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The Push to Normalize Pedophilia Begins
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When does this get added to the new Canadian school curriculum? It's inevitable considering the scheduling of the other word salad bullshit.

edit; The sooner the left comes out to openly bat for the pedophiles, the sooner we can just call them all pedophiles. Much better than designating them marxist/leftist/etc., because it directly connects them as the degenerates they are. They choose their allies, and I think it's absolutely fantastic that they are choosing the worst so soon. Shit, they skipped right over zoophiles and necrophiliacs and went straight to chimos.

Gonna vote for Hillary? You sick fucking kiddy diddler.

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We can do better than that....and we really do need something that's better than "teabagger".
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The truth is that leftists - true leftists, not those who outgrow it - are usually bad people, really bad people. Anyone who has been around enough of them realize this. They lack respect for boundaries. They constantly lie to themselves. Their lack of deeply held moral convictions make them test the boundaries of respectable behavior, which in turn aggrevates their self loating, which makes them double down. In for a penny, in for a pound.
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Quote: (09-24-2015 10:28 AM)Cr33pin Wrote:  




The top rated comment on this video is frightening.

The guy says "well as long as they aren't hurting anyone, who am I to judge since we all have sexual fantasies."

I told him that I can and will judge because these "fantasies" are defective aberrations on the human race and must be ruthlessly suppressed.

This is the result of this "don't judge," "anything goes and nothing matters" mentality. This is the first step along the road and they are playing right into the degenerates' hand.

Don't judge as long as they aren't hurting anyone>maybe they aren't so bad after all>we need to have a discussion because some people are being treated unfairly>we demand our rights! all we're asking for is tolerance!>legislative/cultural drives>legislative/cultural drives are successful>celebrate these people or you are a bigot and must be punished.

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Quote: (09-25-2015 09:20 PM)Libertas Wrote:  

Quote: (09-24-2015 10:28 AM)Cr33pin Wrote:  




The top rated comment on this video is frightening.

The guy says "well as long as they aren't hurting anyone, who am I to judge since we all have sexual fantasies."

I told him that I can and will judge because these "fantasies" are defective aberrations on the human race and must be ruthlessly suppressed.

This is the result of this "don't judge," "anything goes and nothing matters" mentality. This is the first step along the road and they are playing right into the degenerates' hand.

Don't judge as long as they aren't hurting anyone>maybe they aren't so bad after all>we need to have a discussion because some people are being treated unfairly>we demand our rights! all we're asking for is tolerance!>legislative/cultural drives>legislative/cultural drives are successful>celebrate these people or you are a bigot and must be punished.

Libertarianism is a fucking crock.

Pedophilia is also incurable. It's a sexual perversion and classified psychiatric disorder that is right up there with psychopathy as being difficult to impossible to treat.

The options are either to sedate these people 24-7 or castrate them to lower their deviant sex drive. It's almost guaranteed they will reoffend when they are in society.

The most efficient and practical option for society would be a control shot to the back of the head and a final kick into the self dug hole in the ground.
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I agree. There are only two options for dealing with pedophiles - castration or death. They must remain in the darkness. There is no room for negotiation.

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Quote: (09-25-2015 09:33 PM)Libertas Wrote:  

I agree. There are only two options for dealing with pedophiles - castration or death. They must remain in the darkness. There is no room for negotiation.

It should be treated as a condition, not a sexual orientation. I am willing to accept that pedophiles have an unfortunate wiring of the brain that makes then that way, in the same way gays brains aren't right. But to gain acceptance from society, they need to be physically (not chemically) castrated.
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Quote: (09-25-2015 09:44 PM)Horus Wrote:  

Quote: (09-25-2015 09:33 PM)Libertas Wrote:  

I agree. There are only two options for dealing with pedophiles - castration or death. They must remain in the darkness. There is no room for negotiation.

It should be treated as a condition, not a sexual orientation. I am willing to accept that pedophiles have an unfortunate wiring of the brain that makes then that way, in the same way gays brains aren't right. But to gain acceptance from society, they need to be physically (not chemically) castrated.

