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07-17-2015, 08:45 AM
I am at a loss for words upon hearing that the staff of a military recruitment center is forbidden from being armed. Not caring to carry a firearm, sure, but forbidden? There are literally no people more qualified to handle guns and be trusted with them!
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07-17-2015, 08:46 AM
Quote: (07-17-2015 02:15 AM)speakeasy Wrote:
Quote: (07-16-2015 11:21 PM)Dr. Howard Wrote:
Let me throw out a casual observation...those towns with brutal poor black neighborhoods don't seem to be hosts to massive immigration. Nashville and Chattanooga for example, I don't hear people in state talking about "how bad it is" yet people will tell you not to go to memphis or east knoxville unless you would like your car stolen.
[Quick facts] Nashville is 28% black, Chattanooga 35%. Both well above the national average. So I'm not so sure about this theory. Also, Detroit has the biggest concentration of Muslims in the USA.
My speculations seem to be way off base then.
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07-17-2015, 08:46 AM
Below - here's what Obama and his administration have said so far about the gunman being a Muslim radical and this crime perfectly fitting the narrative ( which has been repeated time and time ) of a radicalized muslim shooting up people at military installations or just shooting up people in the public in general.
In other words, here's what they've said about linking this incident with radical Islam ( or anything Moslem related, underlined for emphasis ) :
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07-17-2015, 11:13 AM
The MMA link isn't surprising. Terrorists or not, these are still men in their 20s who have a primal need to express their masculinity through violence (see Jack Donovan's The Way of Men). Most of us here engage at least in weight lifting and many also are into boxing and MMA.
Sooner or later though the media is going to start questioning whether engineering schools and MMA gyms are breeding grounds for terrorists since it is good click-bait.
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07-17-2015, 12:43 PM
Quote: (07-16-2015 10:59 PM)Deepdiver Wrote:
Gunman identified as Muhammad Youssef Abdulazeez in shooting of 4 Marines at military facilities in Chattanooga, Tenn.
Facts:
He was from Kuwait one of the richest and most privileged countries on the planet and clearly a radicalized Muslim
He was a recent college graduate in the USA and working in the USA as an Engineer - Sleeper Cell?
He was smart enough to attack US Marines in a soft target location identified as a Gun Free Zone where the active duty Marines would be unarmed and unable to defend themselves.
He was not on any FBI or other Federal Watch list - thanks to SJW hate America Firsters not wanting any radical Islamists to be profiled or or offended by advanced behavioral modelling big data resources to even see if they fit the profile of a potential Islamist Radical murderer.
Forcing US Military to work in a Gun Free Zone??? Does anyone even read our constitution?
UN Diplomats and their security can be armed in the USA but Active Duty Marines are forced to work in Gun Free Zones with NO means of self defense this is what an SJW paradise looks like totally FUBAR.
Forcing our military to walk around in Red High Heels and Dresses to learn gender sensitivity and work in Gun Free Zones - whats next tattooing targets on their Foreheads and Backs in Boot Camp so ISIS Sympaticos know who to shoot - Obama is laying off 40,000 US Army troops and thinning all the services so that there is more funds avaialable for Obamunists favorite Marxist Feminist LGBTQ SJW community organizing programs.
It is high time to elect a patriotic American as CiC and not a Manchurian candidate Marxist Socialist like Obama whose actions do not lie - the man is systematically weaking the USA as much as possible in his lame duck session so he can tap all of our enemies for BHO Library Donations and the Obama Universal Socialist Initiative foundation.
I took the oath to protect and defend the US Constitution and our Country it enshrines from all enemies foreign and DOMESTIC - is it really to much to ask for a President and CiC who feels them same in his own heart and just not mouthing perfunctory words of support of the Marines families he does not really believe?
WTF is happening to our country and why is the Mass Media in sympathy with our enemies that I have listed in one essay post and several other posts in the Trump topic?
Didn't Obama say terrorism is the result of lack of economic opportunities and education?
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Conservatives Are Blasting the Obama Administration for Saying Unemployment Causes Terrorism. They’re Kind of Right.
State Department spokesperson Marie Harf is taking some heat over comments made this week to MSNBC’s Chris Matthews about the need for soft power in the fight against terrorism
“We cannot kill our way out of this war,” she said. “We need in the medium to longer term to go after the root causes that lead people to join these groups, whether it’s a lack of opportunity for jobs….”
Matthews countered that this isn’t a viable strategy since “There’s always going to be poor Muslims, and as long as there are poor Muslims, the trumpet’s blowing and they’ll join,” to which Harf replied that “We can work with countries around the world to help improve their governance. We can help them build their economies so they can have job opportunities for these people.”
Coming just as the White House outlines a new set of nonmilitary plans to fight groups like ISIS, Harf’s comments were blasted by conservative critics as, in the words of Rush Limbaugh, a “left-wing syrupy embarrassingly sickening cliché.”
