[Foolsgo1d]

I bet any woman against men having sex bots/toys have a large collection of phallic objects in their home. "Toys for moi but not you."

[Captainstabbin]

(09-15-2015 08:09 AM)Parlay44 Wrote:  

(09-15-2015 07:45 AM)J. Spice Wrote:  

(09-15-2015 07:07 AM)Parlay44 Wrote:  

Yeah yeah. It was the same bullshit about porn in the 80's. It takes attention away from women and lowers their market value. Which makes them have to work harder to keep a man. Boo hoo.

I get the concept, but have women really been working harder? If anything, they've been getting more and more lazy and bitter.

They've unionized under the flag of feminism and collectively inflated the price of pussy to a ridiculous level. Women may not be outwardly feminists but they indirectly internalized their (cough cough) ideals.

Like any other union.

Being protected by the union means they aren't really doing a great job, make a lot of mistakes, have a bad attitude but you tolerate it because you don't have an alternative. Having Game gives you alternatives, so does having a sexbot.

[Ozy]

She'll change her tune when they come out with a Brad Pitt from Fight Club model with an adjustable-size penis attachment.

I would understand her argument if they were true thinking machines with sentience, but if we ever create that it's a Matrix/Terminator situation and we've got bigger problems than regulating sex toys.

All new technology goes through a process where it is weird/creepy/nerdy/scorned by women to eventual acceptance to being basically mandatory.

Look at video games. As soon as you could play them on an iphone suddenly all women became gamers. Look at iphones themselves. There were people talking smack about them when they first came out.

You can say sexbots will destroy beta bux, but automation will do that anyway. Once we have self driving cars/trucks, burger flipping bots, data entry AIs, etc. millions of jobs will disappear and betas won't have the bux even if they wanted to settle down and get married.

[britchard]

This is the first thing I thought of when I saw this story on the BBC this morning. Obviously there will be compulsory shaming of anyone who gets one, being called a creep.

[eatthishomie]

Will there even be any more beta bucks after sexbots become a thing? Women are shaking in their boots.

On the other hand, should we be worried about a possible reverse scenario, a Chad Thundercock sex bot for women? It's worth thinking about...

[void]

(09-15-2015 12:54 PM)eatthishomie Wrote:  

Will there even be any more beta bucks after sexbots become a thing? Women are shaking in their boots.

On the other hand, should we be worried about a possible reverse scenario, a Chad Thundercock sex bot for women? It's worth thinking about...

There a vibrators and sybians? you can buy online or in a sex shop. Chad Thundercock is available for 20€ and a battery charge.

If you can't compete with a fucking lifeless doll made of silicon, you are rightfully exiting the gene pool. Woman or man.

What no machine can deliver at the current state of technology is intimacy and babies, if you can't or don't want to provide this, well...

[The Beast1]

Am I the only one who thinks there won't be any collapse, economic or otherwise? Things are just going to be grudgingly slow, feminism will become more miserable, and societies will just keep printing cash to keep up the party.

2024 hits and the first sexbot comes out. The company that makes them lets you "customize" her and most men end up picking thin petites or busty women. It's obvious what men's preferences are by the shear sales numbers.

A few years go by and male attention is gone. No more thirst online, no more cat calling, nothing.

Feminism then goes through a 5th wave. This time, it's to make women more appealing to men. They give up their places in the work force and eventually return to the kitchen. Nature ends up dictating that the most herby of the bunch fall in love with their robots, removing their genes from the gene pool while those that want families start having kids, lots of them.

Meh lets throw in a world race war and some sexbots to boot. Makes things more interesting.

[Captainstabbin]

(09-15-2015 12:54 PM)eatthishomie Wrote:  

Will there even be any more beta bucks after sexbots become a thing? Women are shaking in their boots.

On the other hand, should we be worried about a possible reverse scenario, a Chad Thundercock sex bot for women? It's worth thinking about...

A Chad bot can't pay the bills so he's no different than a Sybian.

[Surreyman]

(09-15-2015 10:16 AM)DannyAlberta Wrote:  

(09-15-2015 07:13 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

(09-15-2015 05:48 AM)Nonpareil Wrote:  

I think it's pathetic personally - but sexbots, once they become mainstream (and they will) will remove a huge swath of men from the game.

I don't see how sex bots will remove any men from the game. Men who buy sexbots weren't in the game to begin with.

It will remove the omegas, who were not in the game at all, so I agree with that part. But it will also remove some (and maybe a lot) of the frustrated betas from the game as well, the same betas who more and more carousel riders are increasingly hoping to land in a provider and daddy for illegitimate children role when they start to hit the wall. Basically, it will remove part of their provider safety net that they are counting on and that is an existential threat to the modern Strong Independent Woman™.

Sounds to me like these sexbots are doing some good natural-selection work.

There's a lot of low-t men out there who probably shouldn't reproduce, but do so due to social pressures/sexual frustration. Do we really want them in the gene pool?

[porscheguy]

(09-15-2015 07:13 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

(09-15-2015 05:48 AM)Nonpareil Wrote:  

I think it's pathetic personally - but sexbots, once they become mainstream (and they will) will remove a huge swath of men from the game.

