[XII]

It's common knowledge that the flake rate for internet girls is astronomical. I don't take it personally, it's just the way things are. I don't bitch flakes out, I don't resent them, and it doesn't affect me that they'ved changed their minds--more to the point I only resent girls that try suck up my time since I have too much shit to do.

I wanted to know if you guys have had any luck in restarting girls that went silent when you ask them out. I'm including two exchanges I've had with girls who 1) already said yes to drinks from tinder, okc and 2) gave me their number. However they go silent when I set up a location and time for the date.


No response.


No response.

Should I next em both or try a restart later? And if I try a restart, what should I restart with? I'm not invested in these girls either way.

[Beyond Borders]

I'm no expert at the internet thing but it seems like you're jumping into setting plans a bit too fast (or, more importantly, without having any investment on their part to go on). Not sensing any real rapport with these girls yet.

Makes you seem a bit trigger happy and eager. I would slow your roll a tad and illicit a little interest before you ask them to meet.

Someone else will probably be more prepared to break down how to go about doing that.

[Fortis]

The best restart texts are statements. So, "what's up" is weaker than, "hey Misha I saw a dog that kinda looks like you."

[Tex]

I agree, I'm not seeing a lot of rapport here.

This could probably devolve into talking about pure text game basics, but if I were you, I'd pull back on the anecdotal conversation-getters. By that I mean those little side notes that you'd give a girl to bait her deeper into the conversation or fill space (or to project to her that your life is eventful). Things like "I set a potato on fire in the microwave earlier." If you use them too early or too often, it has a tendency to come off as gimmicky to girls, which could be leading to radio silence.

Text game is hard because there's a long list of things not to do, and half the things on that list are what most people rely on to keep conversations going. The trick to me is to act like it doesn't matter if the conversation dies once you get the number. Once you get the number, it's all about setting about logistics and possibly throwing a couple negs in there. Texting to me is pure business. It's different than the simple okc sites or tinder messages because once you get the number, then you're put into the girl's sort of "kill zone." That's where so many girls start looking out for the gimmicky stuff, or the typical stuff. Anything that looks to a girl like it's an attempt to make conversation go will typical cause her to subconsciously write you off. Texting is the crucible, man. Pure frame and a direct, "I'm-doing-so-and-so-come-through" attitude will pull you through it.

While it's pretty easy to get numbers, you're obviously doing something right to get to the texting part. Just use texting as the means to set something up, and pay attention to your frame. That's going to be important when you restart. Keeping in line with what I just said, I'd say a good restart is straight up saying "im going down to Restaurant for a bite to eat. then meeting friends at Place. come have some fun. Time." Being direct here is a sort of bold move, but if you wait a good week or so and then try it on them both at the same time, you increase the odds of getting one of them with you. Making the text seem rushed and full of errors nicely contrasts with your usually proper texting style, and better indicates that they were an afterthought. Something like that may just be direct enough to tell these bitches "Hey, I'm doing things, and if you want to have fun and get sexually annihilated, you'll come with me."

That kind of approach has worked for me before (in fact, it's led to the only success I've ever had in restarting text conversations). If you do go that route, let me know how it goes.

[XII]

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This could probably devolve into talking about pure text game basics, but if I were you, I'd pull back on the anecdotal conversation-getters. By that I mean those little side notes that you'd give a girl to bait her deeper into the conversation or fill space (or to project to her that your life is eventful). Things like "I set a potato on fire in the microwave earlier." If you use them too early or too often, it has a tendency to come off as gimmicky to girls, which could be leading to radio silence.

Just to clarify, that was no gimmick. I don't do gimmicks and I don't do text game. She texted me first that afternoon, asking what I was doing. That actually was what I was doing: the potato did catch on fire in the microwave, and I was cleaning it up.

Also, there's some misunderstanding. Just to clarify: both of these girls already said yes to drinks.

They then ghosted when I was setting up logistics.

I've boned a few dozen girls off the internet. I ask them out on the 1st or 2nd message, always. I said to both of these girls on okc/tinder: let's get drinks, cocktails, whatever, then they say:


Usually girls come out if they agree to meet up, but some flake (like the two above). So I want to know what to do with my stockpile of flakes, basically.

[Tex]

I'd next them bitches. They'll probably just waste your time unless they come boomerang to you again. If you really want to restart, just be very direct. People respond to that the most and it saves you a lot of time. But I'd next them.

[XII]

(07-27-2015 03:02 AM)Tex Wrote:  

I'd next them bitches. They'll probably just waste your time unless they come boomerang to you again. If you really want to restart, just be very direct. People respond to that the most and it saves you a lot of time. But I'd next them.

Probably right. But I'm going to text them again in a few days just as an intellectual exercise.

Online dating has been good to me the last 5 years. But now I have to get through a lot of shit to just get a girl to meet up. In the past, the flaking level was nothing like what I've experienced the past couple months. It really shot up this year.

I probably don't want to admit myself that online dating as a whole has already passed the tipping point and the well has run dry.