[MrXY]

You did fine.

Sounds like the girl was shy and inexperienced too. When both people are in inexperienced things move slowly.

Don't make every date into a major thing; its just a date.

Ask her out again and try to isolate her.

In the meantime approach other girls.

[AllStar]

(12-17-2014 08:49 PM)Nascimento Wrote:  

Don't sweat it. Enjoy and have fun, learn to recognize areas where you did well and ones you can improve.

If there is one piece of advice I can give you is to be willing to make mistakes, learn from them, and enjoy the process.

Thanks for the advice, I definitely agree. Enjoying the process (and the end result) is what makes game fun. I had more fun on my first date then I've had in a while, as before my life pretty much consisted of going to school, hanging out with friends and playing hockey, which is still pretty fun, but not as much fun as hanging out with attractive girls.

[AllStar]

I finally got my first kiss.

My date on Thursday ended up flaking, but I had scheduled a movie date on Friday with an Asian chick I had met last week. I would say she's around a 7; just an average Asian face (I don't really care for Asian faces) but a super nice body. She came over to my place and I took her straight to the bed and we started watching the movie. When I first started touching her she kept trying to stop me, but I kept pushing throughout the movie and ended up grinding on top of her and making out for about ten minutes. I couldn't get her to go any farther and she had to catch a bus back at college so I dropped her off and then went back home.

It felt pretty good, but not as good as I thought it would. I didn't really connect as much with this girl as I did with the Latina. I think I have a case of oneitis with the Latina. I just need to keep getting with more girls and hopefully it will go away. I haven't done an approach for almost five days, which is inexcusable.

Anyways, now I am off to my college graduation. I'm going to miss college a lot, and I wish I would have found this forum when I was just starting college. Better late than never though.

[AllStar]

So I just got a text from the Latina that says:

"Hi sorry to bother you but my roommate wants me to ask if you would be interested in having her number"

Does this mean the Latina isn't in to me, or what does this mean? I really like the Latina, and her roommate isn't all that hot, she just has big tits. Now that I think about it I was talking to her roommate too much.

How do I respond to this?

[Dr. Howard]

(12-22-2014 12:04 AM)AllStar Wrote:  

So I just got a text from the Latina that says:

"Hi sorry to bother you but my roommate wants me to ask if you would be interested in having her number"

Does this mean the Latina isn't in to me, or what does this mean? I really like the Latina, and her roommate isn't all that hot, she just has big tits. Now that I think about it I was talking to her roommate too much.

How do I respond to this?

probably means that the latina isn't that into you OR thinks you aren't that into her because nothing really happened on your date.

Options:
1. This would be an easy bang on the roommate, I mean ridiculously easy.
2. If you would rather not bang the roommate you can go for a hail mary response: "I don't think thats a good idea, I was interested in hanging out with you again and don't want to make things weird between you and the roommate if I'm seeing you both"

This is a suave way to turn down the roommate and express interest to the Latina HOWEVER its also likely that this will 'scare the cat' and the Latina will go radio silence. Probably a 30% chance of success but its not like you have any better options to come around on the latina anyway.

[AllStar]

Thanks Dr. Howard. I went with something like this:

"Ummm yeah sure... I take it this means your not interested in me then?"

She replies with; "You've been so nice to me I didn't know how to tell you but I've been messing around with someone else. Sorry if I mislead you..."

I should have pushed harder on the first date, I was probably being too much of a nice guy. Oh well, this is a learning experience, now I'll focus on her roommate. I'm just glad I found this forum.

Edit: She just texted me again: "I tried saying this in the nicest way possible.." Got to love girls and their hamsters. On to the next one.

[Goldfinger]

(12-22-2014 02:48 PM)AllStar Wrote:  

Thanks Dr. Howard. I went with something like this:

"Ummm yeah sure... I take it this means your not interested in me then?"

