Think of a girl as a female celebrity with a secret cocaine addiction.
Think of yourself as a regular guy who deals cocaine.
Cocaine, in this instance, represents what the girl secretly values, the things she secretly wishes to/do engage in but will disassociate with in public. A typical celeb is not going to openly declare her love for cocaine, neither will a regular girl tell you she watches porn, thinks dates are unnecessary, masturbates to spitroasts, being dominated, masculine direct guys, guys that make her feel weak and feminine, no-nonsense guys.
The task now is to make this celeb with a secret crack addiction know that you're a crack dealer. However you must do it in a way that's not intentionally directed at her or it'll trigger her defences. She must feel as if you're oblivious to the fact that she's reading the tells off you.
The task is to show a girl that you're a non-judgemental, sexual, unstifled, super-direct, dominant guy, without personalizing it to her. She must feel as if you're not trying hard to prove it to her, cos then she'll deny desiring these.
Land 1: When you walk on this land, there's a box of treasures right in the middle. It's been valued and it cost £1m. There's a great deal of security and the owner knows he's got a gem.
Land 2: You're trekking along a deserted path and inadvertently stumble on a ditch. It's got treasures in there and they seem to be worth a bit. You take two more steps and stumble on another. Nobody seems to know this place exists, there's no fanfare, nothing.
Obviously land 2. The value of land 2 is at the moment limitless. However with land 1, because of the obvious display of the treasures and the attention surrounding it,it's become too bait. No treasure hunter will go near it.
In the same manner, a girl must feel that she's stumbling on value, rather than it being presented to her. Mistake most guys make is they run game in a vacuum, rather than waiting for triggers. The girl knows he's trying to sell himself by putting his best foot forward so she plays the conventional role or resisting.
Compare with a guy who opens normally. However during the conversation, he displays high value on the triggers which the girl presents. It makes her feel she's the one provoking the value out of him and that there's much more to till. It delights her imagination and prompts her to seek for more 'value' to stumble on.
For example, a girl says she's from Czech Republic. I then pipe up with some enthusiasm and tell her how my best ex - who was also my 1st GF - was Czech, and I had oneitis with her. So much so that when we broke up, when I watched porn, i'd always search "tall skinny blonde haha".
Then I'd ask her if she watches porn. Her response is irrelevant here. What I've done is demonstrated, naturally, that I'm unstifled (no1 quality of a sex-worthy guy), don't really follow social conventions, I'm non-judgemental. However because you haven't said it in a vacuum, she won't get upset or act defensive. She feels that her bringing up 'czech' juggled your memory, and that you're just an open guy who has no 'pause'.
If you're not brave enough to use sexual topic, you could say how you used to gamble a lot before and you always played the Czech Republic league. How you lost a shit load of money once and stopped gambling cause of that. Then ask her if she gambles.
The idea here is the same, whatever the vice you choose to use. The point is to show the girl aspects of yourself you know she really desires – Unstifledness and a non-judgemental vibe, in this case. She also feels as if she triggered it because she provided you with the information (being Czech).
More examples:
Say I ask a girl for her name and she tells me, and I say my name is Roosh, she'll usually repeat it. I can –whilst still shaking her hand – accuse her of saying my name wrong.
"nah nah I find european girls can't say my name correctly. The 'oo' is soft. OK, Imagine having an orgasm and at the end saying rooooooosh [breathe it out with a cheeky laugh]...yeah, that’s how to pronounce my name"
It might sound hardcore on text but in delivery it really isnt. Again she has no reason to get mad. It's all stuff that seems natural and it was her mispronounciation that triggered it. However your boldness has registered. Your sexual forwardness has registered. Not in a flaunty way, but in a way that preserves her ego from the harshness of the content.
(If you want to know what reactions I get to these things, ask)
The bigger point of showing these qualities is that girls will not let you go past the level you've shown irl on text. At least, not quickly, If you started off at 0-50%, she'll hold you to it on text. Try and get bold on text when you've been conservative irl and she'll slap you with the dreaded 'who is this?'
Moving on.
At this point you don't want to be forward all the time. It's important there's a '0' to your '100', otherwise she'll see you as too intense or just a weirdo with no calibration. Talk about stuff happening around you, the environment, whatever. After a while (5mins tops), I ask 'are you textable/ whatsappable?'. Get the number, disappear. No saying about hanging out, dates, coffee, etc. Get the number for getting numbers sake.
Job done. You're 90% to the bang. On to text game.
