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Woman in the doctor's office - anything I could have done differently?
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Woman in the doctor's office - anything I could have done differently?

I was at the doctors office the other day and the waiting room was pretty crowded. There was a pretty blonde girl in her 20s sitting across from me who would make funny faces at me and roll her eyes and smile at the behavior of some of the other patients in the waiting room, who couldn't be bothered to put their fucking smartphones down, even when they were called for their appointment. I noticed, amazingly, that this girl was just sitting quietly resting with no phone in her hand all!

I'm sitting across from her and we chat quietly for a little bit about trivia and how we're tired this early in the morning and really wish we had had coffee of something. I gently tease her about the fact that it looks like the shoes she's wearing are bedroom slippers and she just rolled out of bed with them on to come here, and she laughs and agrees. I ask her why she's not checking her text messages and she says that she left her phone in her car because she doesn't really like using it that much. I'm stunned.

My name is called and my appointment is brief, but there's another engagement I have to leave for pretty much immediately after and I'm already running late. I decide I'm going to do something but there are so many people I don't know how to give her my info discreetly, so I jot my cell number down on a slip of paper. As I'm walking out she's going into her appointment and I hand her the slip of paper with my number on it wrapped in a dollar bill and I wink and say "oh hey, let me pay you back for the coffee." She smiles and goes "Oh, hey, excellent thanks a lot!"

Haven't heard anything yet. I feel like I had a solid prospect here but I fucked up the close, but because of the weird environment it happened I was on the spot and didn't really know what to do. Young women are so glued to their phones in waiting rooms usually that the thought there might be one sitting there the other day not using one and willing to talk never really occurred to me. And of course there's the possibility that she just wasn't really interested.

I wish I could have somehow got her number instead as it's probably asking a lot for her to text a strange guy. Anything I could have done differently for future reference? If I had had nothing going on afterwards I probably should have just asked her right in the waiting room if she wanted to go and get coffee right after we both had our appointments, but I couldn't. Damn it.

I've been approaching like mad lately in both real life and online, and going on dates and getting interest, but closing just seems to be my real stumbling block. It sucks to feel like I'm just getting 90% of the way there and then fucking up.
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Woman in the doctor's office - anything I could have done differently?

Yes.

Sometimes the time constraints are such that you have to risk it and be direct:

"Listen, I know it's strange, but I feel that I have to invite you for coffee sometime. The reason is that a girl trying to limit phone addiction is so rare that I have to find out more about you. If you don't remember your phone number, then I can just walk you to your car. It's safer that way anyway - so many guys nowadays are hitting on girls and we wouldn't want that, would we?"

Occasionally you don't have time to build attraction properly and then it's more a quick shot in the dark before the hook-point (before she shows some signs of obvious interest). Expect more blowouts that way, but it will still work often enough unless you look like Quasimodo.

First rule: Always be closing.

Slipping her your number on the sly is female stuff. That does not work with men.

If you have problems with closing and escalation, then go through the literature of the greats - Roosh, Krauser, Tom Torero, even basic Mystery Method. The rest will come with practice.
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Woman in the doctor's office - anything I could have done differently?

Yes you need to use the 30 second opener as described above for these types of situations.

"Hey I just saw you <doing something> I'm just about to meet my friends but would kick myself if I didn't say hi to you. I know nothing about you I don't know you who you are, I almost feel weird liking you, but would like to get to know you better".
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Woman in the doctor's office - anything I could have done differently?

Quote: (09-26-2015 01:13 PM)XPQ21 Wrote:  

I was at the doctors office the other day and the waiting room was pretty crowded. There was a pretty blonde girl in her 20s sitting across from me who would make funny faces at me and roll her eyes and smile at the behavior of some of the other patients in the waiting room, who couldn't be bothered to put their fucking smartphones down, even when they were called for their appointment. I noticed, amazingly, that this girl was just sitting quietly resting with no phone in her hand all!

I'm sitting across from her and we chat quietly for a little bit about trivia and how we're tired this early in the morning and really wish we had had coffee of something. I gently tease her about the fact that it looks like the shoes she's wearing are bedroom slippers and she just rolled out of bed with them on to come here, and she laughs and agrees. I ask her why she's not checking her text messages and she says that she left her phone in her car because she doesn't really like using it that much. I'm stunned.

My name is called and my appointment is brief, but there's another engagement I have to leave for pretty much immediately after and I'm already running late. I decide I'm going to do something but there are so many people I don't know how to give her my info discreetly, so I jot my cell number down on a slip of paper. As I'm walking out she's going into her appointment and I hand her the slip of paper with my number on it wrapped in a dollar bill and I wink and say "oh hey, let me pay you back for the coffee." She smiles and goes "Oh, hey, excellent thanks a lot!"

Haven't heard anything yet. I feel like I had a solid prospect here but I fucked up the close, but because of the weird environment it happened I was on the spot and didn't really know what to do. Young women are so glued to their phones in waiting rooms usually that the thought there might be one sitting there the other day not using one and willing to talk never really occurred to me. And of course there's the possibility that she just wasn't really interested.

I wish I could have somehow got her number instead as it's probably asking a lot for her to text a strange guy. Anything I could have done differently for future reference? If I had had nothing going on afterwards I probably should have just asked her right in the waiting room if she wanted to go and get coffee right after we both had our appointments, but I couldn't. Damn it.

I've been approaching like mad lately in both real life and online, and going on dates and getting interest, but closing just seems to be my real stumbling block. It sucks to feel like I'm just getting 90% of the way there and then fucking up.

You should've got her number before you went into your appointment. When you were called you should've said, "be right there" to the staff, then turned to her, pulled your phone out, and had her punch her phone number in.

What words need to be said when you hand a girl your phone with a dial pad? None. Leave the mystery and intrigue. Lock the absolutely necessary logistics (getting the phone number) and go into your appointment. She could've been thinking her whole appointment about if she was going to have a text from you when she got back to her car.

Failing this, you should've stopped her and written down her number. WORST case if everyone is standing around, you motion her to come close, and you whisper in her ear for her number, then she whispers in yours. Builds closeness, and is seen as super bold not letting her get into her appointment before you close.

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Woman in the doctor's office - anything I could have done differently?

Bro, you've started a few dozen threads in the last 6 months. Maybe put all of these questions in one thread?

Most of your interactions with women will go nowhere, these are good lessons. Chalk it up to the game.

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