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John Lennon, a cruel, greedy man?
10-03-2015, 04:22 PM
Lennon was a musical genius. That is the fact that, in the end, matters above any others.
There is much about the dude that was very obviously cringeworthy, and in a way that characterized his generation, whose flaws he did not transcend. One cannot love Lennon in the way that one loves Mick Jagger, or Jimmy Page -- and he was a lesser figure in every way. Imagine is a cringeworthy song.
But he also had this:
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10-03-2015, 05:31 PM
I don`t know if `cruel, greedy`are appropriate, but he was certainly a major hypocrite and probably deeply cynical. He really knew how to spew the hippy-isms, but he never let it get in the way of his enjoying the jet-set high life.
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10-03-2015, 07:42 PM
Never liked him. He may be an original cuck sjw type guy..
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10-04-2015, 02:34 AM
The Beatles did more than anyone else to change American culture. The 1950s culture actually lasted into the sixties and ended in 1964, the year the Beatles landed in America. John Lennon was the leader of the group and a political animal who had contempt for Western Civilization.
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John Lennon, a cruel, greedy man?
10-04-2015, 03:48 PM
Lennon was an Illuminati puppet like all famous pop artists
In these lyrics he outlines the new world order
a communist utopia
Imagine there's no heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today...
Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace...
You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one
Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world...
You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one
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John Lennon, a cruel, greedy man?
10-04-2015, 08:01 PM
John Lennon's song "Imagine" illustrates his stupidity and the stupidity of the communists of whom he is a fellow traveler.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Before_Civilization
If there were no nations or religions, people would go back to killing each other over the same things they killed each other for 200,000 years ago when anatomically modern humans first appeared, food, territory and females.
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10-04-2015, 09:50 PM
Meh, Bob Dylan is light years beyond them all.
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John Lennon, a cruel, greedy man?
10-07-2015, 03:26 PM
Fuck Lennon and his hatred of his own race. The guy was a traitor that used his gifts for evil.
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John Lennon, a cruel, greedy man?
10-08-2015, 08:25 AM
Quote: (10-04-2015 02:34 AM)Sherman Wrote:
The Beatles did more than anyone else to change American culture. The 1950s culture actually lasted into the sixties and ended in 1964, the year the Beatles landed in America. John Lennon was the leader of the group and a political animal who had contempt for Western Civilization.
Kennedy getting assassinated in November, 1963 combined with The Beatles arrival in early 1964, lead the rapid veering away from the 50s culture. My family & friends that lived during that period are pretty universal in that assessment.
Those two events converged to form a clear line of delineation.
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John Lennon, a cruel, greedy man?
10-14-2015, 05:10 PM
Bill Burr on John Lennon being pussy-whipped:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=db4_13769...comments=1
I'd cut Lennon a lot of slack though, because his anti-war activism actually got him assassinated. He started out as a major pawn of The Man but starting making a U-turn in the 70s. Believing Mark Chapman did it is just as stupid as believing Oswald killed JFK.
McCartney on the other hand is a dick and an establishment stooge, all he ever did was protest against Canada for the fvcking seals and crap like vegetarianism. His wife died of cancer young, maybe she could have used a more balanced diet...
(OK that was a bit cold
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10-14-2015, 09:58 PM
With his talent and riches, I still couldn't live with myself being a shitty father.
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John Lennon, a cruel, greedy man?
10-14-2015, 10:16 PM
That story left out possibly the worst thing he ever did, though! This one is too good for me not to retell, especially in these parts.
People think the PUA crowd is uncaring about women? Ha! Lennon cornered the mark on cruelty towards women before any of us were born.
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When John and George and their wives left India in the spring of 1968, they had to drive a long ways out of the Maharishi's "meditation camp" back to the airport.
For various reasons, John was disgusted by the whole thing...so he took his anger out on his wife during the long drive. In full earshot of George and Patti Harrison, Lennon proceeded to tell his wife details of every groupie he fucked and every affair he had from the days the band started to become popular in 1963.
There were hundreds of women, some of whom allegedly included female newspaper writers and other women of note. Despite the pleas of everyone in the car for him to SHUT UP, he went on and on as his wife broke down into a sobbing mess.
This is so sadistic and humiliating it's almost comical. And yet his wife Cynthia stayed with him. Until she came home a few weeks later to find Yoko in her house and her bathrobe and John unwilling to speak a word to her.
All of this is pretty public information -- and not gleaned from the trash tabloids, but the good books from "Beatle scholars." Lennon was some piece of work.
That said, most performers are bundles of contradictions and total hypocrites. Lennon was no exception. The difference is that people see him as some sort of saint. I'm old enough to remember before he was murdered; back then he was barely tolerated as an eccentric.
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John Lennon, a cruel, greedy man?
10-15-2015, 08:58 AM
I saw a good biographical film on John Lennon on the BBC a few years ago; Lennon Naked, starring Christopher Eccleston as the eponymous character.
It focuses mainly on Lennon's pain at the way his father abandoned him as a child, and his hypocrisy in regards to how he was with his own son.
Certainly a selfish, troubled man, badly equipped to handle the cultural movement he was at the forefront of. That, coupled with his bizarre attachment to that wailing, hideous woman, should be enough to consider anyone who idolises him a fool.
Good songwriter though
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