Nearly ten years ago, a friend of mine was falsely accused of molesting a kid. He had to undergo a "treatment" plan through "Care-Net" (not the crisis pregnancy group). His evaluations concluded that he had no inclinations toward pedophilia, yet he still had to go through the therapy, which essentially was nothing more than a Pavlovian conditioning program where he was actually shown kiddie porn while having odors like rotten meat and burning flesh piped into his nose.
The courts had to play fast and loose with the laws to be able to charge him with an actual crime (apparently in that jurisdiction, it's a sex crime for an adult male to take an unrelated child to the bathroom), as the accusers stories kept changing, and his psych evaluations all said he was pretty much innocent. Still had to serve 3 months in jail, a few years of probation, and of course, had to go on the registry.

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Quote: (09-25-2015 10:28 PM)Fitzgerald Wrote:  

Nearly ten years ago, a friend of mine was falsely accused of molesting a kid. He had to undergo a "treatment" plan through "Care-Net" (not the crisis pregnancy group). His evaluations concluded that he had no inclinations toward pedophilia, yet he still had to go through the therapy, which essentially was nothing more than a Pavlovian conditioning program where he was actually shown kiddie porn while having odors like rotten meat and burning flesh piped into his nose.
The courts had to play fast and loose with the laws to be able to charge him with an actual crime (apparently in that jurisdiction, it's a sex crime for an adult male to take an unrelated child to the bathroom), as the accusers stories kept changing, and his psych evaluations all said he was pretty much innocent. Still had to serve 3 months in jail, a few years of probation, and of course, had to go on the registry.

Are you sure he was shown child porn as part of his therapy? Are you sure he is telling the whole truth? I find that very difficult to believe.
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Quote: (09-25-2015 10:28 PM)Fitzgerald Wrote:  

Quote: (09-25-2015 09:44 PM)Horus Wrote:  

Quote: (09-25-2015 09:33 PM)Libertas Wrote:  

I agree. There are only two options for dealing with pedophiles - castration or death. They must remain in the darkness. There is no room for negotiation.

It should be treated as a condition, not a sexual orientation. I am willing to accept that pedophiles have an unfortunate wiring of the brain that makes then that way, in the same way gays brains aren't right. But to gain acceptance from society, they need to be physically (not chemically) castrated.

Nearly ten years ago, a friend of mine was falsely accused of molesting a kid. He had to undergo a "treatment" plan through "Care-Net" (not the crisis pregnancy group). His evaluations concluded that he had no inclinations toward pedophilia, yet he still had to go through the therapy, which essentially was nothing more than a Pavlovian conditioning program where he was actually shown kiddie porn while having odors like rotten meat and burning flesh piped into his nose.
The courts had to play fast and loose with the laws to be able to charge him with an actual crime (apparently in that jurisdiction, it's a sex crime for an adult male to take an unrelated child to the bathroom), as the accusers stories kept changing, and his psych evaluations all said he was pretty much innocent. Still had to serve 3 months in jail, a few years of probation, and of course, had to go on the registry.

Although I find this story hard to believe (but not impossible), you do bring up valid points of having harsh punishments for child molesters leading to harsh punishments for innocent men (and maybe even women). In general, pedophile women aren't as much of a threat as pedo men are. If a woman abuses a boy, there is probably a much greater chance he'll be okay when he grows up than a girl. Girls are far more fragile both as children and adults then men. Everyone knows how quickly women are damaged by sex versus men. I assume the same must be true for male and female children as well.

All in all, the only real way I believe we could determine if a man is a pedophile is to strap some kind of blood monitoring device to his dick while showing him "risque" images of children. If the dick engorges we know he is a pedo and must be dealt with.

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Don't be fooled, the next step is polyamory. Then will come pedophilia.
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The Ben Levin Sex-Ed curriculum and the victim-portraying of sex abuser teachers such as Mary Kay Letourneau are two incidences where the mainstream media is at least trying to desensitize the public about people who act in positions of authority who breach the trust of children.

Meanwhile in Toronto, a 27-year-old guy who approaches an 18-year-old college chick is viewed as a "creep".
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Grizzly Bear just gave me this heads up, where Salon doubles down:

I’m a pedophile, you’re the monsters: My week inside the vile right-wing hate machine

Note the Virtue-signalling: not having understanding for Pedos means you're Right-Wing, and, therefore Not a Goodperson.

