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09-28-2015, 05:07 PM
Quote: (09-28-2015 03:46 PM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:
To me, the more interesting question is this:
Why were there such big cultural differences between the Europeans who settled North America and the Europeans who settled South America?
Why did the Spanish and Portuguese intermarry and mix with the Indians of Central and South America, while the Indians of North America did not mix (or at least very little) with the northern European types (English, Dutch, German, Scandinavian) that settled North America?
Indians in North America were essentially wiped out.
In Central and South America, they were also brutalized, but there was a large degree of admixture with the colonizers. Spanish and Portuguese took native wives, and also reproduced with slaves.
British didn't really do this, or at least not as much.
North America was a caste system that was very rigid. Why was this?
Was it climate? Geography? Cultural differences between the Mediterranean races and the Northern Europeans?
Good questions QC. Same thing in the southern Philippines under spanish rule, spanish intermarried with locals.
America is a good example with some small exceptions. So, here in appalachian Tennessee there was plenty of intermarrying/cooperation with the natives and you can see Cherokee features in plenty of girls around here (straight black hair, flat feet, no butt) Davey Crockett actually took a lot of political damage because he opposed the Indian Removal Act. Wheras the rest of america and Canada took an extermination policy (for the most part).
Canada's Davey Crockett equivalent was Louis Riel and again, in Manitoba there was a big culture of intermarrying and Metis (mixed) families.
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09-28-2015, 05:12 PM
Quote: (09-28-2015 02:59 PM)CrashBangWallop Wrote:
A more interesting question would be:
What would South America look like if it had been Protestant missionaries, not Catholics?
To me, Catholicism and Protestantism are almost the same thing.
I mean they both believe in Christ right? Therefore they fall under the same umbrella that is Christianity.
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09-28-2015, 05:54 PM
Quote: (09-28-2015 05:12 PM)EL CHAPO Wrote:
Quote: (09-28-2015 02:59 PM)CrashBangWallop Wrote:
A more interesting question would be:
What would South America look like if it had been Protestant missionaries, not Catholics?
To me, Catholicism and Protestantism are almost the same thing.
I mean they both believe in Christ right? Therefore they fall under the same umbrella that is Christianity.
Go to belfast and pose that same question.
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09-28-2015, 06:37 PM
It was pretty much demographical reasons. Iberians sent mostly single men to areas with large empires (and therefore large populations) while the US and Canada didn't have a previous large empires (therefore much smaller populations) and whole families went to those areas instead of just military single men.
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09-28-2015, 08:49 PM
There's 7 people who voted "against" but haven't really given their arguments yet, except for frenchcorporation.
I would really like to hear some of these arguments.
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09-30-2015, 02:20 AM
Quote: (09-30-2015 01:05 AM)iop890 Wrote:
Quote: (09-28-2015 05:01 PM)EL CHAPO Wrote:
Here are some quotes from a couple of Spanish conquistadors from a New Spain book I'm currently reading
What's the name of the book.
If you're a novice on Latin America, I recommend Mark A. Buckholder's and Lyman L. Johnson's "Colonial Latin America". Its a very easy and great read. The Spanish conquest of Mexico has to be one of the most interesting events in human history.
Here's the cover:
The book I'm currently reading right now is a bigger book, and has more detailed insight on the life in Colonial Latin America after the conquest The book is named "A History of Latin America" by Peter Bakewell. I really like this one because it has maps to help guide you and illustrated images and photographs.
Here's how it looks like:
There's a lot of great books on Latin American history out there. One area I'm very fascinated by.
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09-30-2015, 04:06 AM
I think its very hard to answer the original question as we only know what did happen, and can only speculate on what might have happened.
Who knows what would have happened if the Spanish didn't invade Latin America?
From what did happen it's clear there was a huge loss of history, gold, land and people. However at least the people weren't completely exterminated as you can see from Latin America today, it also replaced their religion with one not requiring human sacrifice, and brought a more modern way of life there. However I'm not sure these positives outweigh all the negatives, maybe these things could have happened in time without a brutal invasion.
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09-30-2015, 10:32 AM
So what do we think would have happened if SA had been colonised by the British?
No matter what anyone says, former British colonies are doing pretty well globally. Rule of Law, government institutions etc.
In my opinion, Victorian Britain got just about everything right.