Quote: (10-11-2017 07:30 PM)Aurini Wrote:
Quote: (10-11-2017 03:41 PM)Laska Wrote:
The writer/director Rian Johnson hasn't made SJW films from what I can tell looking at the plots. Still, the SJW Star Wars CEO Kathleen Turner was involved in making the story, so it may still be that way. Johnson always makes crazy, overly elaborate plots that are kind of fun, but given that his arms are somewhat tied, this will probably be a train wreck for many reasons.
Hmmm, that's the exact impression I got from some of the visual choices on the trailer. Crazy and over elaborate - confusing and directionless. Contrasted to the inside of the Death Star in Ep 6, which was chaotic but organized, the weird place that the Millenium Falcon was flying through was simply confusing.
I'm guessing that this movie will receive a better reception from the last, but about six months later people will start noticing the massive plot holes, and how nothing made any sense.
On a sort-of tangential note, around the director thing: Colin Trevorrow, who was slated to helm the third film, has pulled out, citing good old "creative differences" between himself and Disney. I didn't know much about the guy before Googling him, but even after a short look through his bio I think I can make an educated guess as to why.
In short, my guess is that he didn't like Darth Turner telling him what movie to make. The Wiki article indicates outside writers were brought in fairly early on to massage the script he was planning to put in. My guess is that he'd had about one or two rounds with these corporate cockroaches before saying "Fuck this, I got better treatment and control of the source material with the last big franchise I was trusted with, I don't need this crap."
See, on Googling I was surprised to realise he was the director of
Jurassic World -- and even more surprised to discover he was the writer as well. Throughout most of his film career Trevorrow seems to have been some combination of director/writer/producer (if not all three at the same time) on his productions.
Someone who's both writer/director usually has a pretty clear and (more importantly) individual vision for where a movie should go. (This isn't a guarantee for getting something
good -- JJ Abrams co-wrote and co-directed The Farce Awakens, and freely admitted he basically retreaded ANH -- but it does seem to be a necessary component for a kickass original film; the top 20 ROI films of all time have all had some combination of writer/X in their making.)
This individual vision is even stronger in the case of a guy who covers all three seats of writer/director/producer, since a producer has to basically oversee the entire production of the film, from editing to casting through to distribution.
I suspect Trevorrow therefore doesn't play well with mass accounting exercises like Disney, who would have been constantly interfering with his production, running every line of his script through marketing and legal to see whether it was likely to piss off any demographic they deemed necessary for the film's success.
I finally got round to seeing
Jurassic World recently and while it wasn't exactly earth-shattering stuff, it hit what I thought was a nice balance between homages to the original and some new-ish innovations on the original story. I particularly liked that Trevorrow seemed to be of the same cinematography school as Irwin Kershner on ESB: he likes filling up his close shots with people's features, rightly thinking there's not a lot that's more interesting than the map of the human face.
I'm therefore actually regretting what could have been on the third film. Even if Trevorrow had brought in something like
Jurassic World -- i.e. generally mediocre with one or two variations on the original idea, together with a couple of standout performances -- at least it might've brought something slightly original to the table. But since Disney apparently prefers its directors connected to the puppet strings, we won't have that.
Instead, we now have our worst nightmare: JJ Abrams has been brought back to direct the third instalment, and will be writing the fucking film along with Chris Terrio, last seen bending over and getting fucked up the arse in the course of writing
Batman v Superman. I'm fully expecting a retread of
ROTJ, which is going to be pretty fucking awful since the original film was the dodgiest of the first three, featuring Carrie Fisher performing while high on coke and Harrison Ford acting like he was.
Remissas, discite, vivet.
God save us from people who mean well. -storm