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Are you a father, or do you want to be?
#76

Are you a father, or do you want to be?

Quote: (09-28-2015 10:19 PM)forever_beta Wrote:  

As for me, I did it too early without first having wild years to go and slay pussy all over the globe and so far its brought me nothing but existential misery and regret. If I could go back I would not do it until maybe later in life after 40 if at all. I won't repeat my moans and groans here as you can find them already if you search for my posts. For what its worth I've said a lot about marriage, family, and my situation already.

BTW did you ever come to a decision? Just curious

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#77

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Wow, just wow.

You guys are a bunch stupid motherfuckers.

Awww, you think you want to be a fucking daddy? El Mech, Stirfry, Eljefe, Col Tigh, Lothario, Laner, realologist, all say the same thing. I GET that. If it was a matter of raising a kid with a loving wife vs banging new chics all the time, I get it. But what you all might not get is that you have no legal rights to your kid. You have ZERO rights. Do you fucking understand that? Have that urge to blast inside her and get her pregnant? Congrats caveman, but in today's "progressive society" you have no rights. She can kill your pre-born son for any reason. At any time. Oh, so maybe she might want to actually have the child? Congrats again! What rights do you have? ZERO. She can can leave at any time for any fucking reason ("I'm not haaaaaaaapppy") and at BEST you get to see your offspring 50% of the time. While cutting a huge monthly check that your cunt of an exwife/gf/baby mamma just spends to increase her lifestyle, not on your child. At worst, you go to debtors prison for non-payment or thrown in jail for false abuse accusations. And it just takes an accusation, not a jury of your peers. You can say all you want how being a father is the best thing in the world (and it probably is...if you actually raise him or her) but that doesn't change the fact that any moment, for any reason, you can lose all parental rights. The US Family Courts dont even follow the US Constitution! That's a fact! (no jury, right to an attorney, blah blah)

Sure, I want to follow Greekgod's words of wisdom to my potential future offspring as well. But you have no rights to them! You are literally putting 100% of the outcome into the hands of the momma aka the modern western woman. YOU DECIDE NOTHING. You want to risk your tight marriage game on that? Good luck.

So there is a very good chance she takes your kid and there is absolutely nothing you can do about it. What kind of a fucking dad see's their kid once a week? or month? or year? If this is your idea of parenthood, of procreation, have at it. Me? No thanks. I can think of no worse fate than having a child I love and adore only to have the state take him away because some cunt said so. Stupid fuckers.
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#79

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A few guys in this thread have criticized the notion of waiting for lots of money before getting going, but there are good reasons to take that path. My desire to save first comes not from some paranoid desire to ensure every little cost (up to and including private school) is covered for my children, though that is a nice bonus to aim for. It is primarily because more money = easier, more seamless expatriation. It also makes it easier to have a high number of children (which I prefer to do if possible). With a fatter nest egg, I can expatriate more easily and have a larger number of children while doing so.

If I start relatively early without focusing on saving first, I'll probably either be stuck with an American woman or, in a best case scenario, be forced to raise my children here in the states with a foreign woman who I've brought back with me or met here. I'm going to try and avoid both those scenarios - I might screw up (nobody is perfect), but it won't be for a lack of effort.

Quote: (09-29-2015 10:31 PM)Vanguard Wrote:  

Quote: (09-29-2015 08:57 PM)John Galt2 Wrote:  

The US Family Courts dont even follow the US Constitution! That's a fact! (no jury, right to an attorney, blah blah)

Sure, I want to follow Greekgod's words of wisdom to my potential future offspring as well. But you have no rights to them! You are literally putting 100% of the outcome into the hands of the momma aka the modern western woman. YOU DECIDE NOTHING. You want to risk your tight marriage game on that? Good luck.

That's assuming they get married to a women in the west, which is something most of them probably won't ever consider.

Bingo.

As I noted earlier, I'm quite inclined toward fatherhood, but I don't plan on raising those children in the USA. I'm already fairly confident that I'm not going to find a good romantic fit for me in this society, nor am I particularly keen to raise my children under the auspices of this culture. Expatriation is the end game.

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#80

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The reason I never wanted to be a father is I think a vagina is for pleasure not for a child-birth (just compare the size of a pussy and a fetus) and I wouldn't want to put my chick through the pain of a child-birth.