Harf is defending herself, noting that military commanders have said very similar things. Indeed, the idea that we must “fight against poverty because hope is an answer to terror,” was conventional wisdom even before George W. Bush said it. Barack Obama has been making this argument since he was a state senator.
Harf was not saying anything radical or even particularly unusual. But that doesn’t
necessarily mean she’s right. As the security analyst Erin Simpson wrote on Twitter today, “The idea that somewhere, somehow there is one ‘root cause’ for terrorism or violent extremism or civil wars is appealing. But it's a mirage.”
The idea of terrorists as desperate young men lacking in economic opportunity is not borne out by empirical evidence. A well-known 2002 paper by economists Alan Krueger (later an assistant secretary of the Treasury in the Obama administration) and Jitka Maleckova found that support for violence among Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza was not any higher among those with lower living standards or levels of education. In Lebanon, participation in Hezbollah was actually associated with higher living standards and levels of education. The same was true for Israeli settlers who participated in attacks against Palestinians.
A 2012 survey in Pakistan reached a similar conclusion: Poorer Pakistanis were less likely to support militants than the middle class. The political scientists conducting the study hypothesized that “the urban poor suffer most from militants’ violent activities and so most intensely dislike them.” A 2004 study by Harvard economist Alberto Abadie, looking at country level data, found that “terrorist risk is not significantly higher for poorer countries.” Abadie found political freedom to be a more important factor: Countries in the kinda-free range had more terrorism than highly democratic or highly autocratic countries.
Some have argued that there’s a more subtle relationship: Terrorists have relatively high socio-economic status but are more recruitable during economic downturns or times of high unemployment. That’s, admittedly, a tricky argument to cram into a Chris Matthews segment. And I’m not sure that’s what Harf was getting at anyway.
As I’ve written before, the idea of poverty as a driving factor in why someone becomes a terrorist is a persistent one because the U.S. public is extremely skeptical about foreign aid to help alleviate poverty abroad and this is a way to sell it as a security priority. Similarly, fears about attacks against the U.S. homeland have driven public support for the war against ISIS, even though the administration itself has said the risk of such an attack is low.
Harf is certainly right that simply killing terrorists won’t accomplish much if instability continues to spread in the Middle East. In some cases, it could make things worse. It’s encouraging that the administration is making the case that countering violent extremism is a more complicated process. Unfortunately, it’s even more complicated than what they’re describing to the cable news audience.
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07-17-2015, 04:24 PM
Well Chop my cock off and call me Caitlyn, Ole Johnny Jihad kills 4 marines on our soil and he is considered a lone nut, but let some deranged white man shoot someone of a different ethnicity and every white person in the country is a racist and its all the Confederates flags fault. - Murica
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07-17-2015, 04:30 PM
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07-19-2015, 03:07 AM
Quote: (07-18-2015 07:05 PM)Eskhander Wrote:
The Telegraph is a bit more direct.
Chattanooga Shooter sent a text message declaring war: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnew...um=twitter
Most of the mainstream media just can't make the obvious connection yet again because it goes against their whole world paradigm of "everyone's the same, religions are equal, multiculturalism is wonderful etc." & they don't want to cause some sort of reprisal.
So they just keep their heads in the sand and keep on repeating the same old tired moral relativism bullshit.
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07-19-2015, 05:12 AM
Quote: (07-16-2015 03:35 PM)AntiTrace Wrote:
So a kid kills 9 people in a charlestown church and its "WHITE man murders 9 BLACK people at church" but when a muslim goes off the rockers its "4 dead at Navy Center"
What a joke the media is.
Funny thing is, I guarantee you that the other side (left, liberals, SJWs, whatever) will say the exact opposite.
(i.e. "So a kid kills 9 people in a charlestown church and it's "9 dead in Church shooting" but when a guy kills 4 people at a Navy base it's "
MUSLIM TERROR ATTACK kills 4 at Navy Centre. What a joke the media is.")
Now I'm not saying you're not more correct than they are, but I do think that there are
instances where both perspectives are correct. Just food for thought really.
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07-19-2015, 05:03 PM
Quote: (07-19-2015 02:12 PM)speakeasy Wrote:
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Photo about white house not lowering flag
Probably because you'd have to lower them to half staff every time a soldier died fighting in Iraq or Afghanistan to be consistent. Which would mean it would have to be lowered over and over thousands of times. I'm guessing that's the logic.
I suppose. Or Obama doesn't want to call attention to another attack by his Muslim brethren on US soil.
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07-19-2015, 05:29 PM
I'm still in awe after time and time again the need for troops to be armed on and off post presents itself through tragedy.
Shootings at Fort Hood in 2009 and 2014 combined left 17 people dead.
Washington Naval Yard 2013, 13 people dead.
Chattanooga, TN 6 people dead.
Am I completely fucking retarded in seeing that statistics alone could have prevented this is anyone bothered to take a second look?