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Person Of Interest: Varg Vikernes
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Person Of Interest: Varg Vikernes

Quote: (08-24-2015 01:48 PM)Benoit Wrote:  

Until the Light Takes Us is an enlightening documentary about the roots and reasons behind the black metal scene.

Vikernes is a genuine psychopath. He talks about the murder as if it was any other day in his life. No emotional response to memories of stabbing a man to death.

But the motivations behind the movement should be familiar - it's based around anger at the destruction of traditional ways by interlopers, who use force to make people conform to new ways of 'acceptable' thought and behaviour.

He was charged with murder but he has always maintained that it was self defense - because the guy was telling people that he was going to torture varg and film it. Seems outrageous, but the guy (Euronymous) made necklaces out of chips of the skull of his fellow band mate who had committed suicide.

If that guy was making threats to kill you.. What do you do? Wait for him? I don't know - obviously there are better ways to handle things, but in that sub culture they don't stand down from violence.
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Person Of Interest: Varg Vikernes

Lords of Chaos was a good read
http://www.amazon.ca/Lords-Chaos-Bloody-...s+of+chaos
They say its inaccurate etc but take it for what it is.

While Varg does get some things right ....humanity isn't going to go back to living in caves any time soon
The guy is a ticking time bomb and its only a matter of time till he flips out again.
I'd be wary to be aligned with him in any way...
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Person Of Interest: Varg Vikernes

Quote: (08-24-2015 01:34 AM)eatthishomie Wrote:  

Mayhem's back story is one of the craziest most fucked up insane back stories in the history of music.

How many bands have a suicide and a murder before their first official album comes out?

Yeah definitely a pretty crazy scene. Makes marilyn manson etc look like total clowns in comparison
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Person Of Interest: Varg Vikernes

Quote: (08-24-2015 03:17 PM)hedonist Wrote:  

Lords of Chaos was a good read
http://www.amazon.ca/Lords-Chaos-Bloody-...s+of+chaos
They say its inaccurate etc but take it for what it is.

While Varg does get some things right ....humanity isn't going to go back to living in caves any time soon
The guy is a ticking time bomb and its only a matter of time till he flips out again.
I'd be wary to be aligned with him in any way...

He doesn't think that people should live in caves. He made another video explaining that he doesn't want humans to turn into fat people from Wall-E. That we have too much technology.






And he's a family man now, so he probably won't do anything crazy.
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Person Of Interest: Varg Vikernes

Quote: (08-24-2015 03:36 PM)deathtofatties Wrote:  

Quote: (08-24-2015 03:17 PM)hedonist Wrote:  

Lords of Chaos was a good read
http://www.amazon.ca/Lords-Chaos-Bloody-...s+of+chaos
They say its inaccurate etc but take it for what it is.

While Varg does get some things right ....humanity isn't going to go back to living in caves any time soon
The guy is a ticking time bomb and its only a matter of time till he flips out again.
I'd be wary to be aligned with him in any way...

He doesn't think that people should live in caves. He made another video explaining that he doesn't want humans to turn into fat people from Wall-E. That we have too much technology.






And he's a family man now, so he probably won't do anything crazy.

Lol
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-23327165

Not to mention he got caught with a bunch of guns in Norway during his sentence when he didn't return to prison (can go home on weekends during a prison sentence in Norway in some instances!)

Caves wasn't the right word, but technology is not going to stop....what about fighting diseases? Space travel?

That's what I am getting at...Varg wants no part of that.

I'd put money on the guy committing crimes again in the future....
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#31

Person Of Interest: Varg Vikernes

Interesting.

This guy has obviously done a lot of reading while in prison. I don't agree with most of his worldview, but at least he's cogent and civilized.

What I thought was worth mentioning was something no one commented on: the fact that he made an honest attempt to rebuild his life after a long prison sentence.

According to Wikipedia, he got out after 15 years or so, and moved to France and became a family man. To me, this is significant.

