Well guys, physical attraction is not important. Nice and gentle speech well do to be admired by girls. it's the way you relate with them. called them tiger they will bite you but call them kitty they will loved you..
Is attracting an 8-10 Girl a realistic goal for the average man?
Quote: (06-15-2011 11:19 PM)Urban Renaissance Man Wrote:
[quote] (06-15-2011 06:56 PM)Oblivion77 Wrote:
(06-09-2011, 08:56 PM)Urban Renaissance Man Wrote: Ok, I have a question.... We all talk about attraction, and what it takes to pull certain women. I'm wondering, is there point where a guy has to be realistic as to what he can pull, or is it truly just a 'game over matter' situation, and anyone with enough game and time can pull an 8-10 scale girl? For example, As I've mentioned before on this forum, I think Hayden Pantttiere is my ideal of 9 1/2, darn near a 10. However, being that I'm 35, black, 5'6, live in the Bay Area instead of LA, Miami, NY, etc. and only in the $80,000 a year catagory, is someone of that level of beauty (Obviously I'm not talking about the real Hayden) totally unrealistic? Can an average looking, or even less than average looking man, middle class, but with good game and confidence, actually obtain his version of 'dream girl' or 9-10?
Hayden Panettiere a 9 1/2?
Mmm...I met her a couple of years ago when she came in with her mum for an audition...and frankly I wasnt impressed at all.
A 7- on my scale. But frankly the majority of the Hollywood actresses I met drop down the scale when met in person.
Anyway as the latins used to say "de gustibus non disputandum est" aka "one must not dispute about tastes".
That said, I think you can definitely get that 8-10 girl, of course you can! why? Because taking the case of Hayden Panettiere as an example, for other men she wont be a 8 at all while for you she is the dream girl ::razz
And by the way..... A 7?? Have you seen Hayden lately? She's a 6 even when they're trying to make her ugly! Lol
Quote: (06-16-2011 08:40 AM)Urban Renaissance Man Wrote:
Quote: (06-15-2011 11:19 PM)Urban Renaissance Man Wrote:
[quote] (06-15-2011 06:56 PM)Oblivion77 Wrote:
(06-09-2011, 08:56 PM)Urban Renaissance Man Wrote: Ok, I have a question.... We all talk about attraction, and what it takes to pull certain women. I'm wondering, is there point where a guy has to be realistic as to what he can pull, or is it truly just a 'game over matter' situation, and anyone with enough game and time can pull an 8-10 scale girl? For example, As I've mentioned before on this forum, I think Hayden Pantttiere is my ideal of 9 1/2, darn near a 10. However, being that I'm 35, black, 5'6, live in the Bay Area instead of LA, Miami, NY, etc. and only in the $80,000 a year catagory, is someone of that level of beauty (Obviously I'm not talking about the real Hayden) totally unrealistic? Can an average looking, or even less than average looking man, middle class, but with good game and confidence, actually obtain his version of 'dream girl' or 9-10?
Hayden Panettiere a 9 1/2?
Mmm...I met her a couple of years ago when she came in with her mum for an audition...and frankly I wasnt impressed at all.
A 7- on my scale. But frankly the majority of the Hollywood actresses I met drop down the scale when met in person.
Anyway as the latins used to say "de gustibus non disputandum est" aka "one must not dispute about tastes".
That said, I think you can definitely get that 8-10 girl, of course you can! why? Because taking the case of Hayden Panettiere as an example, for other men she wont be a 8 at all while for you she is the dream girl :
And by the way..... A 7?? Have you seen Hayden lately? She's a 6 even when they're trying to make her ugly! Lol
Hahah, I hear you, she is cute. Just not what thrills me. The blonde-petite-girl next door type doesnt really make it for me, not to the extent of getting a 9 or higher mark. That part of the scale I save for supermodel type chicks. But once again, one must not dispute about tastes.
You get Hayden, I'll settle for Kate Upton.
Oh you guys, always arguing over the number ratings of women, Hayden is a 4 by the way! Ha, no really I think she's probably like a 9 or something, but who the fuck cares?
Quote: (06-16-2011 01:19 PM)OGNorCal707 Wrote:
Oh you guys, always arguing over the number ratings of women, Hayden is a 4 by the way! Ha, no really I think she's probably like a 9 or something, but who the fuck cares?
