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Person Of Interest: Varg Vikernes
08-24-2015, 02:24 PM
Quote: (08-24-2015 01:48 PM)Benoit Wrote:
Until the Light Takes Us is an enlightening documentary about the roots and reasons behind the black metal scene.
Vikernes is a genuine psychopath. He talks about the murder as if it was any other day in his life. No emotional response to memories of stabbing a man to death.
But the motivations behind the movement should be familiar - it's based around anger at the destruction of traditional ways by interlopers, who use force to make people conform to new ways of 'acceptable' thought and behaviour.
He was charged with murder but he has always maintained that it was self defense - because the guy was telling people that he was going to torture varg and film it. Seems outrageous, but the guy (Euronymous) made necklaces out of chips of the skull of his fellow band mate who had committed suicide.
If that guy was making threats to kill you.. What do you do? Wait for him? I don't know - obviously there are better ways to handle things, but in that sub culture they don't stand down from violence.
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08-24-2015, 04:13 PM
Interesting.
This guy has obviously done a lot of reading while in prison. I don't agree with most of his worldview, but at least he's cogent and civilized.
What I thought was worth mentioning was something no one commented on: the fact that he made an honest attempt to rebuild his life after a long prison sentence.
According to Wikipedia, he got out after 15 years or so, and moved to France and became a family man. To me, this is significant.
It tells us that, no matter how badly you are hit by life, you can always start over. You need money to live in France.
I have no idea how he got the money to do that after years in prison, but it tells us that all of our excuses are just that: excuses.
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08-24-2015, 07:23 PM
Quote: (08-24-2015 10:44 AM)deathtofatties Wrote:
Quote: (08-24-2015 04:04 AM)RedPillUK Wrote:
He also has stopped playing music with guitars as apparently that's a 'n****r instrument'. So he uses keyboards instead, like keyboards and pianos have never been played by black people? Retard.
Where did you pull that from?
He still plays guitar.
I remember reading about it on his website probably about eight or ten years ago, I probably stopped reading after that. I don't remember a lot about what he used to write about but that definitely stuck out to me.
I'm pretty sure he said that when he was in prison and he was in a recording music on a keyboard.
I used to be only into metal back then. I played drums in a thrash metal band, and I got to play with some awesome bands Accept, Forbidden, Evile, Gama Bomb, Criminal... Anyway I always thought those black metallers that I'd run into or would play with were mainly nerds that just seemed a bit too into the dark fantasy side of everything.. haha .. I agree with you that, I didn't hate all black metal or anything though.
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08-24-2015, 10:23 PM
I still listen to Burzum to this day. Varg has some of the best screams I have ever heard. But as a human, his beliefs are just as harsh as his music. Not exactly a dude I'd want to drink a beer with. However, he is still entertaining none the less. Another interesting character is/was Jon Nödtveidt from the Swedish band Dissecion.
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08-25-2015, 12:55 AM
Varg has been red pill since the early 90's.
The following video perfectly captures how felt and viewed society as a teenager, which eventually led me to metal and then to this site.
More importantly however, I think that the video resonates with many people besides teenagers and young adults. They know something is wrong, but do not know what exactly is wrong and why it is wrong. And probably, they are too afraid to say something lest they are ostracized from society.
On the contrary, Varg followed his gut and never looked back, which is why he should at least be respected, despite some of his controversial viewpoints.
Edit: The ending of the video kinda reminds of Roosh's video Why You Should Live In Downtown Silver Spring (Maryland). Globalization and the death of authentic genuine culture are also some of the main talking points of Varg.
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08-25-2015, 04:31 PM
I am surprised no one has yet mentioned that Varg blogs at
Thulean Perspective.
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08-25-2015, 04:54 PM
Varg calls his ideology
Odalism:
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Ôðalism is in the strictest sense an ideology based on blood (of the native population) and soil (the homeland of the native population); protecting, promoting and if necessary reviving the customs, traditions, world view, values and religion that naturally came from each particular population in their homeland. It can be applied to each and every people on this planet, and will also be different to each and every people on this planet, because they are in essence different from each other. Ôðalism promotes true diversity; respect for every people’s right to have their own unique culture in their own native homelands. Africa for Native Africans. America for Native Americans. Asia for Native Asians. Australia for Native Australians. Europe for Native Europeans. The human population of this planet will be rich only if we keep the diversity, and make sure that no human races are lost, either through interbreeding with other more numerous or dominant races or through other genocidal politics, such as feminism and colonisation.
Ôðalism is opposed to all forms of internationalism, be it universal faiths such as the Judeo-Christian religions or Marxist ideologies, because internationalism is a threat to the human diversity of our planet. Each religion, culture, customs, traditions and world view stem from the blood and soil of a particular people, and can not be made universal.
Ôðalism is advocating the repatriation of all non-Europeans in Europe as the solution to the genocidal politics lead by most European nations today – and also repatriation of all unmixed Europeans from the former European colonies. Because of the young age of the Native American population, going no more than 18,000 years back in time, and also because of the fact that the Native American population is a mix between Asians and Europeans, America is a special case and should be treated as such. If nothing else America should serve as an example of how colonisation leads to genocide and a huge loss to mankind; the American Natives are almost extinct today, and so is their beautiful and colourful culture.
There is not hatred for others in Ôðalism, only love for your own. There is no destruction of others in Ôðalism, only protection and preservation of what is your own. There is no plans for world supremacy in Ôðalism, only love for and a strong link to the soil of the forebears. There is no interventionism or aggression in Ôðalism, only respect for each and every people’s right to rule itself as it sees fit.
Ôðalism is not nationalism in a modern sense: each and every modern nation is a modern construct based on geography (where the borders have been drawn) and ethnicity (i. e. languages spoken) instead of racial – or if you prefer tribal – identities. The Ôðalic nationalism is based on race. E. g. to Europeans today the European race (and different sub-races) is the nation. The language spoken is completely irrelevant in relation to racial identities.
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08-25-2015, 06:17 PM
Huge Burzum and black metal fan here. Varg is clearly an intelligent guy and has the right idea about some things, but has some odd opinions about others and generally seems a bit loopy. Interesting man. He's written some of the best music ever created in my opinion, that has a true artistic quality to it. Like all good extreme music, it isn't merely entertainment. I admire him as much as a I view him now as someone's mad uncle since he got out of prison and continued making music that didn't need to be created. He had the perfect legacy left in place to just walk away and let it rest, but instead he contradicted his own statements and began making metal records again. I was dissappointed by that personally. It also doesn't help that his newer material is nowhere near as good.
The metal scene has become just as politicized and full of SJWs as anything else. Didn't we have a "metalgate" not that long ago?
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09-15-2015, 04:12 PM
Somewhat relevant and should be of interest. Relating to the point I made about SJW mentality in metal in the above post.
http://decibelmagazine.com/blog/2015/8/2...eceptacles
He does however make a very good point about "female fronted" bands being used as a selling point.
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09-15-2015, 04:30 PM
Indeed, it's a mostly very naive piece of writing. Shame as the guy writing it (Imperial from the band Krieg) has created some great music in the BM genre in the past. I trolled the comment section once or twice to some predictably funny results. Recommend others here do the same!
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09-15-2015, 04:32 PM
Here's a short interview about him killing Euronymous:
"Men willingly believe what they wish." - Julius Caesar, De Bello Gallico, Book III, Ch. 18