It tells us that, no matter how badly you are hit by life, you can always start over. You need money to live in France.

I have no idea how he got the money to do that after years in prison, but it tells us that all of our excuses are just that: excuses.

If you really want to do something, you will find a way.
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Person Of Interest: Varg Vikernes

Quote: (08-24-2015 04:02 PM)hedonist Wrote:  

Lol
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-23327165

Not to mention he got caught with a bunch of guns in Norway during his sentence when he didn't return to prison (can go home on weekends during a prison sentence in Norway in some instances!)

Caves wasn't the right word, but technology is not going to stop....what about fighting diseases? Space travel?

That's what I am getting at...Varg wants no part of that.

I'd put money on the guy committing crimes again in the future....

His wife legally purchased the rifles.

He was arrested in France out of suspicion and, I think, some haters accused him of being up something after the whole Breivik incident. Once the case made it to court, they had to let him go because he didn't commit any crimes in France.

He might get arrested again though, because you know, he doesn't think the way the cucked society wants him to.
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Person Of Interest: Varg Vikernes

Quote: (08-24-2015 04:13 PM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  

I have no idea how he got the money to do that after years in prison, but it tells us that all of our excuses are just that: excuses.

He's fairly famous in the underground metal world, so that right there is a source of income -- specifically his music, and a couple books he wrote.

He lives off the land, thus he doesn't spend as much, he doesn't "travel". I suspect his wife owns the farm. So there's an off the grid tip for the day: Marry a chick with a farm.

And he manages to raise 3 or 4 children. Incredible.




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Person Of Interest: Varg Vikernes

[quote] (08-24-2015 04:22 PM)deathtofatties Wrote:  

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He might get arrested again though, because you know, he doesn't think the way the cucked society wants him to.[/quote]

Judging by your avi your mind is made up already, but I think "cucked society" probably is a lot less fucked up than a murderer and someone that writes absolute racist shit like this.


http://www.burzum.com/burzum/library/text/vargsmal/


I repeat steadily about the strongest right, here also the prettiest right, but we know after all also that matching one with blue eyes with one with brown eyes, most often the offspring gets brown eyes. This could probably mean that brown eyes are stronger and the blue weak, but it is not.Blue eyes are eyes with eternity's and heaven's color. The ocean is blue, many pretty flowers are blue! Brown eyes, what are they? Manure is brown, we shit brown!So why does brown repress the blue? It is simple. If we blend ocean water (blue eyes) with dirty water (brown eyes) then we get dirtier water. It is a bit darker. It shall take a lot to get the water clean and clearer than it is to get it dirtier. This is the reason for the children of the parents, one with blue and one with brown, most likely to inherit the brown "dirty" eyes.

In order to improve our looks we must think of racial hygiene. It is important that 2 people with brown eyes don't mix, for they get an equally bad child as they are themselves. Blend 2 with blue eyes then they get an equally well child like themselves. This is one of the reasons that we ought to accept polygamy. A man with blue eyes and blond hair can have a wife with brown eyes, and another with blue. The children of the one with brown eyes becomes better than the mother because they inherit half of the fathers genes. This child must again pair with another with blue eyes and blond hair. This is how we wash out bad genes. This takes time, but is important to improve our people. The brown genes will probably dominate over the blue for the reason explained above, but with time they are washed out entirely. This is a long range way of thinking, there is no doubt of this, but it is exactly what we must begin to think, in order to improve the people in all possible ways. In order to survive as a people.
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Person Of Interest: Varg Vikernes

Quote: (08-24-2015 10:44 AM)deathtofatties Wrote:  

Quote: (08-24-2015 04:04 AM)RedPillUK Wrote:  

He also has stopped playing music with guitars as apparently that's a 'n****r instrument'. So he uses keyboards instead, like keyboards and pianos have never been played by black people? Retard.

Where did you pull that from?