The scariest thing they don't tell you is very simple. I mean pain. Even with an epidural, you are going to have it. A large percentage of women get to the hospital too late for an epidural, so they basically have no pain control whatsoever. They even say that elimination of pain is NOT A GOAL. And some healthcare providers, nurses more often than doctors, feel sorry that so many women prefer epidural or ask for a C-section instead of going natural. I think those healthcare providers don't use anesthesia when they go to a dentist. They like it natural, right?

Plus here are some other lifelong issues that can occur:

*Incontinence (imagine peeing a bit when you sneeze, laugh, cough etc?)
*Not being able to keep a tampon in your vagina due to looseness (it's a big lie when docs tell you your vagina will go back to normal. Many don't)
*you can tear during the birth. Third and fourth degree lacerations are common and involve damaging or completely tearing the anal sphincter. That will prevent you from being able to hold in a fart or even loose stool. A fourth degree laceration is when the vagina tears all the way to the anus so there is one large wound. The vagina can also tear inside. I have heard of the bowls coming through the wall and into the vagina. The labia can tear as well horizontally so it appears there are four outer of inner lips. The vagina can tear all the way up to the clitoris as well. These tears may ruin vagina sensitivity forever.
*your organs can prolapse and come through your cervix. My friend's grandmother had to have surgery to put her organs back into place and tighten her cervix.
*women report having a bulge of skin at the entrance of their vagina. Is is the vaginal wall that get stretched during pushing the baby out.
*you can of course die during labor for many reasons

These are things women don't talk about it. Oh and doctors tell you you can resume having vaginal sex after 6 weeks but lots of women need months more time than that. Some can never have sex again.
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#81

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The reason I never wanted to be a father is I think a vagina is for pleasure not for a child-birth

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Female spotted.
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#82

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Quote: (09-30-2015 12:58 AM)dorky44 Wrote:  

The reason I never wanted to be a father is I think a vagina is for pleasure not for a child-birth (just compare the size of a pussy and a fetus) and I wouldn't want to put my chick through the pain of a child-birth.

The scariest thing they don't tell you is very simple. I mean pain. Even with an epidural, you are going to have it. A large percentage of women get to the hospital too late for an epidural, so they basically have no pain control whatsoever. They even say that elimination of pain is NOT A GOAL. And some healthcare providers, nurses more often than doctors, feel sorry that so many women prefer epidural or ask for a C-section instead of going natural. I think those healthcare providers don't use anesthesia when they go to a dentist. They like it natural, right?

Plus here are some other lifelong issues that can occur:

*Incontinence (imagine peeing a bit when you sneeze, laugh, cough etc?)
*Not being able to keep a tampon in your vagina due to looseness (it's a big lie when docs tell you your vagina will go back to normal. Many don't)
*you can tear during the birth. Third and fourth degree lacerations are common and involve damaging or completely tearing the anal sphincter. That will prevent you from being able to hold in a fart or even loose stool. A fourth degree laceration is when the vagina tears all the way to the anus so there is one large wound. The vagina can also tear inside. I have heard of the bowls coming through the wall and into the vagina. The labia can tear as well horizontally so it appears there are four outer of inner lips. The vagina can tear all the way up to the clitoris as well. These tears may ruin vagina sensitivity forever.
*your organs can prolapse and come through your cervix. My friend's grandmother had to have surgery to put her organs back into place and tighten her cervix.
*women report having a bulge of skin at the entrance of their vagina. Is is the vaginal wall that get stretched during pushing the baby out.
*you can of course die during labor for many reasons

These are things women don't talk about it. Oh and doctors tell you you can resume having vaginal sex after 6 weeks but lots of women need months more time than that. Some can never have sex again.

This is what happens if a woman has a child and is out of shape and/or old.

A solid set of abdominal muscles, muscle control and youthful skin will have a bitch snapping back quickly after childbirth and not ripping out her asshole.

Examples?

1. have you ever banged a chick that had a baby as a teenager? You'd often never know...if you haven't just go and look up Farrah, teen mom.
2. That model and fitness chick that garnered internet hate for their pregnancy/post pregnancy pictures
3. On the reverse...well, you really need to just examine the lifestyle of any milf that you've banged with horrid stretch marks to connect the dots.