I don't see how sex bots will remove any men from the game. Men who buy sexbots weren't in the game to begin with.

Everyone is in the game. Even the socially awkward omega who can only stare creepily at women from a distance is in the game. Even if he never gets laid, his actions serve to up the price of the female commodity. Take him out of the equation and no one will notice. But there's millions of guys like him out there. Take them all out of the equation, and it will be noticed. Do the same with the lesser betas who manage to bang a fatty from time to time. Give them a perfect 10 sex bot and they'll view those fatties with disgust and revulsion. The omegas and lesser betas will swallow the bait, hook, line, and sinker. They'll never look at another woman again. Only then will they be 100% out of the game.

As it is now, women who are 5s get enough male attention (i.e. male attention is game, no matter how shitty it is) to think they've got a chance with super alphas. Much of that mindset comes from the trivial actions of betas and omegas they encounter every day. Eliminate those interactions, or reduce them to a fraction of what they once were, and women will be in a panic.

[rw95]

Looks like this is gonna go down one of two ways:

1) Islam takes over the west and we see a complete loss of western culture (bad and good) but a firm return to patriarchy, as well as the establishment of polygamy, making these sexbots unnecessary.

2) Islam somehow does not take over and the sexbots become commonplace. Lesser men will drop out of the game entirely, leaving women free to continue chasing the alphas they always wanted, just with no more beta male thirst.

Of course, option 2 depends largely on the collapse of western society either not happening or being relatively small in scope (non Mad Max-esque).

Should be interesting either way!

[Ocelot]

(09-15-2015 03:46 PM)Surreyman Wrote:  

Sounds to me like these sexbots are doing some good natural-selection work.

There's a lot of low-t men out there who probably shouldn't reproduce, but do so due to social pressures/sexual frustration. Do we really want them in the gene pool?

Are you kidding? You're talking about the exact men who built our civilisation. They might not be the leaders, nor the directors of large amounts of capital, but the average beta male is the true backbone of the world; and for every high T man at the top whose risk-taking lead to the a new continent being colonised, or walking on the moon, there's a hundred more high T men at the bottom who are violent criminals.

Dysgenics is something mankind should take seriously as our capital accumulation and advancing technology has obviated the need for intelligence when it comes to survival and reproduction, and allowed r-selection to become the dominant mating strategy. The average Jewish IQ compared to every other demographic should serve as a good example of how quickly social selection pressures can have long-term effects on the make-up of our species.

On the topic of sex-bots though, it's doubtful whether they'd be a "good" thing. They would ostensibly reduce women's power in the sexual marketplace, but how much is hard to tell. If it was a large effect, the social stigma attached to their use would quickly become enormous. Also let's be realistic: list every trend you don't like in Western Civilisation. How is the addition of sex-bots going to improve any of these situations? Seems more like another can of kerosene for the fire of social atomisation to me...

[captndonk]

I checked youtube in order to get mor information about these robots and they look like display dummies. When the robot talks it sounds like you hear someone trough speaker phone.
It probably makes noises like a vacuum cleaner and smells very different to a woman.

It might be a good masturbation tool but no way these robots can replace real woman.

[MikeS]

(09-15-2015 05:59 PM)captndonk Wrote:  

I checked youtube in order to get mor information about these robots and they look like display dummies. When the robot talks it sounds like you hear someone trough speaker phone.
It probably makes noises like a vacuum cleaner and smells very different to a woman.

It might be a good masturbation tool but no way these robots can replace real woman.

I imagine proper sexbots are still a couple of decades - at least - away. In order to make anything that can pass for more than a sophisticated doll they need to move past at least two major hurdles - something close to natural motion (I was surprised when I say a video recently of a robot walking, still far from moving like a human but it was a hell of a lot closer than I would have expected, and it was on rough terrain) and software that can adequately simulate some types of human behaviour and interpret enough from its surroundings to engage appropriate responses.

Lifelike looks and sound are obviously going to be the very least of the problems, and are almost at workable level now I think (I haven't seen one of those RealDolls in anything but pictures, but for a doll or a robot I think they already look pretty impressive - and would obviously be much more so if they were actually paired with natural motion).
Speech like through a speaker phone? Well, that's obviously just a simple matter of putting decent speakers in the robot, and couple them with natural speech engines which can sound very good these days (Siri and Google Now are well known examples, but I think I've heard a few voices in other text-to-speech software that sounded even more natural).

[PolymathGuru]

A ban on sexbots? Fine. We'll ban women from sex until marriage(via chastity belts) and get rid of divorce laws. Then they will take note of being submissive women once they realize they can't reproduce as long as men.

[duedue]

(09-15-2015 01:05 PM)The Beast1 Wrote:  

Am I the only one who thinks there won't be any collapse, economic or otherwise? Things are just going to be grudgingly slow, feminism will become more miserable, and societies will just keep printing cash to keep up the party.

2024 hits and the first sexbot comes out. The company that makes them lets you "customize" her and most men end up picking thin petites or busty women. It's obvious what men's preferences are by the shear sales numbers.