This is hitting these two flags I mentioned:

-> educated people need to be tolerant
-> support these people or you're ignorant

And it's working. The comments are so progressively-enlightened I want to eat the business end of a shotgun than exist in the glorious, progressive future.
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Quote: (09-26-2015 08:59 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

In general, pedophile women aren't as much of a threat as pedo men are. If a woman abuses a boy, there is probably a much greater chance he'll be okay when he grows up than a girl.

This isn't true. A friend of mine suffered this at the hands of his mother and her friends; I can tell that it still deeply scars him. This guy's ex-spec-ops, and I admire his courage in battling that past 10x as much as I admire his courage in serving our country. He hasn't shared all the details with me, but from what I've read female pedophiles tend to use painful objects to penetrate their victims (and by painful I mean cactus - literally).

Regarding this whole situation: what we're seeing is a manipulated Hegelian Dialectic, a false-narrative and false-history, to create a pre-determined synthesis of acceptance.

Start with the premise that most pedophiles are victims themselves (they usually are - it's a tragic and disgusting cycle of abuse). This doesn't in any way justify their disgusting fixation, but if they're trying to overcome it with the help of a priest or therapist then THAT PERSON should show them sympathy (not the general public, mind you - don't dump your bad karma on other people).

Now, here is the narrative being offered by the left (I presume you all know Hegelian Dialectics):

Thesis: Society has demonized pedophiles and burned them at the stake for fun, never accepting that they are victims too, trying to overcome their past.

Antithesis: Virtuous Pedophile Support Organizations.

Synthesis: Paedophilia is a sexual orientation.

That's what things look like, right? And it's the kiddy-diddling that we're all opposed to, not judging people for their sexual hang-ups, right? Except there's more to the story: the historical Thesis of the Silent Majority/Middle America is not the true Thesis of our society; in fact, it is the reactionary Antithesis, intentionally manufactured by the Gramsci-ists and Cultural Marxists who've taken over the cultural institutions, and have been leaking their Thesis into our drinking water for decades.

Thesis (covert): NAMBLA, Children are Sexual Creatures, GLBT, Lesbianism, Homophilia, Masturbation, Abortion.

Antithesis (reactionary): Deep in their guts people sense the above agenda; this leads to Stranger Danger and witch hunts, culminating in shows like To Catch A Predator, a show that is nothing but a 2 Minute Hate for Middle America, where they 'arrest' (but never prosecute) 25 year old men for trying to have sex with a 15 year old (inappropriate, but not paedophilia). It's a pressure release valve which trains people to have extreme, irrational hatred of 'pedophiles' while ignoring the pedophiles writing school curriculum; it also provides an excellent straw man for the Thesis activists to attack.

Synthesis (planned): The extreme judgmentalism (pharisitical, prideful, self-righteous) of the TCaP crowd, the idiocy of arresting teenagers for sexting each other, is used to manufacture a seemingly rational conclusion that Paedophilia is a "Sexual Orientation" rather than an unhealthy fetish/fixation.

It's all in the details. Create a moral panic so that your stance seems reasonable, but be careful about the language. "Virtuous Pedophiles", "Sexual Orientation", et cetera. THIS is how the narrative is controlled.

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Three more I'd missed, all since Oct 2014. Enlighten and educate yourself, shitlords!

Pedophilia A Disorder Not A Crime - New York Times

It's time to reconsider how we treat pedophiles - The Daily Dot

5 Ways We Misunderstand Pedophila That Makes It Worse - Cracked
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Quote: (09-30-2015 09:11 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  

Three more I'd missed, all since Oct 2014. Enlighten and educate yourself, shitlords!

Pedophilia A Disorder Not A Crime - New York Times

It's time to reconsider how we treat pedophiles - The Daily Dot

5 Ways We Misunderstand Pedophila That Makes It Worse - Cracked

The best way to lie is to wrap it in the truth.

