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A Sheriff's Deputy was murdered.
#26

A Sheriff's Deputy was murdered.

Has nation of islam done anything remotely productive (or positive) in the last 30 years aside from work security detail/part time muscle for rappers.

It's really suspicious that guys like Farrakhan are still around when Malcolm X was killed. It makes me think that the extremism he represents is purposely propped up behind the scenes by some people.

Now he's popping up again to fan the flames that the media has started..so convenient. I remember the last time we saw him front and center in the mainstream was the million man march.
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#27

A Sheriff's Deputy was murdered.

As someone who's reviewed hundreds of cases of criminals like this, and I mean poring over the rap sheets and the blow-by-blow police reports of how they murdered someone-- one thing immediately stood out with this cop-killer, a common factors I've seen: Gun convictions after other convictions.

They are guys who cannot learn normal social inhibitions, I mean the good kind that keeps you from murdering a pizza delivery guy because he's late. This type of guy has, say, car theft felonies and assaults, and still walks around packing because NO ONE can tell him what to do. He PRIDES himself on his total refusal to follow anyone's rules.

They're the murderers I've seen in prison at 18, 23, 25 years old with 15 or more arrests.

They've always existed in all societies ( except maybe limited demographics, like salarymen of Japan), they cannot be cured with current tech, and they have to be kept locked up more or less forever if you're not wiling to have lots of executions which in my opinion do more harm to the society overall than good (but that's a separate issue.)

There's no race war coming. I'm white and I dealt with worst, most violent black guys in prison and they didn't hate me because I was white. When they hated me, they hated me because I wouldn't hook them up with something that they wanted.

It was the Aryan nation(white) guys who were the worst, racist fucks-- incredibly scary lizard like psychopaths. They scared me way more than the black guys did. Thankfully there are less maniacal guys like that than there are black criminals.
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#28

A Sheriff's Deputy was murdered.

Quote: (08-31-2015 11:04 PM)Atlanta Man Wrote:  

Quote: (08-31-2015 05:35 PM)TonySandos Wrote:  

Quote: (08-29-2015 05:52 PM)Atlanta Man Wrote:  

Do not go for penning this on Black Lives Matter, sometimes people are just crazy...

It's responses like this that make "the race thread" a big thing.

I've noticed a tread that, usually, low post count and/or reputation posters either:

a)start out the discussion trying to define subject no go zones

b)respond with theatrical or bombastic low content posts that don't tend to say much aside from how the person they're replying to shouldn't have dared to say what they did.

c)enigmatic profile, but posts heavy anecdotal observations and weighty moral judgments on the person for their idea

d)because of other peoples thoughts I'm going to make a dramatic exit

e)go to the offended poster's page. They'll likely have a history of blowing the rape whistle on race mentions without thoughtful content in return

I'd rather say my piece than just pretend I didn't see disappointing opinionating going on. The forceful blind eye being turned here because someone posters are worried their commentary will get them banned due to excited denouncement is forcefully pulling a blind eye over these topics even though you choose to discuss them.

The bottom line should be that calls for censure should only come over purposefully grandiose racial conspiracy and blatant slurring epithets.


Firstly, the Roanoke/Vester Flanagan shooting was racist, racially charged, hate crime, whatever else you want to call it that leads to race being the main cause. If someone disagrees with that, please indicate what factors make for a clearly racial case when it's black on white? Vester Flanagan had left a wide, damning trail of evidence that clearly spoke his intention. If red-handed isn't enough, then what is?

If this is scary to some people, know that acknowledging this fact doesn't mean you've enrolled yourself in a race war army for any particular side, it's just acknowledging the truth even if you don't like what it points at. I feel this needed to be said because it was rough to see most people endorse the same desperate to look anywhere else sentiment that a social justice rag endorsed http://www.rawstory.com/2015/08/he-shot-...ate-crime/
I post quite a lot and you only have one more rep point than I do. Furthermore I was advising people not to buy the narrative that BLM was somehow responsible for this particular incident. The shooter was fucking nuts, He was charged for aggravated assault in 2012 and was adjudicated mentally incompetent and placed in a mental health facility. His own mother turned his crazy ass in for this recent shooting.

