[Saweeep]

(08-28-2015 07:52 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

CrashBangWallop - I was born in the UK, so don't take it personal.

I had the sunday pub brunch, the chicken still had ice in it when they served it. I believe they cooked it in the microwave, truly unbelievable.

The place was in Fueringola (Malaga).

I was just kidding mate.

Most of the idiots running those places in Spain have never cooked anything in their lives before opening their horrible "eateries".

[Going strong]

(08-29-2015 10:44 AM)offthereservation Wrote:  

(08-29-2015 04:22 AM)Going strong Wrote:  

(08-28-2015 10:59 PM)lavidaloca Wrote:  

I think it sounds better than it really is. A lot of people imagine themselves owning the popular nightclub with attracts the high end chicks. Unfortunately 9/10 owners have a mediocre bar / night club that isn't really a huge DHV. It's a job that will have you working awful hours as well. Who really wants to work at 2am on a Saturday?

I'd love to be the owner of the nightlife hot spot in a city but I certainly wouldn't want to be the owner of Frankies Neighborhood Bar & Grill. Option 1 will give me access to local models. Option 2 will give me access to 35 year old woman with 3 kids from 3 dads.

The problem is with 30-40k I don't really see you having the investment capital to turn it into a hot spot or high end place. Although I'm guessing that isn't your goal. 30-40k also seems rather low to me to start this type of business.

Typically the best businesses are one with high barriers to entry and / or industry that aren't sexy. Bars / Nightclubs is a sexy industry with low barrier to entry. That combination screams bad investment.

But 30k or 40k are more than enough in some 3d or 2d-world places (once again, Sihanoukville, or Subic Bay come to mind)

About Puerto Rico, it is indeed interesting!
But what do you mean, "no immigration requirement"? Only for US citizens, surely? And what about labor costs? It is the first-world after all, surely it is nowhere as cheap as the Rep Dominicana? What would 30k represent in Puerto Rico, not much I guess?

About English food, no offense meant, it is more like a joke we French enjoy to make, each time there is talk about English food. I actually like fish and chips (and beer), and cheesecakes...

No immigration requirements to move from the US or if you are a US resident or citizen. 30K is not much anywhere but you can make it work if you want to. Labor rates in PR lowest in the US. While labor is cheaper in the DR I do not find DR cheap otherwise. Have you been any of these places?

Thanks for your input and info on Puerto Rico... I haven't been to PR or DR yet, but I do speak, fluently, Spanish (castellano), having lived for a long time in Latin America.

Anyway, PR is now on my radar, thanks. I wonder why I hadn't thought about PR before: probably a sign that PR doesn't make enough marketing in foreign media?... By marketing I mean, broadcasting stuff like Colombia did: "Colombia, the only risk is that you'll want to stay" again and again... that was a good publicity campaign, that one.

Well, in any case, if and when I open my bar, RVFers coming to town will enjoy special discounts in it... including the British RVFers!
(So that I recognize you, you'll have to say a code-word, I'll think of one)

[Suits]

(08-29-2015 10:30 PM)Going strong Wrote:  

(So that I recognize you, you'll have to say a code-word, I'll think of one)

"Sir, I'd like a glass of your finest hamster."

[Going strong]

(08-30-2015 04:32 AM)Suits Wrote:  

(08-29-2015 10:30 PM)Going strong Wrote:  

(So that I recognize you, you'll have to say a code-word, I'll think of one)

"Sir, I'd like a glass of your finest hamster."

Only hamsters allowed in my bar, will be bad-ass black-belt hamsters:



But, I do plan on offering, free of charge, my RVF customers this excellent Dutch beer, the Gulpener Korenwolf:



(The Korenwolf is a hamster so wild and voracious, it is actually called the wolf of corn fields!)

[Off The Reservation]

(08-29-2015 10:30 PM)Going strong Wrote:  

(08-29-2015 10:44 AM)offthereservation Wrote:  

(08-29-2015 04:22 AM)Going strong Wrote:  

(08-28-2015 10:59 PM)lavidaloca Wrote:  

I think it sounds better than it really is. A lot of people imagine themselves owning the popular nightclub with attracts the high end chicks. Unfortunately 9/10 owners have a mediocre bar / night club that isn't really a huge DHV. It's a job that will have you working awful hours as well. Who really wants to work at 2am on a Saturday?

I'd love to be the owner of the nightlife hot spot in a city but I certainly wouldn't want to be the owner of Frankies Neighborhood Bar & Grill. Option 1 will give me access to local models. Option 2 will give me access to 35 year old woman with 3 kids from 3 dads.

The problem is with 30-40k I don't really see you having the investment capital to turn it into a hot spot or high end place. Although I'm guessing that isn't your goal. 30-40k also seems rather low to me to start this type of business.

Typically the best businesses are one with high barriers to entry and / or industry that aren't sexy. Bars / Nightclubs is a sexy industry with low barrier to entry. That combination screams bad investment.

But 30k or 40k are more than enough in some 3d or 2d-world places (once again, Sihanoukville, or Subic Bay come to mind)

About Puerto Rico, it is indeed interesting!
But what do you mean, "no immigration requirement"? Only for US citizens, surely? And what about labor costs? It is the first-world after all, surely it is nowhere as cheap as the Rep Dominicana? What would 30k represent in Puerto Rico, not much I guess?

About English food, no offense meant, it is more like a joke we French enjoy to make, each time there is talk about English food. I actually like fish and chips (and beer), and cheesecakes...

No immigration requirements to move from the US or if you are a US resident or citizen. 30K is not much anywhere but you can make it work if you want to. Labor rates in PR lowest in the US. While labor is cheaper in the DR I do not find DR cheap otherwise. Have you been any of these places?

Thanks for your input and info on Puerto Rico... I haven't been to PR or DR yet, but I do speak, fluently, Spanish (castellano), having lived for a long time in Latin America.

Anyway, PR is now on my radar, thanks. I wonder why I hadn't thought about PR before: probably a sign that PR doesn't make enough marketing in foreign media?... By marketing I mean, broadcasting stuff like Colombia did: "Colombia, the only risk is that you'll want to stay" again and again... that was a good publicity campaign, that one.

Well, in any case, if and when I open my bar, RVFers coming to town will enjoy special discounts in it... including the British RVFers!
(So that I recognize you, you'll have to say a code-word, I'll think of one)

Where in Latin America? I have been to every country in South America. I learned my Spanish (very fluent) in Miami.

[Tigre]

Have you considered a combined hostel and co-working space?

It's easier to manage, and co-working spaces are a growing trend among hard core travelers.

If you get a big network or community forming around you, you can run a weekly event at a bar or event space and try to monetize it that way.

[PeruLover12]

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