[Mercenary]

(02-05-2017 04:06 PM)BrewDog Wrote:  

I've found in life that educated people don't believe in illogical nonsense.

Try the NoFap challenge.
Main thread here: (over 100 pages)

NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious

thread-12879.html


See if you can last 90 days without sex and without jerking it 1 single time, with nothing but pure educated sensible logic.

[debeguiled]

(02-05-2017 04:06 PM)BrewDog Wrote:  

I've found in life that educated people don't believe in illogical nonsense.

This is a passive aggressive ad hominem.

You don't accuse people of being bad people, you just exclude them from the group of good people.

[Lunostrelki]

(02-05-2017 04:06 PM)BrewDog Wrote:  

I've found in life that educated people don't believe in illogical nonsense.

This is a materialist viewpoint, which ultimately has not helped anyone except communist regimes. With faith in divine actors forming the moral and spiritual backbone of humanity, science and engineering can still advance; without it, society and family fall apart and leads to things like the SJW epidemic we are now experiencing.

[BrewDog]

(02-05-2017 11:08 PM)Lunostrelki Wrote:  

(02-05-2017 04:06 PM)BrewDog Wrote:  

I've found in life that educated people don't believe in illogical nonsense.

This is a materialist viewpoint, which ultimately has not helped anyone except communist regimes. With faith in divine actors forming the moral and spiritual backbone of humanity, science and engineering can still advance; without it, society and family fall apart and leads to things like the SJW epidemic we are now experiencing.

I need to believe in a Satan to lead a moral life? If there's no bogeyman to take me to damnation, then I can't be a good person?

I've never stolen anything in my life. I didn't need the threat of a devil to prevent me from fucking people over.

[SamuelBRoberts]

(02-05-2017 04:06 PM)BrewDog Wrote:  

I've found in life that educated people don't believe in illogical nonsense.

Not to drag this too off-topic, but if you live in the west, you've found no such thing. Just go to any college or university in your city and you'll see massive numbers of highly educated people who believe all kinds of stupid nonsense: body-positivity, political correctness, multiculturalism, etc. etc. etc... You can even find a bunch these days that believe that men are actually women, and women are actually men.


As for OP's question, I'm not sure about Satan, but my ideas of what's possible and what isn't underwent a radical alteration on November 8th last year. We now live in a world where Donald Trump is president. Is that any weirder than an evil, nigh-omnipotent being?

[BrewDog]

(02-06-2017 02:56 AM)SamuelBRoberts Wrote:  

(02-05-2017 04:06 PM)BrewDog Wrote:  

I've found in life that educated people don't believe in illogical nonsense.

Not to drag this too off-topic, but if you live in the west, you've found no such thing. Just go to any college or university in your city and you'll see massive numbers of highly educated people who believe all kinds of stupid nonsense: body-positivity, political correctness, multiculturalism, etc. etc. etc... You can even find a bunch these days that believe that men are actually women, and women are actually men.

Yet I don't see those people as educated. Perhaps they have schooling, but the two things are not the same.

[kiwi12]

(02-05-2017 04:14 PM)Mercenary Wrote:  

(02-05-2017 04:06 PM)BrewDog Wrote:  

I've found in life that educated people don't believe in illogical nonsense.

Try the NoFap challenge.
Main thread here: (over 100 pages)

NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious

thread-12879.html


See if you can last 90 days without sex and without jerking it 1 single time, with nothing but pure educated sensible logic).

I find it hilarious, that Brewdog choose to ignore this superb post(which destroys his "logic").

[BrewDog]

(02-06-2017 04:57 AM)kiwi12 Wrote:  

I find it hilarious, that Brewdog choose to ignore this superb post(which destroys his "logic").

I didn't find it interesting enough to click on it.

It makes me happy that you found some sort of humor at my reluctance to click on a link about jacking off. You're welcome.

[RBerkley]

In the Biblical days, the ancient city of Sodom & Gomorrah was influenced by Satan, so yes, there is Satan who influences the negative in the world. Feminism & homosexuality only magnified the presence of Satan's existence.

God didn't want men to become homosexuals & manginas. God didn't want women to become lesbians, man-haters, and baby aborters.

Satan deceives the natural order to pervert what is God's way of life.

[BrewDog]

(02-06-2017 05:28 AM)RBerkley Wrote:  

In the Biblical days, the ancient city of Sodom & Gomorrah was influenced by Satan, so yes, there is Satan who influences the negative in the world. Feminism & homosexuality only magnified the presence of Satan's existence.

God didn't want men to become homosexuals & manginas. God didn't want women to become lesbians, man-haters, and baby aborters.

Satan deceives the natural order to pervert what is God's way of life.

The Creator of the universe has no control over these things? It seems that God is impotent to control his own creation.

[infowarrior1]

(02-06-2017 05:31 AM)BrewDog Wrote:  

(02-06-2017 05:28 AM)RBerkley Wrote:  

In the Biblical days, the ancient city of Sodom & Gomorrah was influenced by Satan, so yes, there is Satan who influences the negative in the world. Feminism & homosexuality only magnified the presence of Satan's existence.

