[captndonk]

She comes over again in 10 hours. We made a stupid bet for a back massage. I intend to lose it, so that I can give her the massage.

[PapayaTapper]

(08-10-2015 02:55 AM)captndonk Wrote:  

She comes over again in 10 hours. We made a stupid bet for a back massage. I intend to lose it, so that I can give her the massage.

That's PERFECT Good job. Just remember to take control and let her know SHE isn't going to fuck this up because she's inexperienced. She absolutely wants this to happen and is WAY more nervous than you...guaranteed. Just make your move, go for the kiss. then say

"Relax, it's ok. I'm going to go slow and I will tell you exactly what to do" ...then go slow but steadily forward...it's simple. Good luck!

[captndonk]

OMG, I can't even write down what happened. I am just an idiot and she has less then absolutely no experience.
It's so disappointing.
I went in with the wrong mindest, I expected everything to go well but it didn't.
I lost the bet and gave her the massage. It took her about 5 minutes to undress her upper body because she had to protect her from my views with the blanket. After the massage she did the same und did not only put on her bra but her top too. (wtf)

Next we were lying in my bed and talked, meanwhile I fondled her while she was following my hands with hers and removing me immediately when I was going near her pussy or her breasts or her butt. After some time she was okay with me touching her breast from outside (lol , I am not 12years old)

We talked a lot she asked me a lot of questions and I did the same. She started asking some lame questions about my family, I asked her sexual stuff only.

Now I know, not only is she a virgin but she also never had her first kiss and never a boyfriend. She doesn't drink because one time she drunk way to much and spit all over the place ruining her friends birthday. (lol, I thought she crashed a car)

She also never smoked weed or a cigarette. And she has never seen porn. My question on masturbation wasn't answered.

Her four girlfriends (all claim to be virgins too, hey but one already kissed a guy and is therefore the pack leader) advise her.

She then asked a lot about my experience but I didn't answer most of these questions. I simply had no idea how she would react if had told her, that my notch count is 14.
I only told her that I banged my last girlfriend on the second date.

One question was reallly funny and shows her lack of knowledge the best. I told her that I go clubbing from time to time and she asked me how many girls I kiss on average when I am out. I must have looked a bit confused because she then followed up by asking wheter I go from one girl to another and kiss them all.

As she said that she thinks she is shy I told her that she is plain wrong.

Fortunately I had a makeout with another girl on Saturday. Next time I need to be better prepared to escalate hard. This was really a blowback regarding my mindset.

[PapayaTapper]

(08-10-2015 06:00 PM)captndonk Wrote:  

Next time I need to be better prepared to escalate hard.

You think?
I'm not sure why you ask for advice from the forum members if you aren't going to follow it...but it SEEMS like it's finally getting through to you....maybe? I think you're doing way too much talking

You did good with her questions/shit tests.

DONT LET HER AVOID YOUR ANSWERING QUESTIONS THOUGH Youre relinquishing the power position when you do that.

If you're patient enough and keep escalating you'll get the bang...just remember; Someone is going to pop that cherry

[Dalaran1991]

(08-10-2015 06:00 PM)captndonk Wrote:  

Now I know, not only is she a virgin but she also never had her first kiss and never a boyfriend. She doesn't drink because one time she drunk way to much and spit all over the place ruining her friends birthday. (lol, I thought she crashed a car)

She also never smoked weed or a cigarette. And she has never seen porn. My question on masturbation wasn't answered.

Her four girlfriends (all claim to be virgins too, hey but one already kissed a guy and is therefore the pack leader) advise her.

Given that you might not be the best player out there, I STRONGLY advise against trying to bang yellow light girls. That goes double, scratch that, triple if she is a virgin. Way too much fuckin effort for so little effort.

Your girl sounds a lot like my main and the only reason I stick around after 3rd date without a kiss is because she is amazingly fucking hot and she was so into me, I knew that it was just a matter of time until I banged. Even then at the beginning when I saw the yellow lights I quit, but she reached out to me.

It requires a ton of calibration and usually just results in wasting time. I take it from WIA, focus your time on yes girls and keep the hottest maybe girls in the backburner.

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She then asked a lot about my experience but I didn't answer most of these questions. I simply had no idea how she would react if had told her, that my notch count is 14.
I only told her that I banged my last girlfriend on the second date.