Psychological practices are often sound; I skimmed the Cracked article (I don't have the stomach to read much more of this stuff) and I'm willing to bet that the Prevention Project Dunkenfield -

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...which provides "confidential treatment, free of charge" for anyone who is attracted to kids and/or teenagers and is trying their damnedest not to act on it...

- is doing a lot of good in the world. Helping those who were victimized themselves, or pushed into early sexuality by irresponsible single mothers, what have you. They're helping prevent those people from becoming victimizers and perpetuating the cycle.

The problem comes from modern psychology's foundational premise: extreme atheistic materialism and nihilism, no God, morality, or theology, ergo mental disorders aren't distinct moral issues, they're merely social aberrations; they're culturally relative. Change the person or change the culture, all one and the same, none of it matters. "Paedophilia is Evil" is merely a cultural perspective, no more true than our opinion that 2+2=4.

The study and treatment of aberrant psychology is always going to be disquieting; it isn't for the faint of heart. If I seem lax in my condemnations on all of this, it's because I've studied Evil quite thoroughly; I've stared into the abyss without blinking, and I saw it tremble... but most people are better off not looking into it. The authoress Madeleine L'Engle in her "Time Quintet" series wrote about how Evil doesn't differentiate between the murder of one man and the murder of an entire galaxy; similarly, the evil of these Leftist pedophiles is no greater or lesser in moral worth than the profound envy that leads them to socialism, or the wrath that leads them to ethno masochism. All of them wind up hurting children in different ways, after all; all of them destroy innocence.

This 'mainstreaming' of the abyss - of popularizing perspectives that only psychologists and exorcists should be aware of - is merely another attempt at corrupting the common man.
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Quote: (09-30-2015 09:22 PM)Aurini Wrote:  

If I seem lax in my condemnations on all of this, it's because I've studied Evil quite thoroughly; I've stared into the abyss without blinking, and I saw it tremble... but most people are better off not looking into it.

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Quote: (09-30-2015 02:59 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  

Note the Virtue-signalling: not having understanding for Pedos means you're Right-Wing, and, therefore Not a Goodperson.

Strange, if someone calls me right-wing I take it as a compliment and beam with joy. Maybe I'm broken. I'll check into re-education first thing tomorrow.
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We've seen this all before in the 1970's. Back then the country was still reeling from the sexual revolution of the 60's and couldn't sort things out. Finally, they realized that just maybe having crazed sex fiends around your kids was a bad idea. But the sheeple has a short memory and has forgotten many things. After the boomers started having kids they became horrified to learn that there were monsters who would try and molest them, so the whole Satanic Panic attach took place to move the window away from the real perpetrators. But back to the 70's: there were plenty of movies back then that portrayed this aberration as a good thing: PRETTY BABY, SUMMER OF '42, FRIENDS, it was years before people came to their senses. I had my name removed from a torrent tracker months ago because the idiots featured a 70's movie from Italy which glorified this abomination. Yeah, you really want to get sick, search out the European movie takes on the theme.
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https://www.yahoo.com/parenting/i-have-n...64278.html

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I Have No Problem With My Tween Wearing Sexy Halloween Costumes

Tweens are supposed to experiment with their sexuality. It’s normal.

It’s Halloween season again. So far, my nine-year-old daughter with heavy tween tendencies has wanted to be a broken porcelain doll, a Cheshire Cat girl, and a Galaxy Cat. I’m rooting for the Cheshire Cat girl, personally. All of these costumes will likely involve either a short skirt or dress-over leggings, or just leggings and a shirt (that’s the Galaxy Cat).

She’s not yet at an age where she wants to explore being sexy with her Halloween costume, something I fully expect and understand her wanting to do in a couple of years.

I’ve already read a half dozen articles so far this year about “sexy” costumes for tween and teen girls. Let’s be very clear about this problem with sexy costumes for kids: we’re only talking about girls here. I haven’t heard a soul complain about boy costumes — and that’s telling.

And sure, we sexualize girls pretty early these days, at least when it comes to clothes, while also panicking about pedophiles and sex offenders. It’s a weird dichotomy.

When Shakespeare wrote “Romeo and Juliet,” there was no such thing as the period we now call adolescence. You were a child, and then when you became sexually mature, you were an adult.