God didn't want men to become homosexuals & manginas. God didn't want women to become lesbians, man-haters, and baby aborters.

Satan deceives the natural order to pervert what is God's way of life.

The Creator of the universe has no control over these things? It seems that God is impotent to control his own creation.

This causes it make sense:
http://christianthinktank.com/victor.pdf

In the beginning Mankind had charge over creation. But because of the fall they were deposed from their office and an administration of Angels were put in their place.

One sees a glimpse of this in the book of Daniel:
http://biblehub.com/nasb/daniel/10.htm

And the book of Job when God gathered all the spirits that ruled creation under his Aegis including Satan for a council meeting.

And even Psalm 82 when he talked to "Gods'' called Elohim in Hebrew. Also the term Elohim is used of the Spirit of Samuel when he was raised up by the Witch of Endor(1 Samuel 28)

Deception, Lex Talonis and cursing are all legitimate form of judicial actions that can be undertaken by those Angels because mankind is fallen and therefore by the very nature of their corrupt nature this could continue on and on.


Also God cannot simply overthrow those powers including Satan without legitimate cause lest he get accused justly of being arbitrary and given his character that demands that he be just,he must find a way to redeem a remnant of mankind whilst being just as well as overthrow the spiritual powers that have turned corrupt.

However God via his people Israel and the birth of the Messiah outmaneuvered those heavenly powers and they committed a crucial mistake. Killing Jesus not only ensued that God's justice is satisfied since the sins of all those who believe in him are punished in Jesus but that killing an innocent man stripped them of all legitimacy.

Also those who are Christian cannot be cursed by Satan because by merit of their faith and Christs Blood the believer is innocent.

Hence sooner or later they will be thrown out of their position of Authority including Satan.

Satan is still currently God of this world. Meanwhile God is holding off overthrowing him until sufficient numbers of people are saved. Because when God overthrows Satan its going to be wrath on humans as well that are not saved.

God is only involved in this world because Christians pray to him otherwise its Satan's Turf. Prayer gives God "permission'' to act in certain ways that are not related to judgment.

[Mercenary]

(02-06-2017 04:57 AM)kiwi12 Wrote:  

(02-05-2017 04:14 PM)Mercenary Wrote:  

(02-05-2017 04:06 PM)BrewDog Wrote:  

I've found in life that educated people don't believe in illogical nonsense.

Try the NoFap challenge.
Main thread here: (over 100 pages)

NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious

thread-12879.html


See if you can last 90 days without sex and without jerking it 1 single time, with nothing but pure educated sensible logic).

I find it hilarious, that Brewdog choose to ignore this superb post(which destroys his "logic").

It's very easy to deny Satan exists and that education and logic is all you need in life, when you chose to never fight against one of the devil's most powerful enslaving addictions. Conquering any powerful addiction is often a battle against inner demons and powerful evil...but the challenge I proposed is one that almost all men worldwide can relate to.

Any man who makes it to 90 days without sex and without masturbating a single time, very quickly learns that some sort of spirtual faith is a way more powerful tool in that battle, than basic education or rational logic.

[BrewDog]

(02-06-2017 09:00 AM)infowarrior1 Wrote:  

God is only involved in this world because Christians pray to him otherwise its Satan's Turf. Prayer gives God "permission'' to act in certain ways that are not related to judgment.

I would be interested to see the stats of the number of children that survive cancer due to prayer as opposed to the survival rate of children that didn't pray or were the wrong religion.

I think you'll find that their survival rate is exactly the same.

[Mercenary]

(02-06-2017 11:33 AM)BrewDog Wrote:  

(02-06-2017 09:00 AM)infowarrior1 Wrote:  

God is only involved in this world because Christians pray to him otherwise its Satan's Turf. Prayer gives God "permission'' to act in certain ways that are not related to judgment.

I would be interested to see the stats of the number of children that survive cancer due to prayer as opposed to the survival rate of children that didn't pray or were the wrong religion.

I think you'll find that their survival rate is exactly the same.

Praying is not enough...you need to actually believe.

The placebo effect is the best proof in the world that pure faith in something, can be more powerful than medecine.


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[debeguiled]

Brewdog is singlehandedly taking Christianity to the mat.

I am going to like every post in this thread.

[BrewDog]

(02-06-2017 11:53 AM)Mercenary Wrote:  

Praying is not enough...you need to actually believe.

The placebo effect is the best proof in the world that pure faith in something, can be more powerful than medecine.

I'd rather have a surgeon with 12 years of university.

Any time someone survives something horrible, there's some human need to call it a miracle. The Lord personally came down and saved the guy because the dude was a Christian. But if he dies, then it's best explained by, "The Lord works in mysterious ways! Jesus wanted him in heaven!"

I'll take the doctor.

