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Day game approach success today.
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Day game approach success today.

After yesterday's failure, I went out again today to practice day game. I don't drink so bars and clubs are sort of out, and online is OK, but the women whom I get the most attention from there are in their very late 20s and early 30s, often provider-hunters perhaps with a kid, and have nuclear levels of baggage, shit-tests, and ASD for what they are.

So I've decided my best course of action is to become a day game master. School's back in session and in this area there are hot college girls crawling out of the woodwork everywhere. I think in day game I'll just ignore any woman who looks a day over 25.

I was at the local coffee shop this morning chilling on one of the sofas and ended up chatting with a blonde college student next to me doing her homework, who didn't have any headphones in (I assume that when women that age don't have headphones jammed in their ears it means they're open to talking with people). She was wearing the usual uniform of North Face jacket and yoga pants; I'd say she was a "6" as her face was not beautiful, but she was tall and had a tan, toned body. She seemed a bit ditzy and wasn't a huge talker, but she put her phone down immediately, looked me in the eyes and laughed whenever I made a comment to her about something amusing going on in the place.

She was confused about some homework problem, and as I was about to leave I sensed my opening and handed her a slip of paper and pen and said "yeah, I had to do those courses at one time as well. why don't you gimme your info and I'll let you know what I find out about it." She readily agreed and wrote her name and number on the paper and gave it to me.

I'd guess she's not more than 22 years old. I haven't really interacted with girls that age in a romantic sense since I was, well, 22 (I'm in my mid-30s now) so I don't really know how to proceed from here. I'm not even sure how mature they are these days, but I'm guessing that there's more sophistication behind the ditz behavior than I'd guess. I'm not sure the best texting script to use to set things up.

She understands that the whole homework thing is a pretext and she's giving me her number (assuming she didn't just give it to me to be nice and end the interaction) because I want to put my cock in her, right? Right?

Edit: I already have a couple dates scheduled in for this week and I don't really want to waste a lot of time on a dead prospect. She's not so cute that if she bails on me I feel it would be a great loss - is there a reason with a girl this age to not basically go sexual pretty much right off the bat? I don't want to come off as some old creeper, though.
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Day game approach success today.

Quote: (09-27-2015 01:45 PM)XPQ21 Wrote:  

I'd guess she's not more than 22 years old. I haven't really interacted with girls that age in a romantic sense since I was, well, 22 (I'm in my mid-30s now) so I don't really know how to proceed from here. I'm not even sure how mature they are these days, but I'm guessing that there's more sophistication behind the ditz behavior than I'd guess. I'm not sure the best texting script to use to set things up.

I don't see what difference it would make. Just ask her out on a date.

Nice meeting you blah blah
How's the study of whatever going blah blah
I know a nice place called blah, want to get a drink there one day etc?
"Sorry can't, I hate you because you're an old creeper" -> "k thx bye"
"Your offer of possible dick is appealing" -> "OK when's good etc?"

How she feels about age depends on the girl, and isn't up to you. Some chicks her age have zero interest in someone in their own age group, others won't accept a guy much different to their age, and others don't factor it in much. The other day I was getting food and started talking to some dude with a girl who was maybe 27 and hot, and he said he was 45. One thing I did notice was that he was exceptionally 'cool', in that he had this very calm and cheerful personality, like a guy who's having an easy and enjoyable life. The chick no doubt detected a winner, and the age wasn't that important to her.
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Day game approach success today.

Quote: (09-27-2015 02:21 PM)Phoenix Wrote:  

How she feels about age depends on the girl, and isn't up to you. Some chicks her age have zero interest in someone in their own age group, others won't accept a guy much different to their age, and others don't factor it in much. The other day I was getting food and started talking to some dude with a girl who was maybe 27 and hot, and he said he was 45. One thing I did notice was that he was exceptionally 'cool', in that he had this very calm and cheerful personality, like a guy who's having an easy and enjoyable life. The chick no doubt detected a winner, and the age wasn't that important to her.

I like to think that's the type of personality my attempts to become "outcome independent" will bring to fore more and more.

It's true - in my area at least seeing dudes in their 40s with women in their mid 20s is common as shit, and from casual observation they don't seem to even have that much appealing about them, physically and conversationally, at least.
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Day game approach success today.

It's been floating around for a while, but I don't think 'outcome independent' is the right term. We're deluding ourselves to say "we don't care about the outcome", because if that was the case we wouldn't bother, so we're never going to truly believe in this term when we're using it.

It's more "not expecting a good outcome". You obviously want a good outcome, but because you aren't in control of the outcome beyond "placing your bid", not expecting a good outcome is the best attitude. I think this attitude is quite similar to the attitude of good salesmen.

I've found that I've automatically grown into this attitude out of necessity. It's the only way to keep your emotions stable: otherwise you're constantly bouncing between elated and depressed. It also gives you a bigger-picture view of things. You see this interaction as merely part of your interaction with women generally, rather than a narrow-focus on that particular girl at this particular time. You see a negative outcomes as being merely 'part of the system', to be expected as much as positive outcomes, rather than marking yourself with the label of 'success' or 'failure' each time. You also find that this attitude makes you appear calm or 'steady', and that's generally attractive for daygame or dates (but obviously not so much for nightlife).

When seen this way, life becomes a lot more 'observational'. You put in the work generally and long term focused: improving yourself, approaching girls, courting them etc. You then observe what comes back, and keep note of that information when making adjustments. Kind of like a heavy flywheel versus a light one.
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Day game approach success today.

Re.: "outcome independent."
The way I look at things in general (approaching a woman, interviewing, or anything else in life) is that I can only control the input. I care about the output (obviously) but don't beat myself up if I don't succeed, because I can't control how people react.
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