He still plays guitar.

I remember reading about it on his website probably about eight or ten years ago, I probably stopped reading after that. I don't remember a lot about what he used to write about but that definitely stuck out to me.
I'm pretty sure he said that when he was in prison and he was in a recording music on a keyboard.

I used to be only into metal back then. I played drums in a thrash metal band, and I got to play with some awesome bands Accept, Forbidden, Evile, Gama Bomb, Criminal... Anyway I always thought those black metallers that I'd run into or would play with were mainly nerds that just seemed a bit too into the dark fantasy side of everything.. haha .. I agree with you that, I didn't hate all black metal or anything though.

"Especially Roosh offers really good perspectives. But like MW said, at the end of the day, is he one of us?"

- Reciproke, posted on the Roosh V Forum.
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Person Of Interest: Varg Vikernes

Quote: (08-24-2015 06:27 PM)hedonist Wrote:  

[quote] (08-24-2015 04:22 PM)deathtofatties Wrote:  

(08-24-2015, 09:02 PM)hedonist Wrote:  He might get arrested again though, because you know, he doesn't think the way the cucked society wants him to.

Judging by your avi your mind is made up already, but I think "cucked society" probably is a lot less fucked up than a murderer and someone that writes absolute racist shit like this.


http://www.burzum.com/burzum/library/text/vargsmal/


I repeat steadily about the strongest right, here also the prettiest right, but we know after all also that matching one with blue eyes with one with brown eyes, most often the offspring gets brown eyes. This could probably mean that brown eyes are stronger and the blue weak, but it is not.Blue eyes are eyes with eternity's and heaven's color. The ocean is blue, many pretty flowers are blue! Brown eyes, what are they? Manure is brown, we shit brown!So why does brown repress the blue? It is simple. If we blend ocean water (blue eyes) with dirty water (brown eyes) then we get dirtier water. It is a bit darker. It shall take a lot to get the water clean and clearer than it is to get it dirtier. This is the reason for the children of the parents, one with blue and one with brown, most likely to inherit the brown "dirty" eyes.

In order to improve our looks we must think of racial hygiene. It is important that 2 people with brown eyes don't mix, for they get an equally bad child as they are themselves. Blend 2 with blue eyes then they get an equally well child like themselves. This is one of the reasons that we ought to accept polygamy. A man with blue eyes and blond hair can have a wife with brown eyes, and another with blue. The children of the one with brown eyes becomes better than the mother because they inherit half of the fathers genes. This child must again pair with another with blue eyes and blond hair. This is how we wash out bad genes. This takes time, but is important to improve our people. The brown genes will probably dominate over the blue for the reason explained above, but with time they are washed out entirely. This is a long range way of thinking, there is no doubt of this, but it is exactly what we must begin to think, in order to improve the people in all possible ways. In order to survive as a people.

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Quote: (08-24-2015 04:04 AM)RedPillUK Wrote:  

And it truly is shit. Typical garage band bullshit, recorded on what sounds like a tape player with some screaming on top, and his bass playing on Mayhem's album.. you cant even hear it so why do people rate this 'musician' ..? He sounds and looks like an attention seeking weakling, faggot to me.

Duuude....Burzum is legendary and holds a special place in the dark hearts of black metal fans. And that's not even up for debate and regardless of what you think about Varg as a person.

The raw nature of the sound and the fact that it wasn't over-produced like much of the shit today makes it even better.

