCal is the best place on earth, why ever leave.

[Merenguero]

(12-12-2015 04:31 PM)Travesty Wrote:  

(12-11-2015 11:32 PM)Merenguero Wrote:  

Travesty, I agree with you about some the guys on the coast getting many quality girls through social circle, but I have a question for you. If you put those same guys in Miami Beach completely cold, to do cold approaches during the day in South Beach, how do you think most of them would do?

I think the surfer, dirtbiker, MMA, music guys I speak about that are again often very good looking and have some family money probably wouldn't fair so well if you dropped them in Miami on a weekend and you said go do approaches.

I bet if you forced them to on a reality TV show or something they would get more dates than you would think.

I also think if they were forced to move for 3 months or more from what I hear at least in Miami there is more of a surplus of women and college girls floating around, tourists, young models coming to town etc... and the social circles are not as tight. So I think these guys coming from Southern California would integrate better over time.

Also isn't be a white, tan, blue eyed, All-American California guy with some height not in as high as supply in a place like Miami that has so many Latinos? That mixed with what I have heard are much better night life ratios I think they would do okay, although not nearly as well as a Miami guy that can speak Spanish, has style, and can dance.

For a weekend or a week on a bang mission probably not as well as a Miami guy coming out to So Cal to try to bang a chick. I am sure Miami guys win on being both smoother, more worldly, and on style points. Californians are often lazy on style and a little kooky. They also think traveling consists of Cabo San Lucas, Hawaii, and Vegas. Many have never been east of the Mississippi. They often think SoCal is the best place on earth, why ever leave.

I think we're on the same page.

[Travesty]

(12-12-2015 01:07 AM)Caractacus Potts Wrote:  

(12-11-2015 06:24 PM)Travesty Wrote:  

Much of the rest of American men have average game, although there are some guys with relatively good looks, size, and height in places like Chicago, Minneapolis, and Texas my feeling from meeting them is they don't have the cold-hearted player gene nearly as often to go out and rack up tail.

You got me, Travesty. I live on the border of Chicago. I'm 6'2" tall. Former Marine and currently a Fire Fighter. I never had the desire to be "player." I always just wanted a cute, sweet, loving girl friend. Why was that so hard to find?

My cousin grew up in Minnesota, played Rugby at a Big 10 school and won his college's bench press competition against all of the other athletes. He is now married and has four kids. He only had a handful of girlfriends growing up.

Neither my cousin, my friends or myself grew up with the cold hearted player gene you mention. From a character standpoint I think that is a good thing. In regards to competing in the sexual arena nowadays, not so much...

I am from the Midwest and moved to SoCal young. I used to be like you SoCal got the best of me overtime and turned me into a more competitive and callous person when it comes to girls especially, but in the rest of life as well.

It is night and day talking to the many Southern Californians (natives especially) vs. a person from the Midwest.

Southern California people often are measuring you up to see if you are worth their time. They are just more cliquey and judge much more on image rather than personality.

[Dagnasty]

French guys are very good charmers everywhere I've seen.

I've never met a French expat that couldn't get laid.

[Dantes]

Americans are some of the best players in the world; however, there are a multitude of pathetic men with very little Game. American men largely keep professional PUAs in business, which speaks volumes of our society. In terms of the average guy, Brazilians tend to have the best Game.

[Anabasis to Desta]

No one mentioned the obvious common denominators among all the countries mentioned.

Warm coastal climates.

Italy, Spain, Greece, Brazil, Australia, Jamaica, Southern coastal California, Miami ...

I've noticed the combination of sun and beautiful beaches render men lazy, more laid back and able to just "chill". To be able to live in the moment. They are able to disregard intellectual and spiritual pursuits favoring the simpler things in life.

Joie de vivre guys. The ultimate pussy moistening agent.

I personally would rather have a conversation with a Brit, German or American from the Northeast than a person from these player countries/regions however.