[kaotic]

(07-09-2015 04:48 PM)Dusty Wrote:  

(07-09-2015 03:51 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

Of course it's a train full of beta males. It's Washington DC! Easy pickings for criminals I'm surprised it doesn't happen more often.

Also here's a picture of the criminal on the left and the victim on the right:

So the guy on the right, always preaching about "white privilege" and "police brutality" was killed by the same kinds of black thugs he was tirelessly defending. Who wants to bet that some of the passengers on the train were afraid to intervene else they look like a racist for attacking a young black "youth"?

This is ultimately the end-game of SJW's: a bunch of traitors hoping they won't be the ones picked off first. An extremely cowardly and pathetic way to live.

The victim has gay face and in general looks like a weak chicken. If he lifted and looked more alpha or even a little less beta, do you think he'd be targeted?

Relevant.

Another reason to have "resting asshole face".

[H1N1]

(07-09-2015 04:27 PM)rpg Wrote:  

I am not going to sit there and ignore someone getting murdered. Ill take my chances. Just shouting, screaming and throwing shit could distract the killer enough for someone to knock the weapon away.

Do not 'shout, scream or throw shit', you will just get in the way of people who can actually handle business. Either be one of them and take effective action, or stay the fuck out of the way. Doing what you suggest is how other innocent or well-meaning people get themselves killed.

Find an effective way of neutralising the bloke and strike to put him out of action. Or don't. But don't do half arsed ineffective shit, that really is how you get yourself or those around you hurt.

[teh_skeeze]

(07-09-2015 03:12 PM)Atlanta Man Wrote:  

If I am in Miami and a man is getting assaulted and stabbed by a criminal I would not hesitate to shoot the criminal multiple times. I have said it before and I will say it again, carry a gun and you will never need it but as soon as you don't carry it you will find yourself need it, so always carry it. The police are not going to be there in time to save you, don't be a victim carry a gun.

In Miami, you would get a medal for being a good Samaritan. In DC or NYC, you get arrested for assault, possibly get sued, and have his buddies get a hold of the police report so they know where to go to seek revenge.

[speakeasy]

(07-09-2015 03:51 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

Of course it's a train full of beta males. It's Washington DC! Easy pickings for criminals I'm surprised it doesn't happen more often.

Also here's a picture of the criminal on the left and the victim on the right:



So the guy on the right, always preaching about "white privilege" and "police brutality" was killed by the same kinds of black thugs he was tirelessly defending.

How do you know he was defending thugs? That's quite a statement to make. Maybe he was defending ordinary black people whose lives were effected by racism and police brutality. Just because someone opposes these things doesn't mean they support thugs! Or that they deserve to be killed by them. If he was advocating that all black inmates be released from prison as a compensation for racism, then I could more readily see your point.

I think there's this polarizing notion that you are either on the black side or white side. And if you say anything about racism, you are automatically anti-white and siding with ALL black people, even if they are criminals. While I have never had any problem with the cops, there are upstanding black RVF members who have been fucked with by cops. Maybe it is these type of people that guys like Sutherland were trying to defend.

[JohnKreese]

I'm the last one to play armchair hero, but in a situation where a guy is getting stabbed to death and I am locked inside a small space with the assailant, I have to assume that I can't get away and that I will be stabbed next or eventually. Still can't say exactly how things would ultimately turn out, but this is a bit different than seeing something on the street and proclaiming to act like a hero as opposed to be trapped and possibly the next victim if action isn't taken when strength of numbers are still in favor.

[Samseau]

(07-09-2015 05:28 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

(07-09-2015 03:51 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

Of course it's a train full of beta males. It's Washington DC! Easy pickings for criminals I'm surprised it doesn't happen more often.

Also here's a picture of the criminal on the left and the victim on the right:



So the guy on the right, always preaching about "white privilege" and "police brutality" was killed by the same kinds of black thugs he was tirelessly defending.

How do you know he was defending thugs? That's quite a statement to make. Maybe he was defending ordinary black people whose lives were effected by racism and police brutality. Just because someone opposes these things doesn't mean they support thugs! Or that they deserve to be killed by them. If he was advocating that all black inmates be released from prison as a compensation for racism, then I could more readily see your point.

Because anyone who speaks about police injustice with terms like "white privilege" isn't concerned with truth or judging cases on an individual basis. Terms like "white privilege" is how thugs like Michael Brown were defended. If the first thing that comes up in a police case is the color of the officer's skin, then you know they aren't even remotely concerned with truth or justice. And that's exactly how this Rutherford guy lived his life. A little DC drone toting the party line so he could get high fives from all of his white SJW buddies. As for concrete evidence, here you go. Here is Kevin defending Freddie Grey before the case was even brought to trial:

https://twitter.com/KevinSutherland/stat...8310362113

Quote:

I think there's this polarizing notion that you are either on the black side or white side. And if you say anything about racism, you are automatically anti-white and siding with ALL black people, even if they are criminals. While I have never had any problem with the cops, there are upstanding black RVF members who have been fucked with by cops. Maybe it is these type of people that guys like Sutherland were trying to defend.