It just makes sense, If you take some fluffy starbucks milkshake eating meat sack and the ask her to push out a child that is like pulling her off the couch making her squat her PR over and over for 6-8 hours when she's never been to a gym. Its going to destroy her body and snap her shit up.

This is all common sense to anyone but a woman that can't correlate physical fitness and youth to human health and performance.

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#83

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Quote: (09-27-2015 08:08 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

Anyone else been bitten by the urge?

Yes, and the urge is strengthening at an alarming rate.

Few years ago I was slightly against having any children at all. Then I went to being 50/50, to now 90/10. I think you nail it on the head, we can't deny our biology. The comment about being the first one in our lineage of men not to reproduce has some serious weight to it.

Recently I have been giving this topic a lot of thought, and I mean a lot. Both consciously and to a slight extent subconsciously. I have noticed myself when out drinking with a girl, thinking about what she would be like as a wife or mother. Instead of thinking what her nipples look like, I think about whether she would care for me when I'm sick. Things like this now enter my mind. I was in Eastern Russia recently, and out with a rather attractive 19 year old girl. She was very happy to just be out with me. She would rub my head and stroke my arm. She wouldn't let me speak English, because she genuinely wanted me to try and learn Russian. Yes, I wanted to have sex with her and badly, but my thoughts turned more so to whether she would be a good mother. Absolutely crazy. But this is what has been happening.

I also now want to blast inside girls raw dog, something I dreaded as recently as 6 months ago. A few girls this summer have made me use condoms, and when I finish inside them with a condom it's a more powerful orgasm than pulling out and jacking myself off on them with my hand. So I say to myself, "wouldn't it be great to combine the wonderful feeling of rawdog with the climax of busting inside a girl?" What I claim is my desire for utmost pleasure may actually be my mind's way of allowing my subconscious and biologically rooted want to procreate, step through to the forefront undetected. I don't know.

I think Red Pill knowledge, or whatever nomenclature you want to attach to our ability to see the matrix, hurts us in several ways. First off, if you are like me and are not a natural and developed game, you probably feel like you have a superpower or are trying to make up for lost times (or likely both). It's a drug. Knowing that I can say "Hi" to a girl and be having sex with her the same night, or in some cases within an hour carries with it an awe conceptually that while I've done it enough times to know it is practically the norm these days, I still get a rush from it. I enjoy the process more than the chase and it is hard for me to give it up as a result. Game is still a game and I've learned how to win. I now understand star athletes that refuse to retire. They have gotten so good at something, it is difficult to walk away. Even if the injuries take longer to heal, they still know how to throw that touchdown or swing a bat and that drives them to continue.

But it gets tiring in the end. Roosh's recent posts have hit home for me on having sex with girls you don't like. This spring, I was in Moscow and invited a girl over to have sex that I was not into. As I took her shirt off, I had a flashback to doing the same exact thing in the year 2000. It freaked me out. 15 years and I'm still doing the same thing. I still had sex with her, but it has made no difference whatsoever in my life. Not even a memory I really care about. But I knew what to do to get the sex and my addiction took over me.

The second thing about the Red Pill knowledge is my belief that we know of worst case scenarios, and this scares us. We read all these articles, we've seen girls cheat, and what degenerates some or most girls - depending on your city - can be. But can't we use this as a tool? A source of knowledge to choose wisely rather than to be played? Perhaps it is a fantasy, but there is a reason almost all of us still hold on to that dream of a good wife and family. I have seen my friends and family grow from players or single men without game, to husbands and fathers. Some have done well for themselves in terms of wives, others have not. To be honest, there is no statistical advantage I've found to one side or another. I know players with game that got tired of the game, and wifed up horrible women that were just chaste with no other redeeming qualities. I know guys who maybe had sex with one or two girls wife up gems.

The key seems to be choosing the right woman, which I realize is not some secret I have just divulged to all of you. Perhaps the key is what is that criteria, and realistically. Those saying to hold out for that 19 year old model that loves to cook and give blowjobs, and has only had sex with two people before you will probably be waiting a long time. Yes it happens, just as how people win the lottery too. I'm trying to put together some framework, some outline of what would lead to a happy life with children. It's very hard, and I could easily be wrong about half if not more of my thoughts. I welcome criticism. Interestingly enough, a lot of my positions on these points have changed dramatically as I have gotten older.