As for Vester shooting those people in VA, he had a prior beef with them. He may have had racial issues, but he was obviously fucking nuts as well- he praised the VA Tech shooter, the Columbine Shooter, and Chris Dorner. In case you have not noticed most mass shooters have some racial shit to say along with their other perceived slights(or actual slights in the case of Chris Dorner). With Roof in Charleston he shot people he had no prior beef with solely over race so it is a little different than Vester in VA-Vester finished the reporter and the cameraman off with headshots but walked right past the lady from the chamber of commerce(who was wounded from his initial volley of shots) seems kind of personal to me.

Are you aware two idiots in Boston attacked a homeless hispanic man and claimed they were inspired by Trump? Trump should drop out of the race and all of you that support him should withdraw your support immediately because of the behaviour of these two random dipshits in Boston. I lay this tragedy right at Trump's feet because that is a totally responsible and reasonable way to look at this assault in Boston. (sarcasm, of course it is unreasonable to link random foolish acts to larger movements because of some possible abstract connection)

Remember white people; shoot people you know first so it doesn't get called a racial incident. How could we have overlooked this for so long!?

Are you aware the Flanagan manifesto is floating around the internet and some of us have read it? Its racial.

Again, if caught with the bloody hand is not good enough, there's only the conclusion that you can't commit a hate crime against white people.

IKE said
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It was the Aryan nation(white) guys who were the worst, racist fucks-- incredibly scary lizard like psychopaths. They scared me way more than the black guys did. Thankfully there are less maniacal guys like that than there are black criminals.

Is this an endorsement of racial genetic differences along behavior and disposition lines?

I'm not trolling, I just see how these topics cut one way and there would be a loud opposition to such a statement being allowed if the colors were reversed. Let's drop the censorship and complaining from anyone who chooses to discuss these threads. No one forced anyone to participate, so it grinds my gears when I see sympathy-grab howling over peoples statements.
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#29

A Sheriff's Deputy was murdered.

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I post quite a lot and you only have one more rep point than I do. Furthermore I was advising people not to buy the narrative that BLM was somehow responsible for this particular incident. The shooter was fucking nuts, He was charged for aggravated assault in 2012 and was adjudicated mentally incompetent and placed in a mental health facility. His own mother turned his crazy ass in for this recent shooting.

As for Vester shooting those people in VA, he had a prior beef with them. He may have had racial issues, but he was obviously fucking nuts as well- he praised the VA Tech shooter, the Columbine Shooter, and Chris Dorner. In case you have not noticed most mass shooters have some racial shit to say along with their other perceived slights(or actual slights in the case of Chris Dorner). With Roof in Charleston he shot people he had no prior beef with solely over race so it is a little different than Vester in VA-Vester finished the reporter and the cameraman off with headshots but walked right past the lady from the chamber of commerce(who was wounded from his initial volley of shots) seems kind of personal to me.

Are you aware two idiots in Boston attacked a homeless hispanic man and claimed they were inspired by Trump? Trump should drop out of the race and all of you that support him should withdraw your support immediately because of the behaviour of these two random dipshits in Boston. I lay this tragedy right at Trump's feet because that is a totally responsible and reasonable way to look at this assault in Boston. (sarcasm, of course it is unreasonable to link random foolish acts to larger movements because of some possible abstract connection)
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Remember white people; shoot people you know first so it doesn't get called a racial incident. How could we have overlooked this for so long!?

Are you aware the Flanagan manifesto is floating around the internet and some of us have read it? Its racial.

