[John Michael Kane]

Pathetic. I have a soft spot for the original, but this nonsense will not make me watch it. The original was great because Brad Pitt and all the other actors had great chemistry on screen, plus the script was funny. This new one is bound not to be funny, but a try-hard gurrrrrrrrrrrl power remake. Count me out.

[Burt Gummer]

With Ghostbusters rightfully taking so much shit is this still going to be made?

[stugatz]

well - keep in mind that if Ghostbusters 3 is the next Ishtar, they might pull the plug on anything that resembles it. I'm not sure if they've begun shooting yet.

[Geomann180]

(10-30-2015 08:28 PM)CleanSlate Wrote:  

More people would watch it if they just switched gears and made it into a cheesy porn movie.

So you're telling me this movie is not a porno-spoof about a group of 11 hot women who proceed to intricately plan to a rob an autistic, yet somehow good looking nerd (played by James Dean), of his virginity, despite his best efforts to herbivore and tend to his waifu garden?

G

[DaFonz]

The new trend by hollywood to further ruin classics : Sheboots

[Skull_Leader]

(10-30-2015 06:29 PM)WalterBlack Wrote:  

This film "Sucker Punch" died on its arse too:

With trailers and a cover like that, how could it NOT be good?
and then you watch the movie and...

[AnonymousBosch]

(06-24-2016 01:53 PM)Skull_Leader Wrote:  

With trailers and a cover like that, how could it NOT be good?

By only valuing its female characters when they act like men.

I have more contempt for the male nerd fantasy of empowered women even more than the feminist fantasy. The movie is basically a bunch of little girls play acting as boys and expecting the boys to applaud because they want to rub one out over them.

Truly horrible film, but intellectually-fascinating in what it revealed about both the filmmaker and his intended audience. I have a feeling it was one of the last Hollywood movies I ever bothered watching all the way through.

I mean, look at the big announcement over casting a new Lara Croft. Hollywood baits me with a young, pretty woman sending out sexual cues, then is just going to berate me and call me a sexist dinosaur for daring to objectify her sexually.

As such, I refuse to take the fantasy bait. Fuck Tomb Raider, and fuck the weird Beta and Gamma men who have to live out their fantasies of male empowerment through women. I simply seek out prettier, feminine women who enjoy being girls in the real world to date, who are far hotter than the average actress Hollywood expects me to fawn over.

[Belgrano]

^

I disagree.
Read this:

“Sucker Punch” or How to Make Monarch Mind Control Sexy

Quote:

Sucker Punch is an action fantasy thriller that promises its viewers two things: girls and explosions. And it delivers both. But behind the slur of short skirts and CGI effects hides a disturbing underlying story: Sucker Punch is about the life of a mind control slave who dissociates from reality to escape the trauma caused by abuse. This article looks at the hidden meaning and symbolism in Sucker Punch.

[weambulance]

(06-24-2016 02:28 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  

(06-24-2016 01:53 PM)Skull_Leader Wrote:  

With trailers and a cover like that, how could it NOT be good?

By only valuing its female characters when they act like men.

I have more contempt for the male nerd fantasy of empowered women even more than the feminist fantasy. The movie is basically a bunch of little girls play acting as boys and expecting the boys to applaud because they want to rub one out over them.

Truly horrible film, but intellectually-fascinating in what it revealed about both the filmmaker and his intended audience. I have a feeling it was one of the last Hollywood movies I ever bothered watching all the way through.

I still don't understand this common interpretation of the film.

How were the girls empowered? The action scenes were all very clear escapist fantasies with a very tenuous relationship to the real world.

In "real life", what did the girls actually accomplish? They stabbed Oscar Isaac and set a broom closet on fire, allowing a girl to make it out... except, did she really even get out? The bus driver being the same old man from the fantasy sequences suggests that, too, was unreal.

But suppose it was real, and she did escape. It's unclear if the other girls in the fantasy sequences participated in those events but in the real world, the girls were still almost completely powerless and only engineered the escape of a single girl by the rest sacrificing themselves. Who we thought was the main character was lobotomized to unresponsiveness, so she functionally died. Hardly empowering from where I'm sitting.

