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Probably about the convention, it's coming up, and it's nothing to be concerned about
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Seems like Chuck Johnson was right. Unless this is serious disinformation, it seems to be Newt. However any good TV man knows not to blow your load before the big finale, which is at the convention. Using that logic I'd say that Newt is definitely not the VP? Or is he feeling out the response to Newt?

http://www.mediamatters.org/video/2016/0...ump/211436

Transcript:

GRETA VAN SUSTERN (HOST): Let me ask about another topic. It's no secret that your name is on the vice president short list for Donald Trump.

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NEWT GINGRICH: We had a great trip to Cincinnati. We’ve always had a good friendship. I think he is a remarkable figure. He has great strengths. He has weaknesses. but on balance. He’s historic. He beat out all those other guys to be the nominee. And I think that we are at a crossroads in American history, frankly, captured in part by what happened over the last few days. We are either going to clean up Washington or Washington is going to corrupt the whole country.

SUSTERN: Is that a yes you would say yes if he asked you?

GINGRICH: I think it’d be very very hard for Callista and me not to find a way not to serve the country.

SUSTERN: So that’s a yes? That’s a yes.

GINGRICH: If I say yes then that becomes “Gingrich admits on Greta's show.” So what the heck, why not? Alright. I'm going to all out. If Trump offers the position and is serious about it, which I think he would be after our conversations, Callista and I would feel compelled to serve the country.

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Please don't let it be Newt...
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Eh, I'd rather it was Sessions or Flynn but Newt isn't the end of the world if it happens. He is a smart guy overall, but he is establishment. And he is fat. What's his health like? I'd be worried he would drop dead of a heart attack
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I still think it will be Sessions.
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Between Gingrich publicly disapproving of Trump's comments on the Trump University judge and his little spiel about race relations today, I sure as hell hope he isn't chosen as VP.

I am still rooting for either Sessions or Flynn at this point.
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I love Newt as a politician and personality; if all of our elected officials had PhDs in history then I highly doubt our country would be in this big of a mess.

I can see how his establishment past may be a concern to those who worry about Trump getting the JFK treatment, but Newt cut ties with the elites a long time ago. Check out the platform he ran on in 2012; he sounds eerily similar to Trump, and I wouldn't be surprised if Newt inspired him.






Further, the energy in the room when Newt was introducing Trump in Ohio was unbelievable. They complement each other very well, and the crowd loved him, shouting "Newt, Newt, Newt, Newt" over and over again. Also, he knows how to make liberals squeal like none other, a huge plus for when the debates roll around.

My personal VP pick would be Rand Paul, but Newt is a close second.

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Quote: (07-08-2016 07:55 PM)RaccoonFace Wrote:  

Please don't let it be Newt...
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Is Newt that big of a cuckservative? Trump would be on the short list for an assassination attempt if Newt is the VP.

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Mediamatters is a Clinton attack site. Whatever they say should be disregarded.

Newt only said he'd accept but that doesn't mean he'll be the VP. I think it would be a serious mistake for reasons outlined earlier, though at least he wouldn't be Christie. He did energize the crowd in Ohio though, which could be worrisome because Trump will have his high-energy bias and could potentially overlook the grander picture. Trump is obviously A/B/C/D testing his picks. He had Corker with him in North Carolina last week, before he dropped out of consideration.

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I hope it's Sessions. I already know the media strategy if it is. They will point to his Alabama accent to paint him as a "rrraaayyysssiiisss!!!"

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According to Bob Costa of WaPo, Trump is very seriously considering Michael Flynn, and Sessions seems to be in favor of this:

A curveball in Trump’s Veep search: He’s seriously considering a retired general

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After weeks of focusing on a group of current and former elected officials in his search for a running mate, Donald Trump is increasingly intrigued by the idea of tapping retired Lt. Gen. Michael T. Flynn in order to project strength and know-how on national security, according to four people familiar with the vetting process.

Flynn, 57, a registered Democrat but fierce critic of President Obama, previously ran the Defense Intelligence Agency.

The persons, who spoke with The Washington Post on Saturday, requested anonymity to discuss their private conversations in recent days with Trump’s confidants and campaign aides.

The turn toward a military figure is being driven by Trump himself rather than by his advisers, the people said, and comes as the real estate mogul is telling his friends that national unrest may demand a “tough and steady” presence alongside him on the ticket.

In Flynn, they added, Trump believes he would have a partner whom he trusts, based on their close working relationship over the course of the campaign on policy. And he likes the image of a businessman and a general coming to Washington as outsiders.