Usually guys got hit with a "virgin" and thinks that they should tone their player vibe down. That does not mean answering her questions directly.

You have zero to win in this situation. If you had sex before, she will be scared. If you hadn't she will be worried. Plus you have to understand why she is asking it: she is nervous and her hamster is on overdrive.

Standard game here is to agree and amplify "I never slept with a woman in my life, except my mom" in a very joking tone or whatever. Make her laugh, make her comfortable.

She doesnt even sound that much fun to be honest. Your choice to pursue her.

[rudebwoy]

She is a virgin and very nervous.
You need to re-assure her not brag about how many girls you have banged and how you banged the last girl on the second date. That will only put more pressure on her, I repeat she is a virgin. She has never been close to a dick before.
Kiss her for now and get comfortable with that, you may not see the hair between her legs for some time. It is ok, because you are going where no man has gone before.
You have time, she is curious and wants it. She comes to your place because she wants a connection.
Remember a girl is in your den, in your bedroom.
Many dudes would be glad to be in your position. Girls a lot younger than her are well experienced where I live, so I have heard.
Chill bro!
Relax

[captndonk]

Next appointment is today. I told her to bring some fruit salad. If she does I will at least enjoy this.

[amusedmastery]

You should try to interest her in a game of "just the tip" to get her used to this whole thing. Haha

It's been a few years since I was with a virgin, but i would say by this point, she's indicating high interest in proceeding with this. She's practically waving a sign that says she wants you as her first. Look at her actions. She keeps coming back, furthering each encounter (painfully slow though dude, speed this up) and just needs a push over that edge with some sexual energy. If it were me, I'd go long slow makeout while carefully undressing her over a 30 minute period. Gotta warm these types up! If you play this right, she won't move your hands away, but you have to move them slowly over her. Too aggressive and she'll shut down, too timid and she doesn't know wtf to do. If she hesitates, use push pull technique and just continue with makeout until she succumbs. Remember, it's like dealing with a scared fawn at this point.

Good luck. I didn't realize she was a virgin in my earlier posts.

[PapayaTapper]

(08-12-2015 12:24 PM)captndonk Wrote:  

Next appointment is today. I told her to bring some fruit salad. If she does I will at least enjoy this.

She keeps coming back so keep on escalating...she's obviously into you and like RudeBoy said above chosen you to be her first. Like I said before no need to talk too much..As soon as you get to making out with her say "Relax, I'm going to show you exactly what you need to do"...then just plow ahead...no more talking

[OregonToSoCal]

Well, do I dare ask how it went this time?

[captndonk]

Yeah, she came but only brought a banana with her. I told her that I have a bigger one but she didn't find it funny.
Then we watched some youtube videos, (roosh in this fat shaming talkshow^^). I grabbed her ass for fun and she always fought back. Later I stripped down to my boxershorts and lied on my bed drinking a wheat beer. I did not try to escalate much. I simply wasn't in the mood.

[OregonToSoCal]

(08-13-2015 12:15 PM)captndonk Wrote:  

I did not try to escalate much. I simply wasn't in the mood.

[PapayaTapper]

(08-13-2015 12:15 PM)captndonk Wrote:  

Yeah, she came but only brought a banana with her. I told her that I have a bigger one but she didn't find it funny.
Then we watched some youtube videos, (roosh in this fat shaming talkshow^^). I grabbed her ass for fun and she always fought back. Later I stripped down to my boxershorts and lied on my bed drinking a wheat beer. I did not try to escalate much. I simply wasn't in the mood.

[Just Approach]

I hate when people ask for advice and then turn around and do the exact opposite.

That is exactly what the OP is doing so this thread needs to just end already because it's obviously going no where and the OP gets a thrill leading us on.

[amusedmastery]

I'm out.

[BetaNoMore]

seems like a troll.

[captndonk]

I had a bad day yesterday. At first my pull from the club refused to have sex (see the other thread) and later I accidently met my last oneitis.
I simply wasn't in the mood to get more rejections.

Meanwhile I set up a new date with a different girl for Sunday and went out today, resulting in a make-out. (ok her face was a bit ugly but her legs were pretty.)

