Posts: 581
Threads: 0
Joined: Sep 2014
Reputation:
9
Definitively summing up "Game" Concepts
08-05-2015, 08:09 AM
Okay, I continually hear people on here talk about how learning game has changed their sex life like it's some kind of magic pill. I don't share this same view yet even though I've been reading this forum religiously for quite some time now. Mainly because it's incredibly difficult to absorb hundreds of pages of threads and put it all together- information overload if you will. So coming from a teaching background where we try to teach concepts in the simplest way possible I thought it would be useful to brainstorm key concepts of Game in dot point form, whether it be theoretical or practical knowledge. If everyone here contributes, I'm confident we can create a comprehensive, simplified list of key knowledge and understandings in game.
Remember- sum up the ideas in short dot points and any knowledge you can drop, no matter how small, is of assistannce.
For example...
- Women like a guy who takes charge. Never ask. Just do.
Posts: 4,464
Threads: 0
Joined: Jul 2014
Definitively summing up "Game" Concepts
08-05-2015, 08:29 AM
Winning.
That's it. That's why they call it a 'game'. It's something to be won.
In the realm of women and sex, that's just: become the most attractive man you can be, approach many attractive women, and treat the courtship process (meet to sex) as something to be honed.
The intricacies of demonstrating your attractiveness, where and when to approach women, and the many aspects of successful courtship, you can't expect to be laid out in universally accepted 'commandments'. Best just to repeat the "do, analyze, consult data, do again" cycle. Whenever you fail, analyze where it went wrong, consult the data (e.g. search this forum) on that issue for advice, learn a lesson, then try again. What you're asking for is a 'summary of RVF', which isn't feasible.
Edit: one of the reasons it can't be universal is that there are significant cultural differences. What's most attractive in Australia isn't the same as what's most attractive in Russia. What works for courtship in Brazil might not work in Korea. The only real universality is: you must be attractive, you must talk to strange girls, you must move the interaction towards sex. If you're doing that you'll always figure out the details on the way.
Posts: 7,818
Threads: 0
Joined: Oct 2010
Reputation:
343
Definitively summing up "Game" Concepts
08-05-2015, 08:35 AM
Asking us to write you a book is the wrong way to go about learning game, especially for a denialist such as yourself.
You'd be better served by reading Bang/Day Bang and one of the bang guides, and then going out and trying this stuff yourself.
WIA
Posts: 581
Threads: 0
Joined: Sep 2014
Reputation:
9
Definitively summing up "Game" Concepts
08-05-2015, 08:44 AM
I'm no game denialist. I just acknowledge that I haven't been able to put it all together into a final product yet. That's not to say I don't have any success with women because I was having moderate success before even finding this forum. I know game works because I've seen it first-hand.
Posts: 1,767
Threads: 0
Joined: Oct 2013
Reputation:
32
Definitively summing up "Game" Concepts
08-05-2015, 09:08 AM
Of course you can read and digest a bunch of theories, but coming from a education background you are aware some things are only made practical through application
Once you have witnessed it with your own two eyes, it becomes real
Like many things in life, experience is the best teacher because this is a participation sport
MDP
Posts: 593
Threads: 0
Joined: Jan 2015
Reputation:
26
Definitively summing up "Game" Concepts
08-05-2015, 07:09 PM
Look, most men don't even fuck ten girls in their entire lifetime. Most men will never fuck an 8, and probably not a 7 unless they happen to get lucky at a drunken party in college. Is it because most men don't want to have a rotation of hot young chicks at their disposal? No, it's because seducing women is really hard. Game is hard, and it doesn't come down to mastering a short recipe in power point form (the closest you get is probably Heartiste's Sixteen Commandments). Besides, if you have been reading this forum carefully for a year you are no doubt familiar with all the basic concepts already. You know about approaching, rapport, escalating, comfort, and closing. You have an understanding of the importance of logistics, screening, and storytelling, and you are familiar with shit-testing, LMR, and agree-and-amplify. Assuming you are already applying these concepts in real-world situations, the next step is probably starting to think about how to balance these concepts against each other. What makes game complicated is that you have to achieve multiple, contradictory aims simultaneously: Sexualizing an interaction while building comfort. Maintaining an air of mystery and aloofness while generating an emotionally engaging conversation. Making a girl feel special yet also instill in her a fear that you may walk out at any moment. Pushing an interaction as far as it can go yet be ready to bail and find a new target. Treating a girl like a piece of meat without making her feel like a slut. Having an abundance mentality while acknowledging that most girls you want to fuck will never fuck you. Like I said, it's hard.