A few years go by and male attention is gone. No more thirst online, no more cat calling, nothing.

Feminism then goes through a 5th wave. This time, it's to make women more appealing to men. They give up their places in the work force and eventually return to the kitchen. Nature ends up dictating that the most herby of the bunch fall in love with their robots, removing their genes from the gene pool while those that want families start having kids, lots of them.

Meh lets throw in a world race war and some sexbots to boot. Makes things more interesting.

This is wishful thinking.

[T and A Man]

It says a lot that feminists think women are going to lose here.

The robot us a choice for men, and for women to be a better choice than the robot, they need to have better personalities than something that has no personality.

They don't have confidence they can do that.

That speaks volumes about their self awareness. I think they know that women in the western world now behave horrible for the most part, that their personalities are an overall negative and something men tolerate for other things.

I cant imagine more feminine women, such as Asia or eastern Europe with good personalities actually being threatened by this.

[Sombro]

Men's traditional sex toy: fully formed, inflatable doll.
Women's traditional sex toy: A man's physical presence, reduced down to a mere phallus.

Who is objectifying whom?

[duedue]

Feminists claim that women are able do whatever men can do and what gets in the way of this happening is men relegating women to sex objects/child bearers/ housekeepers etc and therefore preventing them from reaching their true potential. Now what can help women be exonerated from these "sexist" roles? What about sex bots, artificial wombs, etc?

But feminists know better than anyone else how dependent on men women are and you can see this e.g. from the fact that feminists are always talking about men.

[CynicalContrarian]

(09-15-2015 09:02 PM)Sombro Wrote:  

Men's traditional sex toy: fully formed, inflatable doll.
Women's traditional sex toy: A man's physical presence, reduced down to a mere phallus.

Who is objectifying whom?

It's also amusing to know that lesbians use phallic sex toys.
Isn't there a bit of hypocrisy in that somewhere?

[Bacchus]

A ban on sexbots will be about as effective at stopping men from obtaining a sexbot as prohibition was at stopping men from obtaining alcohol. The demand is there. This is a product that will arrive in the market. But first someone in Silicon Valley has to develop it...

[RougeNoir]

[Virtus]

[Yatagan]

(09-15-2015 08:29 AM)General Stalin Wrote:  

It's like the scene from T2 Judgement Day when Sarah Connor is watching the Terminator play with John and there's a voice over about how he is basically the perfect father. "He'll always be there, never be too busy, never get drunk and hit him" - sex bot would be the female equivalent. A 10/10 that will always cook amazing meals for you, keep a tidy home, fuck you like a pornstar, and you don't have to worry about her going out and fucking other dudes, being glued to her phone, getting drunk haing girls night out or trash talking to you behind your back because you aren't perfect.

The flipside of course being that a sex robot can't replace a true "relationship." A dynamic and organic bond between two people with differing likes and dislikes, interests, habits, quirks, upbringings, family, etc. You can't make a robot "happy" or sentimental, they don't have families, they don't have feelings. A sexbot can't replace women - all it can do is consolidate having a prostitute and a maid all in one. Something you pay for that completes tasks for you that you desire to make your life a little better/easier.

10s? Pfft, I'd say one of the biggest selling points for sex bots(and VR sex) would be the ability to bang chicks that look better than humanly possible. Guys will be banging 12s and 14s, not 10s.

[Days of Broken Arrows]

(09-16-2015 12:13 AM)Seboist Wrote:  

(09-15-2015 08:29 AM)General Stalin Wrote:  

It's like the scene from T2 Judgement Day when Sarah Connor is watching the Terminator play with John and there's a voice over about how he is basically the perfect father. "He'll always be there, never be too busy, never get drunk and hit him" - sex bot would be the female equivalent. A 10/10 that will always cook amazing meals for you, keep a tidy home, fuck you like a pornstar, and you don't have to worry about her going out and fucking other dudes, being glued to her phone, getting drunk haing girls night out or trash talking to you behind your back because you aren't perfect.

The flipside of course being that a sex robot can't replace a true "relationship." A dynamic and organic bond between two people with differing likes and dislikes, interests, habits, quirks, upbringings, family, etc. You can't make a robot "happy" or sentimental, they don't have families, they don't have feelings. A sexbot can't replace women - all it can do is consolidate having a prostitute and a maid all in one. Something you pay for that completes tasks for you that you desire to make your life a little better/easier.

10s? Pfft, I'd say one of the biggest selling points for sex bots(and VR sex) would be the ability to bang chicks that look better than humanly possible. Guys will be banging 12s and 14s, not 10s.

I was gonna comment on the political aspect of this and how it seems like women are genetically engineered to call for bans on things.

But I like where you're going better. Imagine being able to order up a sexbot so it really was a "12" or a "14:"

"Hi, I'm calling to order my sexbot. Please give me the legs of Karlie Kloss, the boobs of Kate Upton, the face of Gemma Ward, and the voice of Nico from the Velvet Underground. Yes, I said Nico. She was a singer in the '60s. Very European. Look her up.

"One more thing. I'd like the higher-priced model that can cook, so please include the optional "Rachel Ray feature." Thanks!"