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SWOOP JAPAN: Tokyo Joe’s Guide for the First-Time (~7-day) Visitor

SWOOP JAPAN: Tokyo Joe’s Guide for the First-Time (~7-day) Visitor

I'm going on my Japan trip from this weekend for 2 weeks. Osaka, Kyoto, and Tokyo.

I'm wondering what are the international parties to meet local Japanese girls? And what are some of the other specific venues or events to pickup japanese girls?

I would really appreciate it some of the people here could provide some tips as to where to go and what events to attend while I'm in Osaka and Tokyo (and Kyoto too, but guess it's less happening there)

About me: Asian, late 20s, don't drink so not into 3am late binges, will have my own AirBnb place.
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SWOOP JAPAN: Tokyo Joe’s Guide for the First-Time (~7-day) Visitor

I am not a local and I am white, so listen to more senior members. But i found Japanese girls on the street incredibly approachable. Ask them for help, be it how to get somewhere or how to get a printer in Family Mart working. Then after they take half an hour to help you, offer to thank them the chivalrous way with a cup of tea. Proceed to charm their pants off.9

Going to international exchange events didn't lead to the orgy with five Japanese virgins i hoped for. It was a waste of time. Not enough sluttiness to compensate for the boring events.
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SWOOP JAPAN: Tokyo Joe’s Guide for the First-Time (~7-day) Visitor

Thanks. I'm not so interesting in partying as when i was younger so I'll try day approach. I've had some success with it other countries. Let's see if it works in Nippon
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SWOOP JAPAN: Tokyo Joe’s Guide for the First-Time (~7-day) Visitor

Followup question would be how much time would you spend max per girl to get her pants off? You may ask for help, take her for a coffee, try to hold her hands, but she won't come to you for sex (just cause or she wants to slow down). I've had experiences where I've hanged out with a girl for an entire day, held her hands even make out but at the end she flakes on me.
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SWOOP JAPAN: Tokyo Joe’s Guide for the First-Time (~7-day) Visitor

You have to make it known from the start of the coffee that you find her attractive. Your frame should be: "You will be my woman soon. it is impossible you are going to reject me. Look at all my attributes." Keep your body lanuage, voice tonality and conversations tight. She will start to think: "here is this man who looks so strong and who is completely convinced I am going to be his woman." The more time you spent in this frame, the more likely it becomes she adopts it.

This is fairly standard game though. I can't comment on the finer points of game in Japan (except you should not sexually assault people, as per a few pages ago)
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SWOOP JAPAN: Tokyo Joe’s Guide for the First-Time (~7-day) Visitor

Thanks for the general tip. Im not unfamiliar it but could you give an actual detailed example of a pickup in Japan?

I.e. Approach cute girl on street, ask for help, eyefuck but dont touch yet. After help, ask her for coffee. If she cant speak English well, then use hand signals or some shit. Get coffee, touch her a few times, say i found her beautiful. Take to bench close by, force my lips against hers. Lure her back to apartment by saying you want to show her some cool photos. Bang.

Sound about right?
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SWOOP JAPAN: Tokyo Joe’s Guide for the First-Time (~7-day) Visitor

Remember for game in Japan: you can be "aggressive" in your speed of escalation. It's a great place for quick lays. But just don't be agressive in your demeanor. Smile, be the gentleman, then get them back to your pad and escalate. Efficiency and courtesy is the Japanese way!

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SWOOP JAPAN: Tokyo Joe’s Guide for the First-Time (~7-day) Visitor

You can find the international parties on Meetup. It's almost guaranteed if you're not a scrub and want a layup with a decent young chick.

The ones in Osaka never had anything above an 8 at it but lots of 7-8s would make a date and show up at my stop. Not much flakiness. Couldn't be easier. But then again I wasn't a scrub English teacher in shorts.

The ones in Tokyo had better quality on weekends where a SNL was easier bc people are busier and commuting from further. But maybe harder to set up future dates for same reason. Prob also bc Tokyo has multiple downtowns. A lot of girls would only go out in their metro hub (i.e. Shinjuku/ikebukuro for saitama girls or shibuya for Yokohama girls).
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SWOOP JAPAN: Tokyo Joe’s Guide for the First-Time (~7-day) Visitor

I've never been there but I'm not into Asian girls.