[Mercenary]

(02-06-2017 12:10 PM)BrewDog Wrote:  

(02-06-2017 11:53 AM)Mercenary Wrote:  

Praying is not enough...you need to actually believe.

The placebo effect is the best proof in the world that pure faith in something, can be more powerful than medecine.

I'd rather have a surgeon with 12 years of university.

Any time someone survives something horrible, there's some human need to call it a miracle. The Lord personally came down and saved the guy because the dude was a Christian. But if he dies, then it's best explained by, "The Lord works in mysterious ways! Jesus wanted him in heaven!"

I'll take the doctor.

Try the challenge I suggested.
There's 100 thread pages of testimony from established RVF memebers whose mental and physical health vastly improved from simply attempting that, even if they didn't succeed.

It's got nothing directly to do with any religion, and you've got nothing to lose.
It's a win-win situation no matter how it goes for you.

[BrewDog]

What is it with the religious obsession with jacking off?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...rbate.html
"Letter from Osama bin Laden detailing when jihadists should be allowed to masturbate is revealed"

[infowarrior1]

(02-06-2017 11:33 AM)BrewDog Wrote:  

(02-06-2017 09:00 AM)infowarrior1 Wrote:  

God is only involved in this world because Christians pray to him otherwise its Satan's Turf. Prayer gives God "permission'' to act in certain ways that are not related to judgment.

I would be interested to see the stats of the number of children that survive cancer due to prayer as opposed to the survival rate of children that didn't pray or were the wrong religion.

I think you'll find that their survival rate is exactly the same.

God is not a spiritual vending machine where one can simply pray and do a formula and he does it.

Its specifically those who are saved that can pray to him for help and even then he doesn't always save their lives or other peoples lives. Which is a good thing since God doesn't actually really need them to continue their work on this earth and they get to join him in paradise.

Only instances Christians are supernaturally saved is when God has them on a special mission that they must complete.

The only instances of miracles occurring in scripture is when it accompanies prophecy and the preaching of the Gospel. It is a temporary thing when the Gospel was breaking new ground like during the time of the Apostles come in mind which only seemed to last for a short time while they lived. It is specifically limited to certain geographic areas and people and never once did that alleviate the need for Science and Technology.

[Troller]

“God is on your side? Is He a Conservative? The Devil's on my side, he's a good Communist.”
―Joseph Stalin

[Lunostrelki]

(02-06-2017 01:36 AM)BrewDog Wrote:  

(02-05-2017 11:08 PM)Lunostrelki Wrote:  

(02-05-2017 04:06 PM)BrewDog Wrote:  

I've found in life that educated people don't believe in illogical nonsense.

This is a materialist viewpoint, which ultimately has not helped anyone except communist regimes. With faith in divine actors forming the moral and spiritual backbone of humanity, science and engineering can still advance; without it, society and family fall apart and leads to things like the SJW epidemic we are now experiencing.

I need to believe in a Satan to lead a moral life? If there's no bogeyman to take me to damnation, then I can't be a good person?

I've never stolen anything in my life. I didn't need the threat of a devil to prevent me from fucking people over.

Even if you don't personally believe, your moral and cultural standards are informed by the belief system that you're essentially describing as stupid. You may be a good person, and I know many atheists who I would say are better people, man for man, than a lot of believers—I don't doubt that. Over time the accumulation of disbelief leads to things like the Bolshevik revolution, destruction of stable gender roles, and other social mutations. One cell that doesn't abide by the set principles of the organism is a harmless aberration, but a clump of them is a tumor.

[John Michael Kane]

Whether you personally believe in Satan or not doesn't for a minute take away from the fact that John Podesta, the Clintons and their ilk all worship Lucifer and his ideals. Even if he didn't exist (I believe he does, as a practicing Catholic) the Clinton World see him as their master. We are engaged in a huge battle of good versus evil in the West. With all the pedophiles running around in globalist circles, you think for a moment they don't take Satan seriously? I think we should take him as seriously as our enemies do.

[BrewDog]

(02-06-2017 09:14 PM)Lunostrelki Wrote:  

One cell that doesn't abide by the set principles of the organism is a harmless aberration, but a clump of them is a tumor.

A hell of a lot of people have been slaughtered in the name of religion. Perhaps we need fewer Gods and the moralities that those religions impose upon their believers.

Speaking of which, humankind believes in around 3000 gods. Would you characterize yourself as monotheistic? You believe in just one god? If so, that means you don't believe in 2999 other gods. Which means that I believe in just one less god than you do.

[Filbert]

I've read somewhere that if you don't believe in Satan, he believes in you )).
I also read that if someone commits suicide, God invites Satan to take that person..

[FilipSRB]

(02-06-2017 09:00 AM)infowarrior1 Wrote:  

This causes it make sense:
http://christianthinktank.com/victor.pdf

In the beginning Mankind had charge over creation. But because of the fall they were deposed from their office and an administration of Angels were put in their place.

Just read this pdf, great stuff, thank you for sharing it.