Again, if caught with the bloody hand is not good enough, there's only the conclusion that you can't commit a hate crime against white people.
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You misinterpreted what I said or willfully ignored it. Vester stalked and killed people he had a prior beef with on live television at 6:45 am on a Tuesday. His manifesto is the rantings of a mentally disturbed man giving praise to other mass shooters in a scattershot wonton fashion with no regard to their motivations. Vester did not go to a mall, school or other public place and randomly target every white person he saw-He went specifically after people he worked with previously and had a grudge. Since you are fucking Sherlock Holmes did you see where he claimed to target the cameraman for reporting him to HR? Did you see where he shot the reporter because of comments she made when they worked together? The game is afoot Sherlock, instead of his manifesto look at what he said immediately before and after he shot the people and when he posted the video. If he wanted to just kill white people why didn't he continue his rampage? Why didn't he kill the woman from the chamber of commerce? Why didn't he kill more of the general public? Maybe he had a grudge, maybe he stalked particular victims, maybe you are talking out of your ass and don't know anything, maybe the guy who shot that trooper was nuts and had nothing to do with BLM, maybe you would blame everything on race no matter what the facts are, maybe you took everything I wrote out of context because you really are just a shit starter who had no intention of having an intelligent discussion.

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#30

A Sheriff's Deputy was murdered.

"Since you are fucking Sherlock Holmes did you see where he claimed to target the cameraman for reporting him to HR? Did you see where he shot the reporter because of comments she made when they worked together? The game is afoot Sherlock, instead of his manifesto look at what he said immediately before and after he shot the people and when he posted the video."

"maybe you are talking out of your ass and don't know anything, maybe the guy who shot that trooper was nuts and had nothing to do with BLM, maybe you would blame everything on race no matter what the facts are, maybe you took everything I wrote out of context because you really are just a shit starter who had no intention of having an intelligent discussion."

See, you're already too emotionally entwined in this subject for it to be productive. You also called me a purposeful shit starter, so that could be read as a plea for others to disregard me or have my opinions censured. I'm done after this so you can have the final say and it will end before anyone get banned.

I actually had to privilege of watching the live tweets and facebook posts this man made as this situation happened. He said quite starkly for one example; "X made racial comments". It doesn't matter if he knew her or not nor his mental state, that' signified his primary motivation.

I don't care to argue if blacklivesmatter had anything to do with this. I haven't argued that point as far I remember, I'm explicitly stating that the incident was racial. I could go on over racially motivating killing for days to rpove that the narrative would be spoken as "clear, obvious, plain as day" if it were a white shooter. Using your line of logic, I could make a similar case to Dylan roof being an addled individual as the true reason those people died instead of racial animus. The gamechanger in that is nearly everyone accepts it for what it is without realizing you could play devils advocate to a similar, disheartening degree whether it's true or not. There have been high profile cases in recent years where the standard of evidence is set very low for the public to deem it racially motivated when it's white on black. Look at the cop who shot the guy trying to drive away on him. "BUT HE DIDN'T EVEN KNOW HIM!" "HE HAD MANY OTHER MOTIVATIONS!" See what I'm saying?
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#31

A Sheriff's Deputy was murdered.

dupe
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#32

A Sheriff's Deputy was murdered.

Quote: (09-01-2015 11:54 AM)TonySandos Wrote:  

IKE said
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It was the Aryan nation(white) guys who were the worst, racist fucks-- incredibly scary lizard like psychopaths. They scared me way more than the black guys did. Thankfully there are less maniacal guys like that than there are black criminals.

Is this an endorsement of racial genetic differences along behavior and disposition lines?

Not from me, I am a liberal anti-racist.

I believe in giving every person a chance based on their own behavior.

A person should be judged on their OWN behavior, not on the behavior of others judged to be from the same race.

Race and religion hate are truly poisonous, history is filled with murder done with that excuse.

If you want to judge murderers by numbers, neither Hitler, Stalin or Mao were black, so I think blacks are sort of behind in the Murder Olympics of History, even counting Rwanda I guess. Look at what the Japanese did to the Chinese in WW2, but now Japan is probably a very low crime country.

You can cherry pick a certain geographic area at a certain time, and come up with judgmental stuff against lots of ethnic groups, but what's the utility?

To start killing people yourself, based on your theories?
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#33

A Sheriff's Deputy was murdered.

Decent non ghetto black Americans exemplify Edmund Burke's quote "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." The few who do dare to speak out are labeled Uncle Toms, vilified as sell outs and self hating.

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#34

A Sheriff's Deputy was murdered.