I would definitely go there with a girl to experience Japan. I find it very interesting country culturally. I want to try all the sushi and kobe beef. Did anyone try kobe steak? Was it really $150 a piece?

I found a lot of good info in here about Japan. Thank you so much.
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SWOOP JAPAN: Tokyo Joe’s Guide for the First-Time (~7-day) Visitor

You can order kobe beef in any steakhouse in the world. I'd spend your limited time and money on experiences. Food is expensive there and the sushi at most Japanese restaurants i your home city is just as authentic. Of course try new things and try the local cuisine wherever you go. But realize takoyaki (fried octopus) in Osaka is gross fast food street food not some haute cuisine. Japan has a lot of stuff that is basically like eating McDonald's. Tourists go nuts for Japanese stuff but there's a lot of consumer crap. I'd personally recommend avoiding shotengai after one visit bc the shopping streets in Japan are identical in every city. What's unique tends to be the cultural sites and festivals. Feb-March is plum blossom season. Into april cherry blossoms. Stop by the tourist info centers and ask for a print out if the top Hanami spots. And pay attention to the weather. Some years you get one or two nice days to enjoy the blossoms at their peak. In Tokyo I recommend renting a row boat on chidorigafuchi moat to experience blossoms day or night.
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SWOOP JAPAN: Tokyo Joe’s Guide for the First-Time (~7-day) Visitor

Quote: (02-10-2017 08:45 AM)Travel Museums Wrote:  

You can order kobe beef in any steakhouse I the world.

Not even close. Real Kobe beef is rarely on the menu outside of Japan, and the "wagyu" is rarely Japanese. If it is, you'll know as the price will be eye-watering. As for sushi and sashimi, the mid-price stuff in Japan is better than you'll find anywhere else except for a handful of the world's most elite establishments.

Dr Johnson rumbles with the RawGod. And lives to regret it.
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SWOOP JAPAN: Tokyo Joe’s Guide for the First-Time (~7-day) Visitor

Quote: (02-10-2017 08:45 AM)Travel Museums Wrote:  

You can order kobe beef in any steakhouse I the world.

That's what they say about Italian food as well but %99 of the Italian restaurants outside of Italy are totally awful.

Most of the time, they don't even know what they are serving. In Manhattan, they say they are approximately 5,000 Italian restaurants but there are only handful real Italian restaurants in whole New York City.

But Americans don't know the difference anyway. They think it's Italian food, when Mexicans are the chef and most of the time, they have no idea what they are cooking.
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SWOOP JAPAN: Tokyo Joe’s Guide for the First-Time (~7-day) Visitor

Food porn strikes again. I think shows like man vs food and bordain have scrambled people's brains.

If you're in kobe try the beef. Travel there just for it? You must be very very hungry lol.
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SWOOP JAPAN: Tokyo Joe’s Guide for the First-Time (~7-day) Visitor

Quote: (02-10-2017 08:44 AM)Rossi Wrote:  

I've never been there but I'm not into Asian girls.

I would definitely go there with a girl to experience Japan. I find it very interesting country culturally. I want to try all the sushi and kobe beef. Did anyone try kobe steak? Was it really $150 a piece?

I found a lot of good info in here about Japan. Thank you so much.

It's absolutely worth going just for the gourmet experience. You cannot get that Japan food quality outside Japan (and variety - all kind of things not available outside Japan).

Get your Kobe beef at the famous butchers at the entrance to Centergai, Motomachi, Kobe. And a plate of it cooked up for you at the basement of the Hankyu departo at Sannomiya will be the fastest and cheapest way to experience it. Of course there are loads of good restaurants for the full experience.

For sashimi, go to the fish market in Kanazawa and find the local joints around there that will serve you the best stuff, the seafood they take to Tokyo a day later and serve for 4 times the price.

Dr Johnson rumbles with the RawGod. And lives to regret it.
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SWOOP JAPAN: Tokyo Joe’s Guide for the First-Time (~7-day) Visitor

Quote: (02-10-2017 08:57 AM)Travel Museums Wrote:  

Food porn strikes again. I think shows like man vs food and bordain have scrambled people's brains.