Recap: What’s just happened there is you've displayed to a crack addict that you're a crack seller, without her shutting you down. Think about it. She even gave you her number. (Hint: when a girl gives you her number, she's saying show me more of the same things you've shown me already)
1st text: 'hey mandy, it's roosh. save my number on your phone x'
VERY DIRECT on purpose. We're showing dominance and straight communication. This is important because we want her to get used to this dynamic. "That's just Roosh", she tells herself. No nicknames, no recollection of night before (seeking rapport shit). Just a x perhaps to soften the harshness of the text.
I've already written long but the whole agenda on texting is to arouse her attention so much that she asks a question or shows a lot of interest. So early on we engage her skillfully (will say how in another post). When she invests, you say:
"It's long. I can't be bothered to type write now. Ask me later"
Still congruent to that direct personality, but she won't really be hurt by it because 'that’s just roosh'. It's at this point you've switched frames. Her intrigue in you will be stoked to the highest. Cut off all conversation at this point (just don’t text anymore) and let time do its work. The longer you don't text her, the higher your value grows. However she's still infatuated with this crack seller who's just too non-needy but direct. It's refreshing for her. Her pussi is soaked just by seeing your name on her texts. She begins to read your text history and remember your meeting, and sees the congruence. She won't resist.
What'll then happen?
Out of the blue she'll text you. It might be something mundane like 'I cut my wrist' to straight up ' hey how are you?'. What's she doing here? She's giving you textual proximity. A girl doesn't text first easily. There's been a lot of debating and palm-sweating before she hit 'send'. Take advantage of this primed state. Ignore whatever the content of her text was and take control.
You: 'Hey Mandy, where are you right now? I'll be home in 20m if you want to come and chill'
Game over. Crack dealer inviting crack addict. It's a wrap guys. If you played this game right, she'll give you 3 possible answers:
1) A genuine excuse why she can't make it, and offer for another day;
2) a flimsy excuse, which she;s HOPING that you dismiss and override. "I just started watching badboys2. do you like badboys 2?" or "I don't know what to wear"
3) sometimes, you'll just get asked where you live and your postcode etc.
She comes to your house, she's the one nervous because all the while you've shown you're a dominant, direct dude. Have fun like you're on your own, like you just won the lottery. Play music that you like, etc. She'll get to such a point of feendom, she'll either jump you or make it so easy for you. Reward her blowjob with compliments of her 'being feminine' but at the same time say it wasn't enough etc. She'll be a feen for life.
I'll answer question on the nuances in what I've said. Nothing outside this please. This is a complete formula. Tried and tested.
Think of yourself as a regular guy who deals cocaine.
Cocaine, in this instance, represents what the girl secretly values, the things she secretly wishes to/do engage in but will disassociate with in public. A typical celeb is not going to openly declare her love for cocaine, neither will a regular girl tell you she watches porn, thinks dates are unnecessary, masturbates to spitroasts, being dominated, masculine direct guys, guys that make her feel weak and feminine, no-nonsense guys.
The task now is to make this celeb with a secret crack addiction know that you're a crack dealer. However you must do it in a way that's not intentionally directed at her or it'll trigger her defences. She must feel as if you're oblivious to the fact that she's reading the tells off you.
The task is to show a girl that you're a non-judgemental, sexual, unstifled, super-direct, dominant guy, without personalizing it to her. She must feel as if you're not trying hard to prove it to her, cos then she'll deny desiring these.
How to communicate limitless value
Here's a scenario. Which land will have the most value to a treasure hunter:Land 1: When you walk on this land, there's a box of treasures right in the middle. It's been valued and it cost £1m. There's a great deal of security and the owner knows he's got a gem.
Land 2: You're trekking along a deserted path and inadvertently stumble on a ditch. It's got treasures in there and they seem to be worth a bit. You take two more steps and stumble on another. Nobody seems to know this place exists, there's no fanfare, nothing.
Obviously land 2. The value of land 2 is at the moment limitless. However with land 1, because of the obvious display of the treasures and the attention surrounding it,it's become too bait. No treasure hunter will go near it.
In the same manner, a girl must feel that she's stumbling on value, rather than it being presented to her. Mistake most guys make is they run game in a vacuum, rather than waiting for triggers. The girl knows he's trying to sell himself by putting his best foot forward so she plays the conventional role or resisting.
Compare with a guy who opens normally. However during the conversation, he displays high value on the triggers which the girl presents. It makes her feel she's the one provoking the value out of him and that there's much more to till. It delights her imagination and prompts her to seek for more 'value' to stumble on.
For example, a girl says she's from Czech Republic. I then pipe up with some enthusiasm and tell her how my best ex - who was also my 1st GF - was Czech, and I had oneitis with her. So much so that when we broke up, when I watched porn, i'd always search "tall skinny blonde haha".
