[Noir]

Question-

Can I set up recording from my webcam on my laptop? via Skype or anything else?

[HungJohnson69]

(07-28-2015 10:51 PM)mpr Wrote:  

The Mobius definitely has some things going for it. Ease of use, concealability, and easy mobility. My concern would be about how well it performs under low light conditions. I usually try to seal the deal after dark, and I've found that a dimly lit room gives me the best results. If it can take decent quality video under low light conditions then it could be a very useful camera though.

Low light performance is OK, but not spectacular. If you want a "clear" image in extremely low light (or dark) then infrared capability is probably required.

On the other hand, isn't audio more important anyways...? And who wants to have sex in total darkness? (I don't...)

[storm]

(07-29-2015 11:27 AM)HungJohnson69 Wrote:  

(07-28-2015 10:51 PM)mpr Wrote:  

The Mobius definitely has some things going for it. Ease of use, concealability, and easy mobility. My concern would be about how well it performs under low light conditions. I usually try to seal the deal after dark, and I've found that a dimly lit room gives me the best results. If it can take decent quality video under low light conditions then it could be a very useful camera though.

Low light performance is OK, but not spectacular. If you want a "clear" image in extremely low light (or dark) then infrared capability is probably required.

On the other hand, isn't audio more important anyways...? And who wants to have sex in total darkness? (I don't...)

Liked for the username. Are you the Finnish player I met in warsaw who had gotten beat up by poles for a week straight? Last December?

Also, you all can try this guide:

[Gorgiass]

If you have signage at your entryway saying something to the effect of "This property is under video surveillance", maybe next to an ADT sign, you are in a gray area recording sex in a common area like a living room, but likely wouldn't need explicit consent - http://www.randolphwolf.com/blog/crimina...ecordings/

Quote:

A private place is one where a person may reasonably expect to be safe from unauthorized surveillance. Generally speaking, if a defendant intruded into someone’s seclusion in a place they expect privacy (e.g., a bathroom or their bedroom) this element will be met.

The law provides the “most heightened” protection to the privacy interests of individuals in their home. Thus, filming an individual in their home is a risky venture. The fact that the recording took place in a common area, such as a living room, might negate any reasonable expectation of privacy, however. With respect to the videotape of an individual in a motor vehicle, on the other hand, a court would most likely find that the individual did not have a reasonable expectation of privacy, so long as the vehicle was not located in a secluded location that was not in public view when the recording took place

Once you take it into the bedroom you are in a whole other ballpark, risks of false rape or not. For one story of the potential consequences see here - http://www.forbes.com/sites/daniellecitr...s-a-crime/

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Piznarski was convicted under New York’s unlawful surveillance statute called Stephanie’s Law, which makes it illegal to use a device to secretly record or broadcast a person undressing or having sex when that person has a reasonable expectation of privacy. He was sentenced to one to three years for taping himself having sex with Jane Doe #1 and an additional year for recording himself with Jane Doe #2.

If you're recording audio you will also need to know whether your state is a one or two party consent area when it comes to wiretapping law.

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Twelve states require the consent of all parties to a conversation to record it. These laws are referred to as “all-party consent” statutes. Those jurisdictions include: California, Connecticut, Florida, Illinois, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Montana, Nevada, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania, and Washington. Thus, if the person being recorded did not consent, the recording would violate the laws of those twelve states.

If those are laws you are comfortable abiding by, or if facing the consequences of breaking them is something you're prepared to do, I wrote this post recently. I cannot comment further with firsthand knowledge of anything involved.

(07-19-2015 11:02 AM)Gorgiass Wrote:  

There is a relatively new camera out, the Phlylink PLC. From what I hear it packs some serious bang for the buck although it is better suited for more permanent security installations. Comes with some half baked covers for standard wall mount installation but with a little brainstorming I'm sure most members here can do much better. Remote control via their app or desktop, up to 128GB mcro SD, and motion activated recording option. The camera has a small tapered nose and needs only a 1/8" hole for the lens to view a room so the sky is the limit for concealment. If one were inclined to use for any legal surveillance purposes while they were actually home, it is possible to pair it with a remotely activated outlet of the radio or wifi variety which could be turned on while mixing a drink in the other room, and a small mic with rca extension and power supply. I'm told it mounts well with a quality adhesive putty. Might take some work and basic wiring knowledge unless you want the base unit in a room somewhere it might be visible, but it is the ultimate in home surveillance. Like any cutting edge tech product the durability is unknown, which is why it might be better suited for 'occasional' use.

(07-29-2015 05:58 PM)storm Wrote:  

Also, you all can try this guide:

What came first, that guide, or "Wolf of Wall St"?

[HungJohnson69]

(07-29-2015 05:58 PM)storm Wrote:  

Liked for the username. Are you the Finnish player I met in warsaw who had gotten beat up by poles for a week straight? Last December?

No, (un-)fortunately I'm not, but I have been in Warsaw many years ago...