She replies with; "You've been so nice to me I didn't know how to tell you but I've been messing around with someone else. Sorry if I mislead you..."

I should have pushed harder on the first date, I was probably being too much of a nice guy. Oh well, this is a learning experience, now I'll focus on her roommate. I'm just glad I found this forum.

Edit: She just texted me again: "I tried saying this in the nicest way possible.." Got to love girls and their hamsters. On to the next one.

Great learning experience right in front of you man. Don't act mad or upset that she isn't into you. Get her roommates number then bang her with the power of a thousand suns and i guarantee the original girl will be on your jock once the story circulates.

[Sonsowey]

I would have responded to the "I've been messing around with another guy" message with

"OK well don't tell him about me" and just seen if you could continue it.

But of course, carry on meeting other girls, it is nothing but a numbers game at this point.

Get them somewhere private for a kiss that is all you need.

To build up tension before the kiss you can do the cheesy yet effective salsa-spin move where you spin her, pull her into you and kiss her. Usually works.

[Dr. Howard]

(12-22-2014 02:48 PM)AllStar Wrote:  

Thanks Dr. Howard. I went with something like this:

"Ummm yeah sure... I take it this means your not interested in me then?"

She replies with; "You've been so nice to me I didn't know how to tell you but I've been messing around with someone else. Sorry if I mislead you..."

I should have pushed harder on the first date, I was probably being too much of a nice guy. Oh well, this is a learning experience, now I'll focus on her roommate. I'm just glad I found this forum.

Edit: She just texted me again: "I tried saying this in the nicest way possible.." Got to love girls and their hamsters. On to the next one.

This is great! Well played and we have now established that the latina is a current or potential cock slut. Banging the roommate with the big tits will not hurt you and keep the latina in your 'restart texts' folder and include her on group holiday messages.

[MrXY]

The roommate wants your dick. This is a great opportunity to practice game on lose your virginity. Text with her a bit, set up a simple date and get her somewhere you can make out. Don't go for the bang unless she's making it obvious she wants it. Second date, isolate and try to bang. Don't be too nice!. Don't be a dick, but be cocky and confident. Touch her frequently from the start; read DiCarlos Escalation Ladder and roughly follow that sequence. Don't worry about her not being the best looking you need the experience. And big tittys are fun!

[TripleG]

(12-22-2014 02:48 PM)AllStar Wrote:  

Thanks Dr. Howard. I went with something like this:

"Ummm yeah sure... I take it this means your not interested in me then?"

She replies with; "You've been so nice to me I didn't know how to tell you but I've been messing around with someone else. Sorry if I mislead you..."

I should have pushed harder on the first date, I was probably being too much of a nice guy. Oh well, this is a learning experience, now I'll focus on her roommate. I'm just glad I found this forum.

Edit: She just texted me again: "I tried saying this in the nicest way possible.." Got to love girls and their hamsters. On to the next one.

Drop both of these girls ASAP and pursue better fish via day-fishing
Also, since you're a virgin see if you can fool around with a better girl than the Indian roommate who you indicated in previous posts doesn't look good.

[AllStar]

So I finally got the bang.

After I got back from break (I took a vacation which was a blast) I started working full time. It's 60+ hour weeks right now so it kind of sucks but it is what it is I guess.

The Indian chick started snapchatting me and wanted to hang out so I invited her over for a movie. My roommate was home so we went into the bedroom and we ended up making out and banging. She looks a lot like Mindy Kaling (who I don't find all that attractive) but she did have a great set of tits and a decent body. She wants to meet up again so it worked out pretty well.

[Natural Nomad]

Read the rest of the thread. Looking good AllStar. I could sit here and tell you all kinds of shit but the bust advice I can give you is to keep going. If you keep doing what you are doing (learning, reading game and most importantly approaching women) the rest will auto correct.

[heavy]

CONGRATS!