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#38

Person Of Interest: Varg Vikernes

I still listen to Burzum to this day. Varg has some of the best screams I have ever heard. But as a human, his beliefs are just as harsh as his music. Not exactly a dude I'd want to drink a beer with. However, he is still entertaining none the less. Another interesting character is/was Jon Nödtveidt from the Swedish band Dissecion.
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Person Of Interest: Varg Vikernes

Quote: (08-24-2015 04:04 AM)RedPillUK Wrote:  

The guys a nutcase who's got recognition from doing totally awesome black metal things like burning churches and deciding to kill his bandmate, rather than his shitty music. And it truly is shit. Typical garage band bullshit, recorded on what sounds like a tape player with some screaming on top, and his bass playing on Mayhem's album.. you cant even hear it so why do people rate this 'musician' ..? He sounds and looks like an attention seeking weakling, faggot to me.
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Seriously though, Varg is a badass. "Premeditated self-defense" has to be one of the funniest murder defenses ever.
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Person Of Interest: Varg Vikernes

Varg has been red pill since the early 90's.

The following video perfectly captures how felt and viewed society as a teenager, which eventually led me to metal and then to this site.






More importantly however, I think that the video resonates with many people besides teenagers and young adults. They know something is wrong, but do not know what exactly is wrong and why it is wrong. And probably, they are too afraid to say something lest they are ostracized from society.

On the contrary, Varg followed his gut and never looked back, which is why he should at least be respected, despite some of his controversial viewpoints.

Edit: The ending of the video kinda reminds of Roosh's video Why You Should Live In Downtown Silver Spring (Maryland). Globalization and the death of authentic genuine culture are also some of the main talking points of Varg.

Trump is playing chess while Soros is playing checkers, and the other cucks are off playing Candyland at Jeb's house. - iop890
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#41

Person Of Interest: Varg Vikernes

Amazing personality. I don't agree to all his views, but he seems like a genuine alfa male who is also a deep and reflective person in the same time.

If more people would have balls to live life like he does then we wouldn't have our liberal problems, our feminist problems, our immigration problems, our obesity problems, and probably also many other problems.

I really liked the video series by his wife about Bear cult - it explains so much about our traditions, many ancient mysteries and many elements of our common life and ties it all together in a neat way. The first three videos give clues and from the fourth video on they are tied together.

Here is the link to the first video in the series:






Go to youtube and watch the rest. Fascinating theory.
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#42

Person Of Interest: Varg Vikernes

I am surprised no one has yet mentioned that Varg blogs at Thulean Perspective.

"The great secret of happiness in love is to be glad that the other fellow married her." – H.L. Mencken
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Person Of Interest: Varg Vikernes

Varg calls his ideology Odalism:

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Ôðalism is in the strictest sense an ideology based on blood (of the native population) and soil (the homeland of the native population); protecting, promoting and if necessary reviving the customs, traditions, world view, values and religion that naturally came from each particular population in their homeland. It can be applied to each and every people on this planet, and will also be different to each and every people on this planet, because they are in essence different from each other. Ôðalism promotes true diversity; respect for every people’s right to have their own unique culture in their own native homelands. Africa for Native Africans. America for Native Americans. Asia for Native Asians. Australia for Native Australians. Europe for Native Europeans. The human population of this planet will be rich only if we keep the diversity, and make sure that no human races are lost, either through interbreeding with other more numerous or dominant races or through other genocidal politics, such as feminism and colonisation.

Ôðalism is opposed to all forms of internationalism, be it universal faiths such as the Judeo-Christian religions or Marxist ideologies, because internationalism is a threat to the human diversity of our planet. Each religion, culture, customs, traditions and world view stem from the blood and soil of a particular people, and can not be made universal.

Ôðalism is advocating the repatriation of all non-Europeans in Europe as the solution to the genocidal politics lead by most European nations today – and also repatriation of all unmixed Europeans from the former European colonies. Because of the young age of the Native American population, going no more than 18,000 years back in time, and also because of the fact that the Native American population is a mix between Asians and Europeans, America is a special case and should be treated as such. If nothing else America should serve as an example of how colonisation leads to genocide and a huge loss to mankind; the American Natives are almost extinct today, and so is their beautiful and colourful culture.