If you're in kobe try the beef. Travel there just for it? You must be hungry lol.

I'm Italian.

We enjoy few things in life: Food, Wine, Football, Girls, Fashion. That's about it. That's our life.

History Lesson: Every time, Roman Empire invade another territory, they would hold big "Supper" in Rome for 3 days. When people are full, they would put finger in their throat, so they vomit. They can continue eating for next 3 days.

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SWOOP JAPAN: Tokyo Joe’s Guide for the First-Time (~7-day) Visitor

Italy has a lot of culture besides pizza. I took Latin for 7 years. I enjoyed food when I was there of course. Lots of other things too.

As if you don't have Albanians doing work in Italian kitchens. Give me a break. The this or that food is NO COMPARISON more authentic in the home country vs an ethnic restaurant elsewhere argument makes me roll my eyes everytime. Eat pray love but mostly eat. Ugh.
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SWOOP JAPAN: Tokyo Joe’s Guide for the First-Time (~7-day) Visitor

Quote: (02-10-2017 09:26 AM)Travel Museums Wrote:  

Italy has a lot of culture besides pizza. I took Latin for 7 years. I enjoyed food when I was there of course. Lots of other things too.

As if you don't have Albanians doing work in Italian kitchens. Give me a break. The this or that food is NO COMPARISON more authentic in the home country vs an ethnic restaurant elsewhere argument makes me roll my eyes everytime. Eat pray love but mostly eat. Ugh.

Yes, we have Albanians in the kitchen, but they are not chef. They do other things. They don't usually work at restaurants anyway, they work at pizzeria's.

You are not Italian. You wouldn't know even I tell you this countless times. RawGod is probably Japanese, he just told you that Kobe beef is not same if you eat it in different country. I'm also telling you samething about Italian food. Whether you roll your eyes or not but 60 million Italians agree with me when it comes to eating Italian food outside of the Italy.

%99 of Italian restaurants in New York City and Los Angeles are not Italian restaurant. I spent 33 years in Rome, born and grew up. I think I know the difference about my food when I taste it.

If you are raised in a country where cuisine is not that important like Canada, Sweden, UK, Finland, Lithuania etc, you would never understand it.
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SWOOP JAPAN: Tokyo Joe’s Guide for the First-Time (~7-day) Visitor

Just lol. Speaking for all Italians is over the top. Yet it does strangely make me think of you as more Italian than other Italians.

I agree lol. So many countries to list where food just doesn't matter! < sarcastic mocking

Look I'm just pointing out that imho Japanese cuisine is very authentic outside Japan. Is it 100% the same. I don't know or care. I'm not a foodie.

I'm just suggesting you consider spending your time and money enjoying stuff like the cherry blossoms. For Hanami people eat and drink under the trees so you can do both. Rawgids suggestions for trying the local stuff in kobe and Kanazawa are great and will save you money too. Moreover they're also a fun experience.

I think the main fish market in Tokyo moved to odiaba. But I recommend Ota market next to haneda airport. No tourists and it has a catwalk to observe from. The mongers were so nice one guy gave me a ride in his palette truck.
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I have never found the same quality steak and sushi outside Japan, let alone for the same price. Some things can't be mimicked. Getting the right ingredients with the right degree of freshness elsewhere? Unluckily to happen. And I spend a ridiculous percentage of my income on food.

Joerno, don't ever "force" yourself on a girl. If you want to kiss her, just kiss her. Make it nice and sensual.. get her wet.

Dominant body language is not the same as "forcing". Being dominant is about making it inevitable that you are going to fuck, without rushing it. This is more a mind game then anything else. If you are a newbie I absolutely advise to show that strong frame, but to keep your touch gentle. Give the girl as much room as you can to get out or to release herself from your touch. Only when you can dominate her with your mind or when you are 200% sure she will let you know when you are going too far, should you go to the strong touching.

