Quote: (11-11-2015 06:01 AM)pamplonabull Wrote:
All,
I discovered game many years ago and I get two 9s a month because of it. Having said that, I try very hard, and travel internationally a fair bit.
I am almost 30, 181cm, 98kgs and 14% body fat. I am addicted to body building.
My confidence comes from my body, because I think I am only average looking. A plastic surgeon once told me I should get a nose job because my face was 10% too big for my face, but I didn't go ahead with it because I was a chicken!
My younger cousin has hit the night club scene recently and knows my reputation. He is keen to actively game, really hard. The problem is, he is as ugly as sin. My thoughts surrounding plastic surgery have changed over the years. I am now a big believer that if a man has been hit with the ugly stick, he should get whatever needs doing in his early 20s.
Should I recommend it, or at least tell him to think about it? It is easier said than done.
I reckon women would rate him a 4.
Cheers
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He is keen to actively game, really hard.
if I read correctly he's keen to "get girls" and not trying to become a model...
Short answer: no. Assuming he is universally 4 for every single woman on the planet, after studying and practicising game, the improved version of him won't stay as 4 - perhaps up to 6 or 7? Thank god this is how it works with men! After the initial 20 minutes with the target he won't stay as 6-7 in her eyes either thanks to the science of game: putting cosmetic surgeons out of business since Weber.
Long answer: no because male looks does not matter
in the final analysis. I am not talking about presentation/grooming/the way you carry yourself etc. I am talking about physical features like height or super asymetrical face etc. Great looks HELP for the first impression and thus make things easier (girls opening) however
one don't have to have it. It's not a pre-requisite, not a deal breaker.
Surely one can get fixed up to some extent in 2015 with surgeries such as face/nose/hair/leg length enhancement. (3 years) + (USD100K) = (3" taller version of you)!
But it is a bad way of investing one's resources such as time and money plus the risk of complications in some more involved surgeries.
Investing the time for reading and practising game; investing the money for in-field coaching from a decent/real PUA who can actually teach well, is much more efficient.
He won't look back at his physical shortcomings in a years time - obviously will still have the same face/height etc. but it'll just be out of his focus field.
This is a much discussed matter. Here is a link of a supposedly-true eye witness story; check out the 1st post, it's from a 1800-post moderator on another game forum:
Note that on the page they're trying to push ads. to actually see the page content hit F5 to reload page then hit ESC to stop loading page midway thus block out the ad popup script.
http://www.pick-up-artist-forum.com/met-...62802.html
...That post from moderator might be Internet tale.
...Sean Stephenson referenced therein and on many other pages might be Internet tale.
...but I have seen with my own eyes in multiple countries shitty looking guys picking up "hot" girls. Some I knew most of them I just saw in club or wherever. These were ordinary short guys, fat guys, old guys, bald guys so I know that
physical male appearance in the final analysis does not matter.
Just work on the basics, ensure he doesn't have bad teeth/clothes/shoes/skin/grooming/bad lifestyle and AFC habits. Most of these can be fixed without a big budget and certainly without cutting skin or breaking bones. You can teach him all these easily as you have practiced PUA yourself. Also don't tell him he looks like a 4 (in your eyes) just teach him male looks does not matter as long as the guy has PUA skills (natural or learned-and-internalized kind).
Good luck to the younger cousin and have fun with your upcoming wingman.