[Isaac Jordan]

(07-29-2015 05:07 AM)Noir Wrote:  

Question-

Can I set up recording from my webcam on my laptop? via Skype or anything else?

I too would be interested in learning more about this. My computer sits on my desk directly opposite my bed (I have it plugged into my TV and speaker system).

Ideally I'd have everything set up beforehand, so when I bring her into the bedroom, as I turn on the music, I can also subtly start recording using the computer's built-in webcam, without pop ups or noise or anything alerting her to the fact that I just started recording.

[The Beast1]

Video taping your sexual encounters does nothing but confirm to prosecutors that the sex actually happened.

You will need video evidence of the girl saying, "Omg! I love banging you!" for it to mean anything.

OP subtle troll?

[GlobalMan]

(07-28-2015 09:22 PM)Barbarian_Brad Wrote:  

(07-28-2015 11:02 AM)heavy Wrote:  

Is the second part of this statement facetious:
"evidence that all sexual encounters had full enthusiastic affirmative consent - with my partners knowledge they were being filmed, of course"

No. Enthusiastic consent is very important. I would never film someone without it. False rape accusations never happen, so there is no reason to hide a camera in your bedroom anyway. Stay in school. Eat your green vegetables.

Or at least an ass.

[PapayaTapper]

(07-29-2015 06:36 PM)Gorgiass Wrote:  

Quote:

A private place is one where a person may reasonably expect to be safe from unauthorized surveillance. Generally speaking, if a defendant intruded into someone’s seclusion in a place they expect privacy (e.g., a bathroom or their bedroom) this element will be met.

The law provides the “most heightened” protection to the privacy interests of individuals in their home. Thus, filming an individual in their home is a risky venture. The fact that the recording took place in a common area, such as a living room, might negate any reasonable expectation of privacy, however. With respect to the videotape of an individual in a motor vehicle, on the other hand, a court would most likely find that the individual did not have a reasonable expectation of privacy, so long as the vehicle was not located in a secluded location that was not in public view when the recording took place

Im certain that the fact that he "threatened" to post the video had as much or more to do with the sentence than did the actual recording. He was a douchebag or at least a moron trying to effect some type of cyber threat on the girl (article doesn't tell the whole story)

If, hypothetically, let's say he never told anyone or otherwise shared the existence of the video She later levels some false rape charge against him and the video did show "enthusiastic consent" on her part, that he only disclosed to aid in his defense I bet the outcome would have been different.

Worst case I'd rather be facing "illegal surveillance" charges than rape charges...but that's just me

[PapayaTapper]

(08-18-2015 02:35 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  

(07-29-2015 06:36 PM)Gorgiass Wrote:  

Quote:

A private place is one where a person may reasonably expect to be safe from unauthorized surveillance. Generally speaking, if a defendant intruded into someone’s seclusion in a place they expect privacy (e.g., a bathroom or their bedroom) this element will be met.

The law provides the “most heightened” protection to the privacy interests of individuals in their home. Thus, filming an individual in their home is a risky venture. The fact that the recording took place in a common area, such as a living room, might negate any reasonable expectation of privacy, however. With respect to the videotape of an individual in a motor vehicle, on the other hand, a court would most likely find that the individual did not have a reasonable expectation of privacy, so long as the vehicle was not located in a secluded location that was not in public view when the recording took place

Im certain that the fact that he "threatened" to post the video had as much or more to do with the sentence than did the actual recording. He was a douchebag or at least a moron trying to effect some type of cyber threat on the girl (article doesn't tell the whole story)

If, hypothetically, let's say he never told anyone or otherwise shared the existence of the video She later levels some false rape charge against him and the video did show "enthusiastic consent" on her part, that he only disclosed to aid in his defense I bet the outcome would have been different.

Worst case I'd rather be facing "illegal surveillance" charges than rape charges...but that's just me

BTW any chicks out there reading this: You ALWAYS get recorded in my bedroom

[Natural Born Gyalist]

Funny how I have never been accused of raping a girl I actually had sex with. The one time it did happen she just told people in a small outer social circle of mine and nobody, male or female, believed her for a second. Perform well and dont get falsely accused. Never had a woman have numerous, gushing, wet orgasms then accuse me of rape afterwards.

[Sam Malone]

^^ RE: Recording

Without that recording, it's your word against hers. (I believe) 40-something states are one-party recording states, the rest are all-party recording states.

Regardless, even if I was in an 'all party' state, I'd rather be staring down the recording charge, instead of a false rape or DV charge.

[yellowfever]

It's worth doing some research before buying a camera. Some have big bright lights to indicate when they're recording, but have hidden settings to disable them. Then you can just have your webcam in plain sight and it looks like it's off.

