Out of curiosity, and wondering where I stand relative to other folks (both more and less advanced than me)...
1. How many approaches do you do per night on average?
2. What percentage of your approaches do you get...
2a. ...a phone number?
2b. ...a makeout?
2c. ...a same-night lay?
3. What percentage of your phone numbers...
3a. ...end up being fake?
3b. ...do you ever manage to speak to the girl again? (either on the phone or back-and-forth texts)
3c. ...result in a date?
4. Once you get a girl on a date, what percentage of the time do you end up having sex with her sooner or later?
I'll answer first, obviously these are rough figures but I'm trying to be completely honest. Note that this is purely night game at bars; no day game, no social circle game (there are no single women in my social circle), no house party game (the "parties", if they can be called as much, I am invited to generally tend to be massive sausage parties and the only women present are the guys' SOs).
1. 10
2a. 30%
2b. Rare, maybe a few percent.
2c. Significantly less than 1%.
3a. 5%
3b. 10%
3c. 5%
4. 0%
Some more commentary:
1. These days I usually spend the better part of the night talking to girls. Approach anxiety is no longer a problem for me most nights.
2a. Used to be doing maybe 15% but suddenly I'm doing much better here, and getting what feels like solid attraction maybe 50% of the time.
2b. My bar makeouts have generally come from girls approaching me, not the other way around.
2c. Happened once, ever. It was weird. I'd rather not ever see her again.
3a. Fortunately fake phone numbers are rare in my experience.
3b. Typically what happens is: I call, I get voicemail, I leave a message, I never hear from her again.
3c. If I do get ahold of her, I always try to set something up. Sometimes she rudely hangs up on me. Sometimes she declines/effectively declines ("I'll call you if I'm free", never hear back). Sometimes she flakes.
4. Yep, since getting started with Game about 6 months ago, zero. The denominator isn't all that big, I haven't had a lot of dates in total. Only recently have I gotten to the point where this is probably more effective for me in getting dates than online dating, and online dating SUCKED. Anyway, yeah, sucks to admit it, closing the deal is definitely my weakest area. Why? Occasionally I decide I'm not interested in the girl after all, but usually I fail to push things forward and then nothing happens. I'm still trying to figure out date logistics (good venues, how to get a girl back to my place, etc.). Sometimes the date is kind of a flop. Sometimes a date ends on what seems to me to be a positive note (good conversation + a makeout, for example), but then the girl stops answering my calls.
1. How many approaches do you do per night on average?
2. What percentage of your approaches do you get...
2a. ...a phone number?
2b. ...a makeout?
2c. ...a same-night lay?
3. What percentage of your phone numbers...
3a. ...end up being fake?
3b. ...do you ever manage to speak to the girl again? (either on the phone or back-and-forth texts)
3c. ...result in a date?
4. Once you get a girl on a date, what percentage of the time do you end up having sex with her sooner or later?
I'll answer first, obviously these are rough figures but I'm trying to be completely honest. Note that this is purely night game at bars; no day game, no social circle game (there are no single women in my social circle), no house party game (the "parties", if they can be called as much, I am invited to generally tend to be massive sausage parties and the only women present are the guys' SOs).
1. 10
2a. 30%
2b. Rare, maybe a few percent.
2c. Significantly less than 1%.
3a. 5%
3b. 10%
3c. 5%
4. 0%
Some more commentary:
1. These days I usually spend the better part of the night talking to girls. Approach anxiety is no longer a problem for me most nights.
2a. Used to be doing maybe 15% but suddenly I'm doing much better here, and getting what feels like solid attraction maybe 50% of the time.
2b. My bar makeouts have generally come from girls approaching me, not the other way around.
2c. Happened once, ever. It was weird. I'd rather not ever see her again.
3a. Fortunately fake phone numbers are rare in my experience.
3b. Typically what happens is: I call, I get voicemail, I leave a message, I never hear from her again.
3c. If I do get ahold of her, I always try to set something up. Sometimes she rudely hangs up on me. Sometimes she declines/effectively declines ("I'll call you if I'm free", never hear back). Sometimes she flakes.
4. Yep, since getting started with Game about 6 months ago, zero. The denominator isn't all that big, I haven't had a lot of dates in total. Only recently have I gotten to the point where this is probably more effective for me in getting dates than online dating, and online dating SUCKED. Anyway, yeah, sucks to admit it, closing the deal is definitely my weakest area. Why? Occasionally I decide I'm not interested in the girl after all, but usually I fail to push things forward and then nothing happens. I'm still trying to figure out date logistics (good venues, how to get a girl back to my place, etc.). Sometimes the date is kind of a flop. Sometimes a date ends on what seems to me to be a positive note (good conversation + a makeout, for example), but then the girl stops answering my calls.