I am all about the hair pulling, choking and slapping in the sack. However, if you are new to game only start doing this with girls who you fucked at least 4 times and who trust you. Go slow and learn her signals. When you get more notches you can read women better and there is more space for strong touch and in the end kinky sex.
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SWOOP JAPAN: Tokyo Joe’s Guide for the First-Time (~7-day) Visitor

Quote: (02-10-2017 05:47 AM)RawGod Wrote:  

But just don't be agressive in your demeanor. Smile, be the gentleman, then get them back to your pad and escalate.

Thanks, good tip. So it's not offensive to hang out for a 1 hour and bring her back to my place (assuming there's a connection).

Quote: (02-10-2017 08:43 AM)Travel Museums Wrote:  

You can find the international parties on Meetup. It's almost guaranteed if you're not a scrub and want a layup with a decent young chick.

I'm taking a look and goddamn it seems like all these parties are all you can drink (i don't drink alcohol). Perhaps couchsurfing meetups are better? Also these days I'm not so keen on late night party binges anymore. Prefer 1-on-1s

Quote: (02-10-2017 12:43 PM)asdfk Wrote:  

Joerno, don't ever "force" yourself on a girl. If you want to kiss her, just kiss her. Make it nice and sensual.. get her wet.

Dominant body language is not the same as "forcing". Being dominant is about making it inevitable that you are going to fuck, without rushing it. Only when you can dominate her with your mind or when you are 200% sure she will let you know when you are going too far, should you go to the strong touching.

So basically leading her, being nice but aggressive.

Care to provide an example of how you were able to dominate a Japanese girl's mind <1 hour? [Image: wink.gif]
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SWOOP JAPAN: Tokyo Joe’s Guide for the First-Time (~7-day) Visitor

Seduction takes time. If I fuck a girl within an hour from meeting, she was very attracted from the start (and likely ovulating). In that case no seduction is needed. Just nodding, smiling and taking her somewhere private will do.

As a newbie, you are unlikely to encounter this. Otherwise you wouldn't be on this forum. Don't keep track of how much time you spent with girls. Focus on the seductive mindset and radiating the inevitability of her falling for you instead. Be prepared to take as long as it needs. Time should not be an issue when learning this frame. It won't fall from the sky, you have to earn it.
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SWOOP JAPAN: Tokyo Joe’s Guide for the First-Time (~7-day) Visitor

The international parties end at 10pm. Kinda too late for girl to "get a drink" with you and still take last train after sex unless you have your logistics close. I've done it many times but the sex was rushed and girl literally had to rush out to the station. A lot of the tokyo party girls live in Chiba or another pref. In Osaka they might need to get home to Nara. The ones in roppongi at maharaja go late bc you can stay afterwards. But that's a bad idea since there's no love hotels and it's a shitty club.

The all you can drink works much better bc you can isolate very quickly by getting a drink at the bar. You can be getting soda or whatever doesn't matter. Also gives you an excuse to exit groups and get away from 7s you're lining up for later in week after you've gotten their line. Of its not all you can drink you have to say you're going to toilet. Otherwise girls will say you talk to other girls and wrote you off as a playboy. They will watch to see if you actually go get a drink or open another girl. Drinks are 500¥ So if you're going to talk to more than 2-3 girls get the wristband. If it's your birthday month u get in free.

The girls at these parties are on the carousel yet they're pissy about you being a playboy. There emotionally 12 years old. McArthur called it a nation of 10 year olds lol. I think the biggest factor in getting laid is the girl feeling like no one will know she's going home to fuck you. I've had girls even worry about if anyone would HEAR them through the walls.
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SWOOP JAPAN: Tokyo Joe’s Guide for the First-Time (~7-day) Visitor

How is the intensity / effort level required? I'm pretty lazy when it comes to gaming while on holidays and would rather relax and focus on one girl for a few hours than jump between rejections and taking it in the nutsack.
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Quote: (02-10-2017 11:48 PM)Travel Museums Wrote:  

The girls at these parties are on the carousel yet they're pissy about you being a playboy. There emotionally 12 years old. McArthur called it a nation of 10 year olds lol.

Generally speaking, international party girls are the westernized dregs of Japanese girls. It's not typical J-girl behaviour to get openly "pissy" about anything. Even if she's your girlfriend. You are dealing with low quality chicks my friend.

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