One deviation from the general manosphere thought that I find myself more and more believing (or perhaps justifying) is not leaving America. And this is coming from someone who went to Russia 3x this year so far. I know this overarching belief that we must live in EE or somewhere else but I'm not sure I believe that. It's a tough life. Perhaps this is just me, but I need socialization with my family and friends here. A lot more than I thought before. I also believe my kids will be better off being around their grandparents, cousins, uncles, etc. moreso than living in Moscow or another EE city.

That said, she can't be American. This does not mean she has to be born/raised in another country however. But American women aside from all their other problems are just boring. Her parents however, must not be from America. Say what you will but non-Americans/westerners have stronger family values. They raise their kids differently and give them some substance.

I'm also valuing intelligence more. This is something that is new for me. I used to think she just needs to be a homemaker and I'm golden, who cares about her intellect. But having dealt with some girls that are just so dumb it's mindboggling, I cannot live a life having to speak to someone like this. Not to mention it would hurt your kids too. I have a friend who married an idiot, and I can see it in his eyes every time I am with him how much pain it brings him on a constant basis to tell his wife in a nice way that she is making a fool of herself by speaking.

And of course all the other standard things of being thin, not destroying her body with tattoos and piercings, not being a raging slut, etc.

What I have realized, and this brings us back to the point of this thread in the first place, is that men rarely regret the act of having children. Rather, the actual regret stems from marriage, which in turns means the regret stems from the woman chosen to be their partner. If you go down that path you have a difficult journey to embark upon, deciding who to spend the majority of your life with and who will be your partner in raising your lineage. I think it is equally difficult to encapsulate the criteria in words in general, much less a post on a forum.

But it's nice to try, and seeing others questioning the same things you are questioning at a minimum indicates we are not crazy for doing so.
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#84

Are you a father, or do you want to be?

Quote: (09-30-2015 06:19 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

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The reason I never wanted to be a father is I think a vagina is for pleasure not for a child-birth

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Female spotted.

Yep, I read that exact same paranoia on another thread some time ago.



I find it odd that on a forum that is all about self improvement and gaining the knowledge and experience to avoid pitfalls, that guys still assume that everyone is going to have their kids taken away, get divorce raped, and just generally live shitty married lives.

Yes, the odds are high that this could be the case, but out of anywhere I have ever spent time- including church- I would be willing to bet the men on here will be able to beat those odds and end up raising solid families.
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#85

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Recently, my mind has actually said to me:

"I would like to impregnate her" about a few different girls.

What's worse is my conscious mind is unable to overcome the sentiment.
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#86

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I have a [redacted] old daughter, and I'm already working on the next one. Being a father is awesome. Having a solid, traditional, red-pill marriage is awesome and IMO something this world needs more of.

No matter how many books you sell or how much money you make, no matter how much status or recognition you attain, you most likely will not have a lasting legacy without children who will honor your contributions to their life.

If you have any positive traits or character you owe it to society and to yourself to instill them in your children so that they can hand down those traits to their kids.
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#87

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Maybe I'm not old enough yet, I don't have thoughts about impregnating a girl. It's more about the quality of the girl I'm with, perhaps LTR qualities are more prevalent which of course eventually leads to wanting children.
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#88

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Great post slubu. Yes, there are many other factors to consider when choosing a mother. Homemaking is really minimally important. Why? Because we have machines to do most of the stuff. We can pay someone to come and clean 2 times a month. 80% of a woman's homemaking skills (not including children) are superfluous today to an independent international playboy. I don't even need someone to cook for me regularly, because I am on pre-planned easy to make diet.

I also second the notion that living in America is a great option. I live a life here that 98% of the world can only dream of, and certainly do better here than I could anywhere else. One "problem" you will have with Russian girls is analysis paralysis: there are so many to choose from. The question for you may be, import one from Russia (thereby having to marry her), or find one already in the U.S. that also has Russian-born parents (very important).
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#89

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Quote: (09-30-2015 11:09 AM)Menace Wrote:  

The question for you may be, import one from Russia (thereby having to marry her), or find one already in the U.S. that also has Russian-born parents (very important).