[Built to Fade]

I really enjoyed reading this thread because Allstar reminds me of myself at one time, maybe 10 years ago. I think its awesome how many of the experienced members of RVF came out to help him, it really is a community or whatever. Anyways, congrats bro on your accomplishments and don't stop improving your game in every way, shape and form. Keep up the approaches and dates, with more experience it becomes much easier.

My only advice is don't worry about the alcohol thing. Some guys use it as a crutch because they don't feel comfortable without it while gaming. The reason you buy a girl a drink is because she deserves it and you want her to feel more comfortable. Alcohol isn't not needed, but it can help.

[AllStar]

Hey guys,

It's been a while since I posted on the forum as things are finally slowing down a bit in my life. This forum and the advice on it has helped me tremendously when it comes to girls and it has also helped me become a lot more outgoing in meeting new people in general, so I just wanted to say thanks.

Quick update of where I've been: So I have had sex with a few other girls. I have also had a lot more makeouts and also gotten a few girls naked but no bang. Recently I've been slacking off in approaching girls because I've been super busy with other things in my life but now I'm going to try to do a lot more approaching. Summer is coming up and the time spent in the gym over the past few years has paid off, so I'm pretty excited for what the future holds.

Thanks again
-AllStar

[SUPER1NE]

this is actually inspirational to me. i also somewhat inexperienced and a virgin. great share, should probably find time to keep practising game. don't slack off because you got some lays down. congrats mate.

[Ausguy]

Dont focus on banging her yet...

Seduction

1 eye contact
2 talk
3 physical contact
4 kiss
5 foreplay
6 oral
7 sex

Start mastering each step, you aren't ready for 7 yet but it will be depending on how much time you put in to getting numbers. I believe you are up to 3 or 4.

3. when I talk a woman, if I want to get in close I turn to the side (non threating). If you talk face to face (very close) it's threating at first. So for example you are right next to her, say "what" as if you didn't hear her, move in with your ear and put your hand on her lower back. If she doesn't move away she is comfortable with 3. You can start turning your body towards hers. If she pulls away, move back and repeat (give and go). Giving physical contact then pull away makes a girl hot for more. Make sure you look deep into her eyes as well. Don't look down (beta), look up if you need to look away.

After you take her out to a place, later on just grab her hand when you are going to another location and hold it.

4. Kiss test- talk to her face to face (once she is comfortable with 3) and start whispering in her ear (works best in a loud environment). Now get in very close when u need to say something (your lips and her lips nearly touch) then detour to her ear. If she moves back, she isn't ready to be kissed yet so repeat 3 a bit more. Pull back on 3 for a little then start 3 and redo the kiss test. If she doesn't move her head back, kiss her cause that is what she wants.

ALWAYS go for the kiss at the end of the date. Who cares if she rejects you, 9/10 of the time she is going on a date with you cause she likes you and is just waiting for you to kiss her. If you don't make an emotional impact such as a kiss, the chances of seeing her again is slim.

If you want to take her back to your place, just say "have you seen (something interesting you have at home)." Hopefully she will say no then jump into your car and take her back to your place. It's also always good to get her to drive to your place for a date, that way she has to come back to your place.

For now practice 3 and 4 which is basically foreplay for women which gets them wet. Once you are back at your place it's very easy to escalate into sex. Just start making out with her (you on top), dry rooting, start feeling her up, get her to do the same and just take her pants off and fuck her. I usually skip oral until later these days, I prefer to jump a step

[AllStar]

Thanks Ausguy, although I did get the bang as that was a while ago. To all the guys getting into the game just be patient, the results will come!

[ClintTalks]

Good job man.

[AllStar]

Just wanted to share - for any guys getting into game you should definitely consider Tinder. It made game way too easy for me once I got it. I've had Tinder for about two and a half months and have met over 30 girls, made out with 25 of them and banged about half of them. It killed my motivation to go approaching, but I still do it occasionally for practice. If your good looking and can throw some solid game at girls, you should have no problem getting some off of Tinder.