Because of more abundant food, sexual maturity now happens earlier, and the concept of the sexually mature but “growing child” of adolescence was created.

Historian Joseph F. Kett discusses this in an abstract from a paper on the “History of Adolescence in America”:

“The concept of adolescence was developed in the United States between 1890 and 1920. In the hands of G. Stanley Hall and his many followers, adolescence required a moratorium on the assumption of adult responsibilities by teenagers. This prescription of a moratorium broke sharply with the advice given to youth in the 19th century, which urged the quick assumption of adult responsibilities.

Although the concept of adolescence emerged at a time when enrollments in public high schools were increasing at a much faster pace than the population, it is misleading to conclude that the idea of a moratorium during adolescence merely ratified the gradual removal of early teens from productive employment.

Rather than describing the experience of teenagers, the discourse on adolescence in this and subsequent periods has primarily reflected the challenges that adults saw to their own values and the ways in which they adapted to change.”

So basically, you’ve got sexually mature humans forced to live under a newly-constructed definition of “child” and behave accordingly. This conflicts with every signal they’re getting from their own bodies.

Our kids’ bodies are packed full of hormones sending their brains all sorts of chemical messages about sex. For the vast majority of humanity’s existence, tweens and teens became sexually active as soon as their bodies were fertile.

So tweens and teens are supposed to experiment with their image, their gender identity, and yes, even their sexuality. It’s normal.

When I was eleven and twelve, my mother wouldn’t allow me to wear makeup. So what did I do? I put it on while riding the school bus, of course. I wanted to be pretty and I wanted to impress boys.

I also had a dress I adored: a faux velvet with a slit up the leg to the knee (it was the 1970s, so this was a total disco dress). My mother kept asking me why I wanted to look like a prostitute, without really explaining to me what a prostitute looked like, ironically.

But that dress covered me up more than my normal tank top and shorts, so I was very confused about why it was wrong. I felt pretty while wearing it, so why was it bad?

My nine-year-old isn’t yet thinking about being sexy, but she is thinking about being cute. She’s also thinking about being scary, being silly, and being cool. Whatever she decides to wear for Halloween, I’ll let her choose within reason.

She can’t go naked or wear something that doesn’t match the temperature. But ultimately, I trust her to make choices that she’s comfortable with.

In a year or two I might wince a bit if she decides to wear a “hoochie” short skirt as part of her costume and suggest she wears leggings to keep warm, but I’m not going to tell her she’s wrong for wanting to experiment with looking pretty and, yes, even sexy — because she’s just being being a normal kid.

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I prefer to use this forum more for self improvement and travel reasons, but I have to intervene in this case. It was a long time coming but after reading the guardian today, I saw this article and subsequently another couple articles along with a C4 documentary on peadophilia.

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The first time Max Weber made his way to Berlin to take part in a therapy session, he was so nervous he vomited on the train. “I went straight home again and phoned the clinic to tell them I wouldn’t make it,” he said. “I was so shocked by what I was doing I was shaking all over.”

The second time was slightly easier. His hands were clammy and his heart was beating fast, but he took a deep breath as he stepped inside the ivy-clad red-brick building of the Charité hospital and climbed the stairs to meet the group. When he saw them, he got his next shock.

“There were thin, fat, tall and short men, aged between 20 and 60. I found out there was a banker, a church warden, a doctor, a student, an unemployed bloke, an actor – people from all walks of life.”

What Weber, then an engineering student in his mid-20s, had in common with the others was that they were all diagnosed paedophiles who had come voluntarily to receive treatment at the Charité’s institute for sexual medicine. “It was amazing for me to see how different everyone was,” said Weber. “I’d never met another paedophile before.”

The institute has been running the prevention project Dunkelfeld (which means dark field) for a decade. Since 2011, it has gradually developed into a nationwide network called “don’t offend”. What started in Berlin has spread to 10 other cities, with more centres planned so that eventually the programme will be easily accessible for anyone in Germany.