The more I travel and become more experienced with human psychology and interactions, the more I'm leaning towards the latter. To import one means she will be in awe/shock with her new life here. So many things to experience, and thus so many variables that can make her change. At least with the latter, if she grew up here she has already been morphed into who she is. In a sense, you are more likely to get what you are actually seeing.

Don't get me wrong, I still think you can succeed by importing. It's a dichotomy that is hard to choose from. Those across the sea are more likely to be the type you want, but more susceptible to being corrupted. Those domestic will be harder to find, but less likely to change over time.
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#90

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I have seen my friends and family grow from players or single men without game, to husbands and fathers. Some have done well for themselves in terms of wives, others have not. To be honest, there is no statistical advantage I've found to one side or another. I know players with game that got tired of the game, and wifed up horrible women that were just chaste with no other redeeming qualities. I know guys who maybe had sex with one or two girls wife up gems.

I'm very curious to know. How many people on this forum believe they've come across, and banged, a real gem? I mean mother of your children material. How old were you? How far along in game? Did you park it? Would you be willing to do so if you met a girl who scratched off every item on your checklist?

Have you banged gems and just let them go of your own volition like nothing?
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#91

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Quote: (09-30-2015 11:52 AM)Kamikaze Wrote:  

Quote:slubu Wrote:

I have seen my friends and family grow from players or single men without game, to husbands and fathers. Some have done well for themselves in terms of wives, others have not. To be honest, there is no statistical advantage I've found to one side or another. I know players with game that got tired of the game, and wifed up horrible women that were just chaste with no other redeeming qualities. I know guys who maybe had sex with one or two girls wife up gems.

I'm very curious to know. How many people on this forum believe they've come across, and banged, a real gem? I mean mother of your children material. How old were you? How far along in game? Did you park it? Would you be willing to do so if you met a girl who scratched off every item on your checklist?

Have you banged gems and just let them go of your own volition like nothing?

I have a slightly unusual theory on this.

It is that all women have "the gem" within them. It just requires a man good enough to bring it out in them.

Women are malleable. They become who they are expected to be. They can change their whole personality in an instant.
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#92

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Quote: (09-30-2015 12:01 PM)CrashBangWallop Wrote:  

I have a slightly unusual theory on this.

It is that all women have "the gem" within them. It just requires a man good enough to bring it out in them.

Women are malleable. They become who they are expected to be. They can change their whole personality in an instant.

Damn, I wish I could agree. That's an optimistic way to view it.

The truth is, one of the more important traits to me is how a woman reacts to male attention. Some women live for the attention of men, even if they say they don't. In fact every woman will say they don't when called out on it. What I do is pay very close attention to how women describe when a guy hits on them, get ogled at the supermarket, or any other similar situation.

Most women enjoy the feeling of being pretty. As we can see from social media, some women literally live for it. To me, the gems are the ones that are indifferent to it. The ones who live by the idea that 'beauty fades.' They recognize they are pretty but are not interested in frivolous shit, like modeling, to exploit their looks. When they tell the stories of stares or dudes hitting on them, they state them as-a-matter-of-fact, and not like they're showing off their value in any way, because their value lies elsewhere. Frequently, they will also shoot men down at the earliest convenience, because they are firm believers that good-looking single men and women cannot be platonic friends. Watch out for the hoes who optimistically believe that stupid shit.

I find this to be hardwired by their upbringing, and a really, extremely rare trait, in good-looking girls. That trait alone narrows the sieve so much, it's depressing.

There are of course other traits that I think are hardwired, but that was just the first one to come to mind, because that's the rarest and possibly the most important one for me.
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#93

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Quote: (09-30-2015 12:01 PM)CrashBangWallop Wrote:  

Quote: (09-30-2015 11:52 AM)Kamikaze Wrote:  

Quote:slubu Wrote:

I have seen my friends and family grow from players or single men without game, to husbands and fathers. Some have done well for themselves in terms of wives, others have not. To be honest, there is no statistical advantage I've found to one side or another. I know players with game that got tired of the game, and wifed up horrible women that were just chaste with no other redeeming qualities. I know guys who maybe had sex with one or two girls wife up gems.