[EDantes]

I have a feeling that this and the "Roadhouse" remake will be scrapped if Ghostbusters tanks. Looks like they're starting a new trend of redoing classic films recast with female leads to appeal to the social justice fanbase.

[LeeEnfield303]

...still waiting for Saving Private Rhianna....

[AnonymousBosch]

(06-24-2016 03:18 PM)weambulance Wrote:  

I still don't understand this common interpretation of the film. How were the girls empowered? The action scenes were all very clear escapist fantasies with a very tenuous relationship to the real world.

I've wrote a detailed explanation for this, but the forum says I'm banned from posting.

Ok, this went through. I tried copying the message in but it doesn't work. It seems the forum has a certain set of 'Trigger Words' that automatically ban you from posting. This happened recently to me in a private message. Is there a list of what these words are somewhere?

[Leonard D Neubache]

(06-24-2016 07:45 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  

(06-24-2016 03:18 PM)weambulance Wrote:  

I still don't understand this common interpretation of the film. How were the girls empowered? The action scenes were all very clear escapist fantasies with a very tenuous relationship to the real world.

I've wrote a detailed explanation for this, but the forum says I'm banned from posting.

Ok, this went through. I tried copying the message in but it doesn't work. It seems the forum has a certain set of 'Trigger Words' that automatically ban you from posting. This happened recently to me in a private message. Is there a list of what these words are somewhere?

The entire premise of female empowerment is based entirely on the wholesale encouragement of epic...


Reality check. Even a female Fortune 500 CEO can have her teeth curbstomped out of her skull but a lowly mail room intern if she pushes him past the point of no return. So why not take that premise of fake empowerment to it's full conclusion and determine that being an imaginary badass in a fantasy world is more empowering than being a fake one in real life?

[EDantes]

(06-24-2016 06:27 PM)LeeEnfield303 Wrote:  

...still waiting for Saving Private Rhianna....

Jamie Bond

Rochelle "Rocky" Balboa

Joan Rambo

Goodsistas

The Godmother

Mad Maxine

The She-Wolf of Wall Street

Citizeness Kane

[LeeEnfield303]

Mad Maxine was just done, unfortunately.

[EDantes]

Now that I think about it, this could be a subtle way of sneaking pro-transgender themes into movies. Subtly implying that these remakes are the "post-op" versions of the original characters.

[Latinopan]

(06-24-2016 02:28 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  

(06-24-2016 01:53 PM)Skull_Leader Wrote:  

With trailers and a cover like that, how could it NOT be good?

By only valuing its female characters when they act like men.

I have more contempt for the male nerd fantasy of empowered women even more than the feminist fantasy. The movie is basically a bunch of little girls play acting as boys and expecting the boys to applaud because they want to rub one out over them.

Truly horrible film, but intellectually-fascinating in what it revealed about both the filmmaker and his intended audience. I have a feeling it was one of the last Hollywood movies I ever bothered watching all the way through.

I mean, look at the big announcement over casting a new Lara Croft. Hollywood baits me with a young, pretty woman sending out sexual cues, then is just going to berate me and call me a sexist dinosaur for daring to objectify her sexually.

As such, I refuse to take the fantasy bait. Fuck Tomb Raider, and fuck the weird Beta and Gamma men who have to live out their fantasies of male empowerment through women. I simply seek out prettier, feminine women who enjoy being girls in the real world to date, who are far hotter than the average actress Hollywood expects me to fawn over.

Sexy girls doing men stuff was a concept created to mix two ideas men like, actions hero and sexy women, before, the concept was more simple, action hero and damsel in distress, this was a idea based on novels and books with the same idea, knight fights his way kill the dragon and save the princess.

Then studios started to mix bit by bit, Cat woman in the 60s started the trend of action woman in catsuits doing action stuff but she was still side character, then Charlies Angels pushed harder by eliminating the super hero theme and instead adding 3 young women working as private investigator.


Behind the Camera: The Unauthorized Story of 'Charlie's Angels'



Vice President ABC Standards and Practices: The issue is nipples.

Aaron Spelling: Nipples?

Vice President ABC Standards and Practices: We're seeing nipples. Noticable, conspicuous nipples. We can't put nipples on our network.

Aaron Spelling: You're referring to the fact that Farrah sometimes doesn't wear a bra?