There is not hatred for others in Ôðalism, only love for your own. There is no destruction of others in Ôðalism, only protection and preservation of what is your own. There is no plans for world supremacy in Ôðalism, only love for and a strong link to the soil of the forebears. There is no interventionism or aggression in Ôðalism, only respect for each and every people’s right to rule itself as it sees fit.

Ôðalism is not nationalism in a modern sense: each and every modern nation is a modern construct based on geography (where the borders have been drawn) and ethnicity (i. e. languages spoken) instead of racial – or if you prefer tribal – identities. The Ôðalic nationalism is based on race. E. g. to Europeans today the European race (and different sub-races) is the nation. The language spoken is completely irrelevant in relation to racial identities.

"The great secret of happiness in love is to be glad that the other fellow married her." – H.L. Mencken
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Person Of Interest: Varg Vikernes

Huge Burzum and black metal fan here. Varg is clearly an intelligent guy and has the right idea about some things, but has some odd opinions about others and generally seems a bit loopy. Interesting man. He's written some of the best music ever created in my opinion, that has a true artistic quality to it. Like all good extreme music, it isn't merely entertainment. I admire him as much as a I view him now as someone's mad uncle since he got out of prison and continued making music that didn't need to be created. He had the perfect legacy left in place to just walk away and let it rest, but instead he contradicted his own statements and began making metal records again. I was dissappointed by that personally. It also doesn't help that his newer material is nowhere near as good.

The metal scene has become just as politicized and full of SJWs as anything else. Didn't we have a "metalgate" not that long ago?

"As wolves among sheep we have wandered"
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Person Of Interest: Varg Vikernes

I may get suspended for bumping this thread, but after seeing Rooshv's recent blog post (http://www.rooshv.com/city-life-is-a-simulation) I feel that this man and his views are much more relevant for Rooshv (and everyone) to really look into.
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#46

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Somewhat relevant and should be of interest. Relating to the point I made about SJW mentality in metal in the above post.

http://decibelmagazine.com/blog/2015/8/2...eceptacles

He does however make a very good point about "female fronted" bands being used as a selling point.

"As wolves among sheep we have wandered"
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Person Of Interest: Varg Vikernes

Quote: (09-15-2015 04:12 PM)UroboricForms Wrote:  

Somewhat relevant and should be of interest. Relating to the point I made about SJW mentality in metal in the above post.

http://decibelmagazine.com/blog/2015/8/2...eceptacles

He does however make a very good point about "female fronted" bands being used as a selling point.

SJWs in metal? What a joke. What a real joke.

I read half of that article, then I had to close it. It's just some male SJW complaining about what he heard from attention-whoring women in the metal scene wanting him to believe they're so desirable that they're being groped 24/7.

There are only a couple metal bands I like that are fronted by talented female vocalists (Nuclear Death with Lori Bravo, Holy Moses with Sabina Classen...) But in most cases it's just a selling point, like with Arch Enemy.
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Person Of Interest: Varg Vikernes

Indeed, it's a mostly very naive piece of writing. Shame as the guy writing it (Imperial from the band Krieg) has created some great music in the BM genre in the past. I trolled the comment section once or twice to some predictably funny results. Recommend others here do the same!

"As wolves among sheep we have wandered"
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#49

Person Of Interest: Varg Vikernes

Here's a short interview about him killing Euronymous:





"Men willingly believe what they wish." - Julius Caesar, De Bello Gallico, Book III, Ch. 18
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Person Of Interest: Varg Vikernes

Quote: (09-15-2015 04:30 PM)UroboricForms Wrote:  

Indeed, it's a mostly very naive piece of writing. Shame as the guy writing it (Imperial from the band Krieg) has created some great music in the BM genre in the past. I trolled the comment section once or twice to some predictably funny results. Recommend others here do the same!

Imperial from Krieg wrote this?

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I remember years ago reading an interview he did. He was talking about being a fat loser that drinks beer and eats pizza all day. I can't see him as being an SJW now, actually, yes I can.
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