[Kenwood27]

I have been doing quite well with getting more phone numbers now but I have a problem. They don't return phone calls! I have followed Roosh's Bang book on how to leave a message but I'm getting no return calls back! Roosh says in his book that a lot of girls don't return calls but why is that? Why do girls give out their number if their not interested? One could say its for attention but for me after I leave a voicemail and they don't call back in a day, I just delete their number so I'm not giving them anymore attention aside from the initial call which they already knew was coming. Its hard to get to the "middle" game if I can't even get them on the phone. Any thoughts?

[twigman]

its the quality of the interaction before the phone number that is important

[Trotter]

Phone numbers really don't mean anything. Make the call, wait for the call back, delete the number and move on after a couple of days.

If they're not returning your calls at all then there's something else you need to work on for your game. What that is we don't know but there's clearly something not clicking there. Maybe you're not making enough of an impression and didn't demonstrate higher value. Maybe you're blowing it when you're leaving the messages. Just work on your game and find out where the flaw resides.

[Roosh]

What percentage are calling you back? How are you getting the phone number? How old are the girls you are dealing with?

This is a very common problem so don't sweat it, but the better job you do when you meet her, the more likely she will call back. As your game gets better you'll see more callbacks. Just keep at it.

[Kenwood27]

(01-27-2009 06:20 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

What percentage are calling you back? How are you getting the phone number? How old are the girls you are dealing with?

This is a very common problem so don't sweat it, but the better job you do when you meet her, the more likely she will call back. As your game gets better you'll see more callbacks. Just keep at it.

All the girls I've met has been through volunteer work at a soup kitchen. I only volunteer 2 hour shifts so I don't have a lot of time to talk to them but at the end of the shift i ask them if they would like hang out some other time and at the same time I hand them my cell phone and ask them to put their number in. The girls are all university of michigan students, young, around 18-20. Thanks for the advise, Rooch, it doesn't get get me down, I'm working at it!