Quote: (09-01-2015 12:47 PM)iknowexactly Wrote:  

Quote: (09-01-2015 11:54 AM)TonySandos Wrote:  

IKE said
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It was the Aryan nation(white) guys who were the worst, racist fucks-- incredibly scary lizard like psychopaths. They scared me way more than the black guys did. Thankfully there are less maniacal guys like that than there are black criminals.

Is this an endorsement of racial genetic differences along behavior and disposition lines?

Not from me, I am a liberal anti-racist. Since I worked in health care in prisons, I am reporting my impressions
on actual individuals I saw.

I believe in giving every person a chance based on their own behavior.

A person should be judged on their OWN behavior, not on the behavior of others judged to be from the same race.

Race and religion hate are truly poisonous, history is filled with murder done with that excuse. You can do statistics
if you want, but what's the application?

In my personal life I judge individuals as individuals and I hate no one but evil people, but populations are populations and I think by now most of us know that anti-racist is a leftist codeword.

"Men willingly believe what they wish." - Julius Caesar, De Bello Gallico, Book III, Ch. 18
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#35

A Sheriff's Deputy was murdered.

Quote: (09-01-2015 12:56 PM)Kingsley Davis Wrote:  

Decent non ghetto black Americans exemplify Edmund Burke's quote "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." The few who do dare to speak out are labeled Uncle Toms, vilified as sell outs and self hating.

Culturally, good black people are greatly hindered when it comes to lifting out of their social economic situation because of the double knockout of popularized negative aspects of the culture teaching young non-blacks to idolized and exemplify the negative sector of the demographic. The second obstacle is their sheer lack of options in escaping to greener social cohesion because they're surrounded by; a dysfunctional, low trust culture that demands successes be paid for, financial good fortune divvied up among friends and relatives with their hands out(lest the be ostracized as uppity or greedy); immediate cultural ramifications of no snitches, thug exemplification and lack of social support in defending their property or gains in honorable manor within the law. You have to hide your success and material good fortunes or be fed upon to make it in urban communities. families may maintain regular contact, but often the relationships are dysfunctional and unnecessarily petty for what you'd expect from a family interaction.
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#36

A Sheriff's Deputy was murdered.

Quote: (09-01-2015 12:39 PM)TonySandos Wrote:  

"Since you are fucking Sherlock Holmes did you see where he claimed to target the cameraman for reporting him to HR? Did you see where he shot the reporter because of comments she made when they worked together? The game is afoot Sherlock, instead of his manifesto look at what he said immediately before and after he shot the people and when he posted the video."

"maybe you are talking out of your ass and don't know anything, maybe the guy who shot that trooper was nuts and had nothing to do with BLM, maybe you would blame everything on race no matter what the facts are, maybe you took everything I wrote out of context because you really are just a shit starter who had no intention of having an intelligent discussion."

See, you're already too emotionally entwined in this subject for it to be productive. You also called me a purposeful shit starter, so that could be read as a plea for others to disregard me or have my opinions censured. I'm done after this so you can have the final say and it will end before anyone get banned.

I actually had to privilege of watching the live tweets and facebook posts this man made as this situation happened. He said quite starkly for one example; "X made racial comments". It doesn't matter if he knew her or not nor his mental state, that' signified his primary motivation.

I don't care to argue if blacklivesmatter had anything to do with this. I haven't argued that point as far I remember, I'm explicitly stating that the incident was racial. I could go on over racially motivating killing for days to rpove that the narrative would be spoken as "clear, obvious, plain as day" if it were a white shooter. Using your line of logic, I could make a similar case to Dylan roof being an addled individual as the true reason those people died instead of racial animus. The gamechanger in that is nearly everyone accepts it for what it is without realizing you could play devils advocate to a similar, disheartening degree whether it's true or not. There have been high profile cases in recent years where the standard of evidence is set very low for the public to deem it racially motivated when it's white on black. Look at the cop who shot the guy trying to drive away on him. "BUT HE DIDN'T EVEN KNOW HIM!" "HE HAD MANY OTHER MOTIVATIONS!" See what I'm saying?
Pretend all you want, you insulted and made insinuations about me first earlier in this thread and my comments were limited to BLM. You claimed I was a low rep low post member attempting to mischaracterize the entire discussion then took it a step further and mocked my response to your argument. Spare your me your mockery and your weak attempts at high road posturing,you fool no one but yourself. I made reasoned comments to your ill advised critique of my initial statement about BLM, you made this personal from your first contribution to this thread and continued to be dismissive and unconstructive unprovoked by me. Perhaps you should go to Heartiste and comment there, the audience will be more receptive to your schtick.[Image: tard.gif]