I'm very curious to know. How many people on this forum believe they've come across, and banged, a real gem? I mean mother of your children material. How old were you? How far along in game? Did you park it? Would you be willing to do so if you met a girl who scratched off every item on your checklist?

Have you banged gems and just let them go of your own volition like nothing?

I have a slightly unusual theory on this.

It is that all women have "the gem" within them. It just requires a man good enough to bring it out in them.

Women are malleable. They become who they are expected to be. They can change their whole personality in an instant.

I agree with this as well.

While I know its not just luck in landing good women, I do think that having a trained eye, developed over many years, allows me to find these women.

If we all set out to attain 100% perfection in a woman, and let our hard deck be 80% then we can pick and choose which items we can do without. For choosing the mother of my children I had to take some hits I would have preferred not to, but of course ended up doing.

I see many of my exes try to be the good women they were when they were with me, but being in a relationship doomed to fail is hard to witness. Knowing that I could have been the man that kept them in check is hard. I want to see people that I love, and have loved, happy.

I can't stress enough, and echo what Slubu has said, that choosing the right partner is more important the child bred from the relationship. Fuck perfection, in raising a kid there are more important things than finding Miss Perfect. Its a delusion that years in the game will trick you into thinking. Which is odd, as one of the first things this player lifestyle taught me was that there a millions of women out there, just like her. Yet around every corner, we meet another one who seems just that much better.

My best advice is make sure you are solid in your mind as the process of pregnancy, birth and babies are the biggest shit test known to man. If you put her onto a massive pedestal and take a back seat to her during this time, you are done for. You will never recover and the countdown has begun.
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Quote: (09-29-2015 08:57 PM)John Galt2 Wrote:  

Wow, just wow.

You guys are a bunch stupid motherfuckers.

Awww, you think you want to be a fucking daddy? El Mech, Stirfry, Eljefe, Col Tigh, Lothario, Laner, realologist, all say the same thing. I GET that. If it was a matter of raising a kid with a loving wife vs banging new chics all the time, I get it. But what you all might not get is that you have no legal rights to your kid. You have ZERO rights. Do you fucking understand that? Have that urge to blast inside her and get her pregnant? Congrats caveman, but in today's "progressive society" you have no rights. She can kill your pre-born son for any reason. At any time. Oh, so maybe she might want to actually have the child? Congrats again! What rights do you have? ZERO. She can can leave at any time for any fucking reason ("I'm not haaaaaaaapppy") and at BEST you get to see your offspring 50% of the time. While cutting a huge monthly check that your cunt of an exwife/gf/baby mamma just spends to increase her lifestyle, not on your child. At worst, you go to debtors prison for non-payment or thrown in jail for false abuse accusations. And it just takes an accusation, not a jury of your peers. You can say all you want how being a father is the best thing in the world (and it probably is...if you actually raise him or her) but that doesn't change the fact that any moment, for any reason, you can lose all parental rights. The US Family Courts dont even follow the US Constitution! That's a fact! (no jury, right to an attorney, blah blah)

Sure, I want to follow Greekgod's words of wisdom to my potential future offspring as well. But you have no rights to them! You are literally putting 100% of the outcome into the hands of the momma aka the modern western woman. YOU DECIDE NOTHING. You want to risk your tight marriage game on that? Good luck.

So there is a very good chance she takes your kid and there is absolutely nothing you can do about it. What kind of a fucking dad see's their kid once a week? or month? or year? If this is your idea of parenthood, of procreation, have at it. Me? No thanks. I can think of no worse fate than having a child I love and adore only to have the state take him away because some cunt said so. Stupid fuckers.

19. Over the top pessimism and ridicule are a bad look.

Your reluctance is warranted but dude, do I just turn my back on the investments my parents, grandparents and I made in my youth? Nah, I'm not going to take cyanide for my soul at age 27.

I'd like to think that a man can develop to the point where a woman simply can't do better than him. Or maybe, better yet, she doesn't want different. Yes, AWALT BUT when YOU act like a man, they defer. Note, I didn't say talk, explain, argue, etc., I said ACT. There is a certain demographic (soft spoken professions) that is craving this. I see it with my own eyes. Also, a proper mind fucking when they get out of line will keep them in check.