Vice President ABC Standards and Practices: We counted seven episodes and nineteen instances in which nipples were clearly apparent.



Eventually studios started to more and more mix of this concept, Marie in Indiana Jones was close to this, then Xena Warrior Princess in the 90s blew it up the chart, watch the show and is technically a show of women in leather bikinis fighting with swords.



At the same time animation, mostly Japaneses animation introduced two new concepts, one was "bridge bunnies", sexy women working on a bridge spaceship.

Definition

Quote:

Someone other than The Captain needs to actually run the Cool Starship, which is where the Bridge Bunnies come in. They're a few young, attractive twentysomething women who practically live on The Bridge....

This is an example of Bridge Bunnies


The next one is Anime Harem, technically a male character is put in a situation where is is surrounded with two or more attractive female characters.

Over years the idea of fighting hot girl with guns in catsuit just got more and more frequent, video games, and movies started doing more and more.









And guess who did a video about Sucker Punch being sexist?

[AnonymousBosch]

^ Fuck me dead. I actually agree with Anita here. I guess a broken clock....

The difference is she thinks what she's seeing is Alpha Male Sexism where it's just Blue Pill Beta / Gamma Inexperience With Women.

I'd better figure out a way to post my thoughts on this dumb movie so you can see where I'm coming from.

[Goldin Boy]

(06-24-2016 08:07 PM)EDantes Wrote:  

(06-24-2016 06:27 PM)LeeEnfield303 Wrote:  

...still waiting for Saving Private Rhianna....

Jamie Bond

Rochelle "Rocky" Balboa

Joan Rambo

Goodsistas

The Godmother

Mad Maxine

The She-Wolf of Wall Street

Citizeness Kane

Those all sound like the titles of potential porno spoof movies to me

They recently rebooted one of my favorite movies Duel with two female "protagonists"

They went from this(when Spielberg still had the juice):

to this:

WB both but totally unbelievable, women tend to be slowest, most conservative drivers on the road.

Re: Sheboot of Ocean's 11, no fucks will given. It will flop. Producers/Bullock will blame "patriarchy". The end.

[LeeEnfield303]

Fuck, I love Duel. A goddamned classic. I first saw it as a young sprout in the 70s and it made a huge impression on me. Loved the endgame.


I'm now officially depressed. Time to find some Drambuie.

[Latinopan]

(06-25-2016 02:32 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  

^ Fuck me dead. I actually agree with Anita here. I guess a broken clock....

The difference is she thinks what she's seeing is Alpha Male Sexism where it's just Blue Pill Beta / Gamma Inexperience With Women.

I'd better figure out a way to post my thoughts on this dumb movie so you can see where I'm coming from.

Is a fantasy of what men want in a woman, is not that men want women who will go fighting hand-to-hand combat but is more about loyalty, Sucker Punch is heavily influenced on Anime, the core of the idea is a man having the loyalty of a woman or better several women ex: Charlie has complete loyalty from his Angels, if you watch the Anime section of Netflix and watch any show there you can see the same theme.

Men created fantasies just like women create theirs, if Snyder want to create a movies with sexy young women wearing lingerie and carrying guns and shooting zombies, killing a dragon, and defeating a giant Samurai monster then he should, just like women create 50 Shade Of Grey where a awkward young girls can make a billionaire go crazy for her.

[username]

(06-25-2016 03:50 PM)LeeEnfield303 Wrote:  

Fuck, I love Duel. A goddamned classic. I first saw it as a young sprout in the 70s and it made a huge impression on me. Loved the endgame.

I just watched Duel after it was mentioned here. Never heard of it before this thread. Good movie.

[R Smoov]

Not going to watch it.

Ignore feminist shit and you will be okay.

[Cr33pin]

They have finilized the cast for the block buster movie
Adding the strawng and independent Mindy Kaling

[weambulance]

Also "Awkwafina", an asian rapper with songs like "My Vag", "Queef", and "Flu Shot". Sounds like a great talent.

Sandra Bullock (52), Cate Blanchett (47), Anne Hathaway (A haggard 33), Rihanna (Looks like the predator), and Helena Bonham Carter (50) are the others so far.

Nothing like a cast full of post-wall women to get me excited for a movie.