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[Leonard D Neubache]

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[ChrisGaines]

OP = Dennis Reynolds

[Kwisatz]

Don't overcomplicate it. You can do something as simple as:

A) Stuff a camera into a toy or stuffed animal and stream the video to your phone. Like this:

B) Download [/video]a [/video]Securith=y Monitor or Baby Monitor app on to an ol[/video]d cell phone and you wont even have to hide it, just leave it on the dresser with the camera facing the bed. Like These: http://www.zdnet.com/article/turn-tour-o...ty-camera/

[Leonard D Neubache]

The last place I'm going to put a sex-camera is in a stuffed toy.

You bring a potential notch home. Question one. "Why does he have a stuffed toy in his bedroom/loungeroom/kitchen/bathroom?"

Issue two. What are women inclined to pick up and examine when they walk into a room [i]mostly[/i ]full of guy stuff?

If you've got to do this then your best bet is to make a false smoke alarm. That way you can have the little red light to indicate it's recording but nobody is going to pay attention to it. It also allows you to duplicate the same setup for every room rather than having to come up with something new each time.

Just don't be an ass and keep glancing at it or you might tip them off.

[Sam Malone]

(05-18-2017 07:42 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

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If you've got to do this then your best bet is to make a false smoke alarm. That way you can have the little red light to indicate it's recording but nobody is going to pay attention to it. It also allows you to duplicate the same setup for every room rather than having to come up with something new each time.

Just don't be an ass and keep glancing at it or you might tip them off.

The smoke alarm cameras are available online, as well as clock cameras, both wall and nightstand.



If you wanna get down, dirty, and creative, Harbor Freight has a two camera system that not only has it's own monitor, but comes with a cord that can be run to a VCR or DVR system.


The cameras are small enough to be mounted and hidden in a myriad of different places, especially if you remove the mounting bracket.

I actually looked into and purchased this particular system before getting the 8 camera DVR system for my home. The quality of the cameras was pretty good, it just didn't suit my needs, I needed it to monitor my home/property.

The key is to place the camera(s) somewhere that doesn't draw attention.

- I've got a ceramic skull on my dresser that (if I could get the camera into the skull) would be perfect. I'd mount the camera so the lens looks through the eye.
- Do you have a sound bar above or below your TV ? If there's some empty space in the sound bar's cabinet, a small hole with the camera mounted inside the bar wouldn't draw any attention.
- Is there a return vent in the ceiling or high up on the wall ? A camera can be mounted there.
- A lamp with a large base could make a good spot for mounting a camera.
- Depending on the layout of your place, you could modify one of these:


The bottom line is if you're going to make your own hidden camera, you need to get creative.

[Drazen]

Canary cam.

https://canary.is/

Its for home security. Could probably be grounds for plausible deniability since you are using it as a way to monitor your belongings. On the free plan it saves video clips when triggered for 36 hours on the cloud then deletes. I'm not saying you should use it for these things, but it can be and you have a built in excuse.

[xmlenigma]

Just saw this and I am guessing Tyson wishes he had a camera or something..

https://youtu.be/qlRawW--T24?t=1449

[alexalex77]

Personally, I have plenty of videos of me and my girlfriend on my phone. Once I lost phone at a movie place which had a few pics and videos. After that we decided to go for a hidden camera to record our bedroom activities.

I did my own research and found this info on [spam link removed]. We went for a camera that looks like an alarm clock.

[Jetset]

Since there's some back-and-forth about this, I'll point out that in many American states, creating video showing sex acts or nudity in a private place without consent, even it's a guest stripping down in your own bedroom, is still unlawful surveillance.

So, supposing you're the subject of a false rape accusation, you've now got exculpatory evidence that will never be shown to the jury since it was gathered illegally but that is also evidence of a separate felony and might be construed as revenge porn if you try to show it to the media to try to save your reputation.

You're probably better off with a properly documented audio recording of her screaming her consent. If your security system also captures people entering/leaving your home to provide a record of who was screaming it, all the better.

[DJ-Matt]

The point of having video evidence is so you can show it to the DA and he'll drop the case because she lied. If you're lucky she'll get charges for lying.

[PapayaTapper]

(11-15-2017 09:36 AM)Jetset Wrote:  

Since there's some back-and-forth about this, I'll point out that in many American states, creating video showing sex acts or nudity in a private place without consent, even it's a guest stripping down in your own bedroom, is still unlawful surveillance.

So, supposing you're the subject of a false rape accusation, you've now got exculpatory evidence that will never be shown to the jury since it was gathered illegally but that is also evidence of a separate felony and might be construed as revenge porn if you try to show it to the media to try to save your reputation.

You're probably better off with a properly documented audio recording of her screaming her consent. If your security system also captures people entering/leaving your home to provide a record of who was screaming it, all the better.

Keep a framed copy of this in view of the camera. Most girls wont even ask in the heat of the moment but the ones that do think it is a joke or novelty.




If the tape is truly exculpatory most DA's arent going to want to prosecute charges hoping to get the tape excluded at trial

As long your not disseminating the recordings afterwards the likelihood of you getting charged with privacy violations are really low to nil. In any event Id take a "tortious intrusion" charge over sexual assault or rape charge any day.