There is a radical difference between the treatment offered to paedophiles in Germany and that in other countries. Strict patient-doctor confidentiality rules mean the men can be assured they will not be reported to the police. They would only be excluded from the programme if there was an active prosecution against them.


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“I did not have to give my name and address, and I was given a pin number to connect me to my diagnosis data,” Weber, his chosen pseudonym, told the Guardian in a burger bar in central Berlin.

Those who run Dunkelfeld insist that the confidentiality clause is central to the unique project’s success and also accounts for its popularity.

“According to the German legal code, therapists are forbidden from revealing anything that happens in the context of treatment,” said Laura Kuhle, a clinical psychologist and one of Dunkelfeld’s therapists. “If people mention anything in therapy that could make them criminally culpable, they are protected. In other countries, that’s not the case.”

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Kuhle is convinced that, if patients were not guaranteed that confidentiality, most would not turn up at all and those that did would not be truly honest.

“We need them to be completely open about what has happened in their pasts, so that we can work with them as effectively as possible. What situations have they found themselves in? What were the individual events that led up to what’s happened to them until now? You can’t answer questions like that if you are afraid,” Kuhle said.

For Weber, who is keen to stress he has never offended although he admits to having been dangerously close to doing so, the confidentiality clause was key. “I was so petrified of anyone even finding out I was thinking of doing it, because of the obvious stigma attached to being a paedophile, I memorised the telephone number before calling the centre, out of fear that someone might find the number on me. That way no one could suspect me of anything,” he said.

Being diagnosed
It was during puberty that Weber first recognised his sexual attraction towards young girls. “I found the feelings threatening, exceptionally unpleasant, but I couldn’t really put a name to them,” he said. .

“I recognised that this had the potential to get very dangerous when I was in my early 20s, particularly after one encounter I had with a girl on a beach. I recognised I was drawn towards doing something sexual with the girl, at the same time as not wanting to do it at all because I knew it was wrong.”

Three times he planned to carry out what he calls “concrete assaults” on young children. Three times he was prevented from doing so by a mix of circumstance and his own fear. His mother, who apparently knew nothing of his tendencies, pointed out a television advert for Dunkelfeld. The ad asked: “Do you love children more than you’d like to?” and promised free therapy with medical confidentiality.


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Weber took down the number and went to a phone box to ring the hotline. “It felt surreal as it was the first time in my life I had talked to anyone about it, and the woman on the other end was so friendly, she talked to me as naturally as if she was giving me a recipe for biscuits,” he said.

At a subsequent appointment, Weber was diagnosed as a heteropaedophile because his feelings of sexual attraction for women were clearly subordinated by a stronger attraction towards young girls. He began the weekly three-hour therapy sessions, overseen by two therapists, with between six to 10 participants. The sessions took place at the end of a normal working day and were based on cognitive behavioural therapy methods.

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“At the start of each session, the participants talk about their experiences of the past week and what is on their minds,” said Kuhle. The treatment includes helping participants to understand the child’s perspective, learning to cope in potentially difficult situations such as birthday parties, and developing ways to overcome bad habits such as viewing pornographic images or having sexual fantasies, which can increase the likelihood of a paedophile offending.

“Sometimes,” said Weber, “the survival tactics involve something as simple as saying to yourself ‘count backwards from 100, in units of seven’.” But Weber was told early on that paedophilia, according to current understandings, is a non-curable mental disorder without a known cause.

Sessions accordingly touched on what could realistically be changed and what would stay the same. “That was a blow, to know I couldn’t be cured, but at the same time, there was relief to know it wasn’t my fault,” he said. “Vital for me was finally being able to look at myself in the mirror and say ‘you’re not a monster, you’re a paedophile’, and that’s okay as long as you don’t abuse a child.”

Learning to control his feelings was the most important aspect of the sessions. “I am responsible for my behaviour. If someone says they can’t control themselves, that’s just not true.” Which is not to say he didn’t struggle. “There were several times I wanted to stop,” he said. “Because you’re taking yourself apart and putting yourself back together again with the tools to cope and it was incredibly scary.”

Weber, who runs a support group for non-offending paedophiles called Schicksal und Herausforderung (fate and challenge) sports a beard and a burgundy T-shirt. He is not someone who would stand out in a crowd.