Then I'd ask her if she watches porn. Her response is irrelevant here. What I've done is demonstrated, naturally, that I'm unstifled (no1 quality of a sex-worthy guy), don't really follow social conventions, I'm non-judgemental. However because you haven't said it in a vacuum, she won't get upset or act defensive. She feels that her bringing up 'czech' juggled your memory, and that you're just an open guy who has no 'pause'.
If you're not brave enough to use sexual topic, you could say how you used to gamble a lot before and you always played the Czech Republic league. How you lost a shit load of money once and stopped gambling cause of that. Then ask her if she gambles.
The idea here is the same, whatever the vice you choose to use. The point is to show the girl aspects of yourself you know she really desires – Unstifledness and a non-judgemental vibe, in this case. She also feels as if she triggered it because she provided you with the information (being Czech).
More examples:
Say I ask a girl for her name and she tells me, and I say my name is Roosh, she'll usually repeat it. I can –whilst still shaking her hand – accuse her of saying my name wrong.
"nah nah I find european girls can't say my name correctly. The 'oo' is soft. OK, Imagine having an orgasm and at the end saying rooooooosh [breathe it out with a cheeky laugh]...yeah, that’s how to pronounce my name"
It might sound hardcore on text but in delivery it really isnt. Again she has no reason to get mad. It's all stuff that seems natural and it was her mispronounciation that triggered it. However your boldness has registered. Your sexual forwardness has registered. Not in a flaunty way, but in a way that preserves her ego from the harshness of the content.
(If you want to know what reactions I get to these things, ask)
The bigger point of showing these qualities is that girls will not let you go past the level you've shown irl on text. At least, not quickly, If you started off at 0-50%, she'll hold you to it on text. Try and get bold on text when you've been conservative irl and she'll slap you with the dreaded 'who is this?'
Moving on.
At this point you don't want to be forward all the time. It's important there's a '0' to your '100', otherwise she'll see you as too intense or just a weirdo with no calibration. Talk about stuff happening around you, the environment, whatever. After a while (5mins tops), I ask 'are you textable/ whatsappable?'. Get the number, disappear. No saying about hanging out, dates, coffee, etc. Get the number for getting numbers sake.
Job done. You're 90% to the bang. On to text game.
Recap: What’s just happened there is you've displayed to a crack addict that you're a crack seller, without her shutting you down. Think about it. She even gave you her number. (Hint: when a girl gives you her number, she's saying show me more of the same things you've shown me already)
1st text: 'hey mandy, it's roosh. save my number on your phone x'
VERY DIRECT on purpose. We're showing dominance and straight communication. This is important because we want her to get used to this dynamic. "That's just Roosh", she tells herself. No nicknames, no recollection of night before (seeking rapport shit). Just a x perhaps to soften the harshness of the text.
I've already written long but the whole agenda on texting is to arouse her attention so much that she asks a question or shows a lot of interest. So early on we engage her skillfully (will say how in another post). When she invests, you say:
"It's long. I can't be bothered to type write now. Ask me later"
Still congruent to that direct personality, but she won't really be hurt by it because 'that’s just roosh'. It's at this point you've switched frames. Her intrigue in you will be stoked to the highest. Cut off all conversation at this point (just don’t text anymore) and let time do its work. The longer you don't text her, the higher your value grows. However she's still infatuated with this crack seller who's just too non-needy but direct. It's refreshing for her. Her pussi is soaked just by seeing your name on her texts. She begins to read your text history and remember your meeting, and sees the congruence. She won't resist.
What'll then happen?
Out of the blue she'll text you. It might be something mundane like 'I cut my wrist' to straight up ' hey how are you?'. What's she doing here? She's giving you textual proximity. A girl doesn't text first easily. There's been a lot of debating and palm-sweating before she hit 'send'. Take advantage of this primed state. Ignore whatever the content of her text was and take control.
You: 'Hey Mandy, where are you right now? I'll be home in 20m if you want to come and chill'
Game over. Crack dealer inviting crack addict. It's a wrap guys. If you played this game right, she'll give you 3 possible answers:
1) A genuine excuse why she can't make it, and offer for another day;
2) a flimsy excuse, which she;s HOPING that you dismiss and override. "I just started watching badboys2. do you like badboys 2?" or "I don't know what to wear"
3) sometimes, you'll just get asked where you live and your postcode etc.
She comes to your house, she's the one nervous because all the while you've shown you're a dominant, direct dude. Have fun like you're on your own, like you just won the lottery. Play music that you like, etc. She'll get to such a point of feendom, she'll either jump you or make it so easy for you. Reward her blowjob with compliments of her 'being feminine' but at the same time say it wasn't enough etc. She'll be a feen for life.
I'll answer question on the nuances in what I've said. Nothing outside this please. This is a complete formula. Tried and tested.
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