The shift in how Trump is evaluating his short list is driven by his growing sense that he does not necessarily want or need a running mate who will satisfy Republican insiders, in spite of long saying that he would likely go in that direction. Instead, and after some testy exchanges with GOP lawmakers during his visit to Capitol Hill on Thursday, Trump is more open than ever to going with a non-politician.

As multiple people explained, Trump is eager to rally the party around him but sees the convention and other parts of the campaign as integral to that goal, with the vice-presidential nod potentially more important in terms of what it broadly symbolizes to voters.

“Trump-Flynn. I’ve heard him say that, kind of test out the sound of it,” one person said of how Trump is mulling the possibility. “I think it’s a brand he finds appealing.”

A Trump campaign spokeswoman declined to comment. A spokesperson for Flynn was unavailable.

Flynn’s formal vetting by the Trump campaign was first reported by the New York Post. In an interview with the newspaper, Flynn did not deny that he was under consideration.

“All I would say is that I have been honored to serve my country for the past three decades and look forward to serving in other ways now that I am retired from the U.S. Army,” Flynn said. “I’ve been a soldier too long to refuse to entertain any request from a potential commander in chief.”

Still, Trump remains undecided on his vice-presidential pick, the people said. While warming toward Flynn, Indiana Gov. Mike Pence and former House speaker Newt Gingrich, among several others, are being vetted and many of his associates are urging him to go with a seasoned governor or senator who could help to unite the party.

Trump is said to be understanding and open to that argument but he is slightly bored by the prospect of going with a traditional Republican. As a longtime celebrity, he has countered that advice with points about the need for surprise and star power. But he is torn about whether his gut instincts should outweigh political calculation, the people said.

“I like the generals. I like the concept of the generals. We’re thinking about — actually there are two of them that are under consideration,” Trump said Wednesday on Fox News. He then acknowledged that for months he has been “really looking to go more the political route.”

One person encouraging Trump to perhaps choose a general is Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-Ala.), who has become a force inside of the campaign. He shares Trump’s view that while unorthodox, a general could excite voters from both parties who want to see wholesale change in domestic politics and an aggressive approach to combating terrorism.

Flynn, a Rhode Island native whose book “Field of Fight: How We Can Win the Global War Against Radical Islam and Its Allies,” comes out July 12, has shown a willingness to be an attack dog, a role often played by vice-presidential candidates.

"If it were me, I would have been out the door and probably in jail," Flynn told CNN in February when asked about presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton’s email practices while secretary of state. He called on her to drop out of the race.

Flynn did not leave the Obama administration on warm terms. In 2014, he was effectively forced out of the Defense Intelligence Agency as part of a leadership shake-up after clashing with officials over his management style and vision for the agency.

This would be a very interesting choice and it could work. If there are more terrorist attacks between now and the election -- which is quite possible -- a Trump/Flynn ticket would start looking appealing to some voters. And it does have a good sound to it, as Trump recognizes with his superb ear for the language.

Given that Sessions seems to be uninterested in the position and is actually backing Flynn, I wouldn't mind this at all. It's certainly much better than picking Newt.

He comes off well in interviews, as an intelligent straight shooter. And he seems to like Trump and get along with him but also be willing to challenge him, all good things.

Here is a sample interview (2 segments):









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Well I had to order Flynn's book after seeing those. He appears to be a solid choice after Sessions.
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TLOZ: Thanks for posting the WaPo article. I had not seen that, but I've had my eye on Flynn for quite some time. Of course, a retired general is in principle not a bad idea, but this particular general might be encumbered with some unconventional baggage.

His last job in uniform was head of DIA -- a post he was effectively fired from (link) -- and then he seems to have made some friends at RT, the Kremlin's news network (or propaganda arm, depending on how you look at it). Last December as a private citizen, he sat at Putin's table at the 10th anniversary party for RT in Moscow. (link)

If he picks Flynn I predict the choice will be wildly popular with the Forum Membership [Image: smile.gif]
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Quote: (07-09-2016 01:30 PM)Tokyo Joe Wrote:  

TLOZ: Thanks for posting the WaPo article. I had not seen that, but I've had my eye on Flynn for quite some time. Of course, a retired general is in principle not a bad idea, but this particular general might be encumbered with some unconventional baggage.