[PapayaTapper]

(08-13-2015 07:24 PM)captndonk Wrote:  

I had a bad day yesterday. At first my pull from the club refused to have sex (see the other thread) and later I accidently met my last oneitis.
I simply wasn't in the mood to get more rejections.

Meanwhile I set up a new date with a different girl for Sunday and went out today, resulting in a make-out. (ok her face was a bit ugly but her legs were pretty.)

I have a plan:



Years ago a girl I banged told me a story about running into her ex BF and one of his buddies at a bar about a year after he dumped her. They talked for a bit and then she left. She was outside in her car and about to leave when her ex walked up and tapped on her window. She rolled the window down and said something like this: (This was according to her a true story) I am paraphrasing

Ex "Hey I know we arent together anymore but you know I always loved your tits do you think I can just touch them one more time?" (She did have perfect tits and could almost orgasm from having her nipples payed with a certain way)

Her "What? no fuck off"

Ex "Why not? you used to love it"

Her "No"

Ex "Please"

So this went back and forth for a couple minutes and she told me she finally said yes because she was a little drunk and because she was still into the guy. So she opened her shirt. He reaches in the window and starts to fondle her tits while she'sitting in her car in a parking lot and says:

Ex "Just close your eyes, lay back and relax"

So she does and his titty play goes on for a bit and she's got her eyes closed and getting into it. This goes on for like 3-4 minutes when she just happens to open her eyes and looks up to see her ex's buddy is the one playing with her tits. They had tag teamed and switched out while she had her eyes closed...surprise!



She laughed about it when she told me the story

So this leads me to my plan. Next time virgin girl comes over one of your buddies from the forum will be hiding in the closet. When you and she get into bed you just turn off the light so that it's good and dark in there then slip out of bed like you're going to the bathroom, tag in your buddy, and let him get in bed to get this over with. I'll errr....he'll make sure he lays some seriously good pipe so that she will come back for more and you'll get no resistance. After all isn't that what friends are for?

[rudebwoy]

When in doubt pull It out.

Not sure what game you are trying to play.
Why would you tell her to bring fruit?
Why mention Roosh or show a video? I would love to see her reaction.

I think you need to talk less and listen more.
What does she want?

[PapayaTapper]

(08-13-2015 08:30 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

When in doubt pull It out.

Not sure what game you are trying to play.
Why would you tell her to bring fruit?
Why mention Roosh or show a video? I would love to see her reaction.

I think you need to talk less and listen more.
What does she want?

All joking aside

I agree with the talking less but I dont think there's anything to listen to. She sounds like a very shy awkward girl.It sounds like she's not saying or doing much of anything. Is that right captndonk? That's the part I don't understand. Why does she keep coming over? What does she want? If it isn't to get deflowered then what? Does she want you tell her you love her first?

She has a romantic fantasy in her mind of how this plays out (they all do) you just need to make it happen

[Julio]

(08-12-2015 12:24 PM)captndonk Wrote:  

I told her to bring some fruit salad. If she does I will at least enjoy this.

captndonk Wrote:

she came but only brought a banana with her

[Just Approach]

(08-13-2015 08:25 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  

Ex "Just close your eyes, lay back and relax"

So she does and his titty play goes on for a bit and she's got her eyes closed and getting into it. This goes on for like 3-4 minutes when she just happens to open her eyes and looks up to see her ex's buddy is the one playing with her tits. They had tag teamed and switched out while she had her eyes closed...surprise!

I can't believe she fell for that.

[ksbms]

(08-13-2015 12:15 PM)captndonk Wrote:  

Yeah, she came but only brought a banana with her. I told her that I have a bigger one

I wonder what would dr Freud said about a girl bringing with her a phallic object like this...

Did you tell her you had a bigger banana in your kitchen or a bigger phallus in your trousers?

[Sketness]

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Later I stripped down to my boxershorts and lied on my bed drinking a wheat beer.

the fact that you drink wheat beer makes me happy you didnt reproduce on the 3rd date.......get a IPA or some hard liquor son ..... and dont take your dam pants off until the girl is naked you dummy

[Ray Carlton]

I am curious, how did the whole thing play out in the end?

I think you got a lot of good advice here. Even when it was too late for this girl, you can still benefit from this thread for the next girl.

See it as a learning experience.