Going beyond these concepts, you also have to consider the adjustments to game that need to take place depending on location and cultural factors. In many cases the fastest way to improve your results is simply to go somewhere else where your characteristics or strengths make you more desirable to women in general or at least within a niche or subculture.
Posts: 828
Threads: 0
Joined: Aug 2013
Reputation:
115
Definitively summing up "Game" Concepts
08-06-2015, 05:01 AM
I'll bite...
game > looks > money
Every man has some elements of all 3, but game is most important. Even with minimal money & looks, a guy with strong game is going to get laid.
Conversely, a man with money & or looks will have high SMV, but if he doesn't approach, overcome LMR, manage his chick properly post bang, etc. he's going to be getting played, end up settling for a sub par woman, or stay with one who does not respect him.
Let's go a little deeper;
Game
What it is; approaching, attracting, logistics, closing
Can you improve it; yes
Looks
What is it; masculine presence (testosterone), aesthetics, style
What it gets you; reception, attraction, SMV
Can you improve it; yes
Money
What is it; power & freedom
What it gets you; attraction
Can you improve it; yes
*Motivation
Honorable mention for motivation; a mandatory pre-requirement before all. Motivation can be improved by getting plenty of sleep, increasing testosterone level, and quitting porn.
Posts: 109
Threads: 0
Joined: May 2014
Reputation:
1
Definitively summing up "Game" Concepts
08-06-2015, 05:25 AM
You just have to start. Studying/reading about game is one thing. But once you start to use 'techniques' in real life, you just start to realise how much work it actually is.
Imo, the most important thing is, to become the best man you can be.
All the theory is worthless, if you're not able to act.
Posts: 399
Threads: 0
Joined: Jan 2015
Reputation:
21
Definitively summing up "Game" Concepts
08-06-2015, 06:50 AM
I've been learning game for about a year. I've gotten a lot better. The 4 things that have helped me the most are:
1. Approaching, approaching, approaching. Even when I'm cold, if I keep approaching it leads to the end of the cold streak.
2. Get really good at sex. I personally watch
how to videos for technique. My passion and masculinity just come naturally. When women
love you in bed and say things like, "From now on you own my pussy." it gives you amazing confidence that transfers to other parts of game.
3. Learn how to escalate the interaction towards sex. Rooshe's book is great for this.
4.Learn how to tell when a girl is intersted. Most of this comes from approaching a lot, but there's also YouTube videos on this.
Posts: 928
Threads: 0
Joined: Mar 2014
Reputation:
22
Definitively summing up "Game" Concepts
08-06-2015, 06:22 PM
For what it's worth, the writers for the movie The Tao of Steve tried to summarize game as three principles. I'm sure most here would say that this way oversimplifies game, but here it is:
1. Eliminate sexual desire (i.e. don't project any thirst or neediness around women)
2. Be a hero in her presence (i.e. display high, masculine value)
3. Withdraw (i.e. make her chase you)
Posts: 3,352
Threads: 0
Joined: Jan 2012
Reputation:
78
Definitively summing up "Game" Concepts
08-06-2015, 07:51 PM
"If anything's gonna happen, it's gonna happen out there!- Captain Ron
Posts: 2,430
Threads: 0
Joined: Nov 2012
Reputation:
65
Definitively summing up "Game" Concepts
08-07-2015, 12:30 PM
I've seen tons of jacked guys at the club that struggle to meet a single girl. Sometimes they will get lucky with the odd time a 6 approaches them.
I've seen plenty of good looking dudes pass up great chances. Talk about squandering potential.
You hear about guys with money struggling. At some point game is necessary, otherwise you will be played for a fool by a woman older than you who confuses you about her actual value.
A guy with game, but none of the other things, can actually succeed where the others won't.
That's why a good looking guy or a guy that's in good shape, dresses well, is self-reliant, AND has game; is absolutely lethal.
I've been fortunate to see this combination a few times, notably some forum members I have met. It's helping me establish the direction that I want to follow.
Posts: 58
Threads: 0
Joined: May 2015
Definitively summing up "Game" Concepts
08-07-2015, 02:07 PM
This Patrice O'Neal playlist sums up a lot of game concepts pretty well.