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#37

A Sheriff's Deputy was murdered.

http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2015/09/0...supporter/

A fat, gelatinous white hog who supports Black Lives Matter and studies English in college (which is a major full of Marxists for whatever reason) said the cop who got shot 15 times had creepy perv eyes (something a feminist would say) and wonders why no one asks what he did to deserve being killed.

She's another one of those types who hate the cops but would be the first to waddle to a phone and call them if she needed them, though.

"Men willingly believe what they wish." - Julius Caesar, De Bello Gallico, Book III, Ch. 18
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#38

A Sheriff's Deputy was murdered.

Quote: (09-01-2015 01:20 PM)TheWastelander Wrote:  

http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2015/09/0...supporter/

A fat, gelatinous white hog who supports Black Lives Matter and studies English in college (which is a major full of Marxists for whatever reason) said the cop who got shot 15 times had creepy perv eyes (something a feminist would say) and wonders why no one asks what he did to deserve being killed.

She's another one of those types who hate the cops but would be the first to waddle to a phone and call them if she needed them, though.

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#39

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Ok, actual last response to stop some misconceptions;

" Pretend all you want, you insulted and made insinuations about me first earlier in this thread and my comments were limited to BLM. You claimed I was a low rep low post member attempting to mischaracterize the entire discussion then took it a step further and mocked my response to your argument"

I said, "I've noticed trends..." does not equal all of that directed at you simply because you were quoted.

Show some clear example of insult. It's quite apparent to me that there was no insult present in any of my responses.

"Perhaps you should go to Heartiste and comment"

This is the "you're a Nazi" reply with different wording. It's not your job to tell other posters what they can or should say. That's up to moderators. This Nazi route is a technique to steer perception against me for my opinions. Watching this happen and see it fully steer many race related threads is beyond old.

(Edit: What was said in the first place that was actually worthy of the Heartiste comparison?)

That's my primary contention with this thread and other threads like this. The trend of "these are the boundaries and permissible things that are allowed in this discussion, or else 'racist, Nazi, wow this place is too racist for me to be here anymore(to stir sympathy), omg how could you think that, that's out of line but I won't tactfully explain the subject matter more than the poster and his response'.
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#40

A Sheriff's Deputy was murdered.

Quote: (09-01-2015 01:28 PM)TonySandos Wrote:  

Ok, actual last response to stop some misconceptions;

" Pretend all you want, you insulted and made insinuations about me first earlier in this thread and my comments were limited to BLM. You claimed I was a low rep low post member attempting to mischaracterize the entire discussion then took it a step further and mocked my response to your argument"

I said, "I've noticed trends..." does not equal all of that directed at you simply because you were quoted.

Show some clear example of insult. It's quite apparent to me that there was no insult present in any of my responses.

"Perhaps you should go to Heartiste and comment"

This is the "you're a Nazi" reply with different wording. It's not your job to tell other posters what they can or should say. That's up to moderators. This Nazi route is a technique to steer perception against me for my opinions. Watching this happen and see it fully steer many race related threads is beyond old.

(Edit: What was said in the first place that was actually worthy of the Heartiste comparison?)

That's my primary contention with this thread and other threads like this. The trend of "these are the boundaries and permissible things that are allowed in this discussion, or else 'racist, Nazi, wow this place is too racist for me to be here anymore(to stir sympathy), omg how could you think that, that's out of line but I won't tactfully explain the subject matter more than the poster and his response'.
Dude what the fuck ever, you win. Happy?

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