Statistics gathered by the Charité’s therapists indicate that, of 440 paedophile patients they have so far treated, the average age is 37, 71% are employed, 39% are in relationships, while 36% are the caregivers for one or more children. They are almost always male. “We have been contacted by 17 women in the last decade. Only one of these would I say had a paedophilic disorder,” said Kuhle.

Perhaps surprisingly, the project has the strong backing of Germany’s conservatives. The ruling Christian Democratic party (CDU) of Angela Merkel is highly supportive and pushing for health insurers to fund the therapy, which costs €5m-€8m a year. So far financing has come from government and charitable grants.

In a recent policy paper on the subject, the CDU argued that the best protection for children “would be for people with a paedophilic disposition (of whom it is estimated there are around 250,000 in Germany) not to become offenders in the first place”.

“But in order to lessen the number of attacks by paedophiles, our healthcare system must provide sufficient and low-threshold treatment possibilities for them … on a financially sustainable and anonymous basis,” it advised.

By its very nature, it is almost impossible to evaluate the project’s success. While a paedophile who has participated might be asked if the treatment had prevented him from offending, any answer is likely to be highly subjective and possibly unreliable. To measure its success according to the number of recorded cases of child abuse is also problematic, as those rates are known to have gone up if only because of the increasing number of abuse victims who feel prepared to come forward as the subject has become less taboo.

But experts like Kuhle say the popularity of Dunkelfeld among paedophiles is proof of how vital it is. “I meet many colleagues from other countries, particularly the UK and the US, who would like to introduce this therapy and are in the process of trying to roll it out, but are often hindered from doing so by the legal restrictions.”

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After Channel 4 screened the documentary The Paedophile Next Door, which featured the institute’s unique style of therapy, last November, Dunkelfeld’s hotline was inundated with calls from Britons with paedophilic disorders. Therapists say they were frustrated at not being able to help.

One British man was so desperate, he moved to Germany to be able to access a Dunkelfeld programme. In an email exchange with the Guardian, the man, who wished to remain anonymous, wrote: “So far, all I have ever received from the NHS is doors slammed in my face.

“Despite paedophilia being listed as a mental illness in the DSM (the standard classification of mental disorders), they don’t want to help you, they just want to see you locked up or perhaps even burnt at the stake. I am so sick and tired of UK medical ‘professionals’ looking at me as if I’ve grown horns and a barbed tail.

“I moved to Germany for therapy, I am learning German and I have a social worker helping me. (Yes, a social worker helping paedophiles!).”

Although Dunkelfeld has come in for criticism for focusing on the potential abusers rather than the abused, it has been supported by victims’ groups in Germany and elsewhere. The family of April Jones, the five-year-old Welsh girl who was murdered by Mark Bridger in 2012, have appealed for help for paedophiles who seek it.

“If someone says to the doctor: ‘I have these feelings, can I have help?’ it would be better to try to help them before they ruin someone else’s family,” Coral Jones said this year.

Anne, now in her mid-20s, was abused as a child by her policeman stepfather and later discovered the man she was in a relationship with had a paedophilic disorder. She assists relatives and friends of paedophiles by helping them to access therapy.

“If people search for help but can’t get it, then there’s something wrong with us as a society,” she said. “You just have to think of the many children who I’ve no doubt are saved because this therapy exists. It also prevents these men as well as the mothers and wives who so often protect them, from hiding from themselves anymore.”

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/...hey-offend

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That is article above,

Truly we are going into very dangerous territory now, you can expect to see more articles like this coming out in the future.
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The Push to Normalize Pedophilia Begins

Quote: (09-23-2015 10:54 AM)Snowplow Wrote:  

Plus we have a whole thread on teachers sleeping with their students. Once this gets normalized you'll have all of them plus future candidates jumping on the bandwagon.
Schools; the ball park (no pun) for feminist / SJW indoctrination no less. Seeing a pattern here?
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The Push to Normalize Pedophilia Begins

I read all the comments from people saying pedophilia will never be normalized, it's too awful, too disgusting, it's a disease, parents will never accept it, it's a mental disorder, etc.