His last job in uniform was head of DIA -- a post he was effectively fired from (link) -- and then he seems to have made some friends at RT, the Kremlin's news network (or propaganda arm, depending on how you look at it). Last December as a private citizen, he sat at Putin's table at the 10th anniversary party for RT in Moscow. (link)

If he picks Flynn I predict the choice will be wildly popular with the Forum Membership [Image: smile.gif]

Yep, I've been looking at this as well. I didn't really know much about the guy, and he does seem to have quite a bit of baggage. His firing from the DIA, at the very least, will provide some material. He will claim it was politically motivated, but it's not clear if that was really the case, or if he was just a poor manager.

Perhaps a safe, reassuring choice like Mike Pence (of the ones being considered) would be best.

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Michael Flynn is a registered Democrat.

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But there is a twist to the retired three-star Army general’s résumé: He’s a Democrat. That could showcase bipartisan appeal — or it could further add to Trump’s ongoing challenges in unifying a fractured Republican Party.

“If someone were to look it up right now, I’m a registered Democrat, and I’m OK with that,” Flynn told Foreign Policy last year, adding he’s “about as centrist as possible.”

This got me curious whether Trump is floating Flynn's name before appointing him Secretary of Defense. Obama's first* Secretary of Defense, Bob Gates, was a carry over from the Bush administration. While a bipartisan ticket is unheard of this century, who better to stop the SJWism in the military than a Democrat Secretary of Defense? With Sessions supporting Flynn for VP behind the scenes, I think Trump is playing the long game for the cabinet.

Look at it this way: who would be a better, viable Secretary of Defense? I see Sessions for VP and Flynn for Secretary of Defense as a better assignment than Flynn for VP and an unknown for Secretary of Defense.

* Obama is on his fourth Secretary of Defense in an 8-year administration. Sound right to you? Of course not.

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The only problem is that removing Sessions from the Senate would reduce the number of Republican senators(if his state doesn't elect a Republican in his place). After refusing to even consider Merrick Garland, a lot of the Republicans will probably not get reelected.
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The problem with these nonpolitician types is they don't have a lot of practice answering hot button issues. The press can easily trip them up.

Take abortion for example. Has the general thought much about or talked much about this issues and all of its complications? Does he know what he can and cannot say , taking into account both his base and the other side (what is allowable to say and what is no-go)?

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Flynn:

- His firing from the DIA could be problematic but this is a change election, and ordinarily the pendulum swings against Obama, thus allowing Flynn to ride it. On the other hand, his job approval is about 52% right now, which is pretty good for a president at this stage.

- The thing with Russia will cause the neocons to go absolutely apeshit. Expect that fear to go into the media and infect the people, which is what you don't want.

On the other hand, does anyone really care about Putin and Russia, really? People are looking for jobs and beating the shit out of ISIS. Flynn's mannerisms also don't seem that scary. He'd also get some unquestioned foreign policy cred.

At any rate, Pence is a decent choice as well.

Sessions may be ideal, but he really doesn't seem to want it. He might also be more valuable in the senate should Trump win. He's already well respected, and his influence would be that much larger.

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Quote: (07-09-2016 01:54 PM)eradicator Wrote:  

The only problem is that removing Sessions from the Senate would reduce the number of Republican senators(if his state doesn't elect a Republican in his place). After refusing to even consider Merrick Garland, a lot of the Republicans will probably not get reelected.

Nobody cares about that. In fact, it probably helps most Republicans, since anyone that wants a Republican candidate usually wants a Republican judge.

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Nobody even knows who Merrick Garland is. If anybody did know him, the recency effect wiped that long ago.

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It won't be General Flynn, who is a Democrat. It will be Senator Sessions, or another long term Republican.

Soon-to-be-President Trump does not need a VP to win, he needs a VP to get legislation passed, to leave a legacy, and to fulfill the campaign promises if something unexpected happens and the VP needs to lead the country.

Any choice other than a Republican will destroy President Trump's ability to push through legislation. He is already mending the Republican Party in wake of his hostile takeover, and if he throws the party under the bus now, he will be remembered in the same vane of ineffectiveness as President Carter.

Ann Coulter is a provocateur, and quite good at it. She is not a politician or leader that knows how to guide an organization to success.
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I'm not keen on the idea of a purely military person...too reminiscent of Admiral Stockdale.

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YossariansRight is the first to bet on Mike Pence. Congrats.
Quote: (06-30-2016 09:08 PM)YossariansRight Wrote:  

I'm going to throw IN Governor Mike Pence's name into the VP mix. Very solid, has experience in both the House and as a governor, and is young enough to run for POTUS in 8 years.

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But there is also this:

Quote: (03-11-2016 01:28 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

The VP will be someone who hasn't been mention in this thread. Trump is smarter than you.

Up until there were reports about Trump considering Pence, nobody thought of him.
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