I almost jumped thru the computer on that one! Lol. Yeah, it really doesn't matter. I was using her as an ideal to frame my original post. A fully dolled up Hayden would be considered pretty by 80 percent of Westernized men, mainly because she pretty much represents what the media has told us is pretty for the last 2000 years! At any rate, I would consider it a job well done for any average guy to pull someone that looks like her.
the prob with hayden is she has a chest of a 12 yr old boy lol not to mention no plump ass.
great face though!
great face though!
Barring nerd-guessing about Hayden, I do think that attracting an 8-10 girl is a lofty but achievable goal. Unlike women, our worth is not tied down just to our appearance, and accumulates instead of diminishing with time.
Sure, luck and starting position play a role, but men are blessed with an immense potential for change and self-improvement. Even if a man was average in looks, with dedicated work, he could still amass plenty of other positive factors during his life to compensate for it, and score with the girl he wanted. I'm also speaking from personal experience here.
Sure, luck and starting position play a role, but men are blessed with an immense potential for change and self-improvement. Even if a man was average in looks, with dedicated work, he could still amass plenty of other positive factors during his life to compensate for it, and score with the girl he wanted. I'm also speaking from personal experience here.
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Quote: (06-16-2011 02:42 PM)Dash Global Wrote:
the prob with hayden is she has a chest of a 12 yr old boy lol not to mention no plump ass.
great face though!
I see I have to break out some photo's! I mean, she isn't busting out of the seems, but I wouldn't exactly call her a 12 year old boy. I guess maybe it's just because I've been with so many 'thick' women, that it's just nice to be with a girl who Is actually in really good shape! The face is damn near angelic!
Quote: (06-16-2011 01:19 PM)OGNorCal707 Wrote:
Oh you guys, always arguing over the number ratings of women, Hayden is a 4 by the way! Ha, no really I think she's probably like a 9 or something, but who the fuck cares?
Seriously. About 99% of the men on this planet would leap at the chance to bang her. The other 1% are homosexual.
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Hahah, I hear you, she is cute. Just not what thrills me. The blonde-petite-girl next door type doesnt really make it for me, not to the extent of getting a 9 or higher mark. That part of the scale I save for supermodel type chicks. But once again, one must not dispute about tastes.
You get Hayden, I'll settle for Kate Upton.
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Don't get me wrong, Kate Upton is very sexy and I would feel like I was blessed by Venus if I ever dated anyone who looked like her, but to be honest she has a kind of mousy look to me. She's arguably sexier than Hayden, but not prettier.
Hahah, I hear you, she is cute. Just not what thrills me. The blonde-petite-girl next door type doesnt really make it for me, not to the extent of getting a 9 or higher mark. That part of the scale I save for supermodel type chicks. But once again, one must not dispute about tastes.
You get Hayden, I'll settle for Kate Upton.
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Don't get me wrong, Kate Upton is very sexy and I would feel like I was blessed by Venus if I ever dated anyone who looked like her, but to be honest she has a kind of mousy look to me. She's arguably sexier than Hayden, but not prettier.
Hayden looks pretty choice to me. Looks like she's packing some bootie back there, too.
You can find girls like her and probably have a reasonable chance of getting with them, especially if you maximize your own potential.
The kind of men her friends date makes a huge issue here, as well. If her friends are equally hot, and are with hot guys, she's going to be FAR less likely to date an average guy. Peer pressure is huge. If her friends are a "variety pack" of women, with wildly different men, she won't have that same preoccupation with "only a hot guy".
The competition will still be there. Just at this thread. Tons of guys wanting 9-10s, even those who "shouldn't" be after them. That just goes to show you how many more men are going to be out there doing their do to get in.
Kate Upton chick pretty nice, too. Body is crazy.
You can find girls like her and probably have a reasonable chance of getting with them, especially if you maximize your own potential.
The kind of men her friends date makes a huge issue here, as well. If her friends are equally hot, and are with hot guys, she's going to be FAR less likely to date an average guy. Peer pressure is huge. If her friends are a "variety pack" of women, with wildly different men, she won't have that same preoccupation with "only a hot guy".
The competition will still be there. Just at this thread. Tons of guys wanting 9-10s, even those who "shouldn't" be after them. That just goes to show you how many more men are going to be out there doing their do to get in.
Kate Upton chick pretty nice, too. Body is crazy.
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