But 40 years ago, a vast majority of people in the U.S. would have said the exact same thing about homosexuality. The incremental strategy of the homosexual agenda was far more successful than anyone could have believed.

The pedophilia movement is following the same playbook. They know where they can move the line an inch at a time without stirring up too much objection. Older women and younger men. Encouraging the acceptance of the sexualism of young woman and girls among older women as empowerment, etc. They can exploit the older men, younger women angle.

Our history books are now riddled with how accepted and normal it was for older men and younger men to have sexual relationship in ancient societies. That is another tactic to make people believe it is was normal, so they are less likely to push back against it as hard.

The incrementalism and normalization movement even exploits the natural disgust and revulsion that we have to pedophilia. Anytime a man avoids being in a situation that would otherwise be completely normal and non-sexual (such as a mentor/mentee relationship) because he fears the appearance of something inappropriate, he is subconsciously admitted the possibility of the child being a sexual being.

I know that sounds like BS, but it is a psychological manipulation strategy. Consider all how the homosexual agenda use the spectre of "hidden homosexual feelings" to shame men who publicly denounce homosexuality. They say they only hate homosexuals so much cause they are secretly gay. This causes weaker willed men to stay quiet about their negative feelings about it for fear of being called the same.

I'm not saying that the pedophilia movement will be as successful as the homosexual movement, but if you look closely, you can already see the successes it has had.
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The Push to Normalize Pedophilia Begins

Quote: (10-17-2015 09:02 AM)Constitution45 Wrote:  

“There were thin, fat, tall and short men, aged between 20 and 60. I found out there was a banker, a church warden, a doctor, a student, an unemployed bloke, an actor – people from all walks of life.”

They're everyday people. Just like you and me!

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“If people mention anything in therapy that could make them criminally culpable, they are protected. In other countries, that’s not the case.”

This was mid-80's PC subversion of criminal justice:

The criminal is a victim of society, and protecting them from negative consequence for their criminal actions is our core mission. The victim's safety and rehabilitation from trauma is not our concern: that can be handed over public health.

Or:

Won't someone think of the criminals?

This is why there were certain streets in my last town where you didn't drive whilst white. Whilst you'd think the problem getting bad enough that young kids being beaten and robbed, and rocks being thrown through the windows of moving cars, showering an infant with glass, would be enough to make the cops have to do something, they're under the thumb of mushroom-haired women who know better.

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For Weber, who is keen to stress he has never offended although he admits to having been dangerously close to doing so, the confidentiality clause was key.

Pedophiles are reliable narrators, so you can trust them at their word. This is what educated people actually believe.

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Three times he planned to carry out what he calls “concrete assaults” on young children. Three times he was prevented from doing so by a mix of circumstance and his own fear.

Social shaming and the threat of violent repercussions work. Who knew?

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He began the weekly three-hour therapy sessions, overseen by two therapists, with between six to 10 participants. The sessions took place at the end of a normal working day and were based on cognitive behavioural therapy methods.

Meanwhile, Obama is suggesting banning all LGTB etc conversion therapy in the United States, because sexuality is innate and can't be changed. Pick one, Progressives.

So whilst this is painted as 'getting concerned help', it's simply setting up an eventual 'pedophilia isn't a mental illness' / 'they were born this way' transition.

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Although Dunkelfeld has come in for criticism for focusing on the potential abusers rather than the abused, it has been supported by victims’ groups in Germany and elsewhere.

See earlier.

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“If people search for help but can’t get it, then there’s something wrong with us as a society,” she said. “You just have to think of the many children who I’ve no doubt are saved because this therapy exists. It also prevents these men as well as the mothers and wives who so often protect them, from hiding from themselves anymore.”

Earlier it states it's impossible to measure the success rate of this therapy. That doesn't matter to this woman. She - as always, feels it must be helping, so in her reality, it's a positive thing.
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The Push to Normalize Pedophilia Begins

Check out this thread:
https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments...ey_offend/

and this one, though with less replies: https://www.reddit.com/r/psychology/comm...ey_offend/

The replies are shocking. I can't comprehend how people just accept this shit...
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