Ultimately you must engage these prospects on your terms which requires active screening of their values. Active screening requires knowing yourself and values. Yes, this changes as we go RP and things evolve. However, one constant for me, BP or RP, has been the desire to influence lives in a positive way. I know that when I look at my nephew, I'd kill for the kid so I can only imagine how powerful my instinct will become with kids of my own. The mother will know this. Woman nurture and men mold, if she won't agree than she can go back to her bottle of wine and US Weekly.

Lastly, how long do you think the current environment will continue to last for? Last call is coming and women will subconsciously be looking for the strongest house to hole up in.
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#95

Are you a father, or do you want to be?

So what's the over/under on amount of kids each forum member is going to have?

Pretty sure there's going to be a lot of dads popping out kids in the next 5-10 years. This forum will single handedly turn the west's birth rate around!
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#96

Are you a father, or do you want to be?

Well my dad had 7 and managed to put us all through the finest schools etc and produce 7 amazing human beings.

I intend to have 2 at a minimum in the next 5 years...if finances allow, 4.

The indeterminable factor is sons. I'll keep going forever till I get an heir.
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#97

Are you a father, or do you want to be?

Quote: (09-30-2015 02:03 PM)CrashBangWallop Wrote:  

Well my dad had 7 and managed to put us all through the finest schools etc and produce 7 amazing human beings.

I intend to have 2 at a minimum in the next 5 years...if finances allow, 4.

The indeterminable factor is sons. I'll keep going forever till I get an heir.

Agreed, i'd love my daughters and shit test the living hell out of them. But goodness I want an heir.

Here's a more serious question for the group, what would you guys do if your son came out [Image: huh.gif]
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#98

Are you a father, or do you want to be?

Quote: (09-30-2015 01:53 PM)The Beast1 Wrote:  

So what's the over/under on amount of kids each forum member is going to have?

Pretty sure there's going to be a lot of dads popping out kids in the next 5-10 years. This forum will single handedly turn the west's birth rate around!

Smart money is on me having a basketball team. Five kids, none of this onesie twosie halfheartedness.

Also, I want to have a son with my 26-year-old Japanese wife when I'm 56 and name him Isoroku (五十六, "Fifty-six") after Admiral Yamamoto Isoroku.
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#99

Are you a father, or do you want to be?

Quote: (09-30-2015 01:53 PM)The Beast1 Wrote:  

So what's the over/under on amount of kids each forum member is going to have?

We have a goal of 5 kids which means 4 more to go. If we wind up having 5 girls, we'll keep going until we have a boy. That's the plan so far.

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Are you a father, or do you want to be?

Have said this before...

When you are ready to get married and have kids, change your game completely.

Instead of "chasing pussy" you are now "looking for the mother of your children". Completely different process.

Here's what you do. Sit down, write a letter to yourself about the kind of woman you want to bear your children and grow old with. Don't bullshit yourself.

If you letter contains these words "I want her to stay thin forever" or "I don't want her boobs to sag" then you are still an idiot and not ready to protect a family.

Above all, remember, that every woman in the world, when she realizes you are looking for a wife, will throw their friends, daughters, and sisters in your path. 99.999% of them are utterly useless as wives. Ignore them all. Women are universally useless idiots when it comes to marriage. Instead solicit the advice of uncles and grandfathers.

Remember that as a man, it is your sacred duty to only choose the best woman as your wife. You and you alone choose. You must choose very, very sparingly.

The future of our world depends on the quality of children we create. The quality of children is determined by how carefully you cull out all those worthless women, and find the one that is right for you.

Don't just impregnate somebody. That's so fucking stupid. Find a mate. Marry her. Build her a house. Have kids. Luxuriate in the joy of knowing that you created a little world for those kids to run around and laugh. Are you worried about divorce? Don't fucking LET a divorce happen. Be one of those stupid couples that stay married for 55 years and die on the same day.

Oh one other piece of advice. She should smell great. I don't mean "like perfume" I mean, she should smell like the earth, like nature, like a hurricane, like you could fuck her forever and feel smug about it. Smell is how your genetic structure determines if her genetic structure is ideal for making high quality babies. Looks and personality are important too, but smell ultimately determines genetic match, and it's wired so deeply into your cellular structure, that if you ignore smell you are ignoring a billion years of evolution. All animals choose their mates by smell, only humans are stupid enough to have invented internet dating.
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