The thing is, if people were merely concerned with police brutality and police injustice there wouldn't be any need to refer to the skin color of the cop.

Many White men on this forum have been fucked over by cops, myself included. When people claim it's "racism" on the cops part, however, then they are just distracting from the issue and everything becomes emotionally charged.

[T and A Man]

Goodbye America indeed.

Once, American men, as simple as semi literate farm boys from Indiana, hopped in the cramped seats of a Dauntless dive bomber, and flew them into hot lead fire storms of the most feared combat group in the world at the time...

the Imperial Japanese Navy taskforce at the Battle of Midway

a thug with a knife would have seemed trite to them. Now his great grandson watches by as another human being gets stabbed, and that grandson hopes that if he does nothing, stares away and avoids "whatchyu lookin' at" that everything will be ok. Then he can go home, put on his pyjamas, drink hot chocolate and go go on twitter to post how we need to ban the confederate flag to make the world a better place.

It doesn't take much training to disarm a wielded knife with nothing more than a jacket, only we cant teach our boys this because they instead have to attend sensitivity training.

Something brilliant, western civilisation, is being dismantled here.

[Metal]

Are you guys suggesting this guy is a liberal homosexual purely from how his face looks, or am I missing something.

Sometimes it's just bad luck. Although if you're jacked bad luck tends to happen a lot less.

I noticed baad luck happened to me a lot less when I got stacked...

[Samseau]

(07-09-2015 05:51 PM)T and A Man Wrote:  

Goodbye America indeed.

Once, American men, as simple as semi literate farm boys from Indiana, hopped in the cramped seats of a Dauntless dive bomber, and flew them into hot lead fire storms of the most feared combat group in the world at the time...

the Imperial Japanese Navy taskforce at the Battle of Midway

a thug with a knife would have seemed trite to them. Now his great grandson watches by as another human being gets stabbed, and that grandson hopes that if he does nothing, stares away and avoids "whatchyu lookin' at" that everything will be ok. Then he can go home, put on his pyjamas, drink hot chocolate and go go on twitter to post how we need to ban the confederate flag to make the world a better place.

It doesn't take much training to disarm a wielded knife with nothing more than a jacket, only we cant teach our boys this because they instead have to attend sensitivity training.

Something brilliant, western civilisation, is being dismantled here.

Well hold on man, this is WASHINGTON DC. Capital of the biggest pussies in the USA. The people in that train are not representative of real American men. You will rarely encounter a manly American man in DC.

[LeeEnfield303]

I don't carry to protect random strangers - I carry to protect myself and mine.

"You just killed an unarmed man!"
"Well, he should have armed himself." - William Munney

[Aphex]

Well hopefully he gets buttfucked then shanked in prison like the bitch he is.

[Repo]

Yeah, if I had a gun would I have shot him? Hell to the yes. Unarmed? I would sit my ass down and give him my wallet, cell, whatever he asks. We only get one shot at life, why risk it all for material posessions? Man should have given up the phone.

Its got to be a crazy situation, I can imagine a few of them probably thought maybe they should intervene, surely if they all ganged up on him they would win. But how do you know youll get any help? All of this in a few seconds. . .fuck that.

[trian1]

(07-09-2015 05:51 PM)T and A Man Wrote:  

It doesn't take much training to disarm a wielded knife with nothing more than a jacket, only we cant teach our boys this because they instead have to attend sensitivity training.

It was July 4th, with a high dew point/humidity and everyone sweating balls. You do not carry a jacket in this swamp land.

It was daytime, so tourists would represent a higher percentage of those on the car.

This situation is difficult to imagine. First, the guy was on synthetic "marijuana." He was psychotic and not in a rational state.

Also, people these days seem to greatly underestimate the lethality of a knife. People often discuss it as if it is almost a kids toy, rather than the device probably responsible for more homicides in human history than all other forms combined.

The amount of self-defense I know is that the best self-defense against a knife is for you to put as much space between yourself and "the pointy end" (ok, and the slashing blade).

In retrospect, one can think about the possibility that there is a fire extinguisher at the end of the car, but even then, it would be hard to think to use that for anything than a last-resort defense if the assailant is approaching you. Again, to use it for blunt force requires putting yourself closer to the knife. Using it to fog the area limits your visibility and ability to get away from danger.

I have to say, if I see a knife on a closed in Metro train, my first reaction would probably be to flee to the adjacent car and bar the door.

[Lizard King]

(07-09-2015 05:52 PM)Metal Wrote:  

Are you guys suggesting this guy is a liberal homosexual purely from how his face looks, or am I missing something.

Did you miss the facebook post of the victim's that Wastelander provided? http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-48940-...pid1061535


It's the typical platitudinous outpouring of the type of person who can be described as a 'liberal'. We're not saying he was gay, we're saying he is lacking masculinity.

The kind of idiot who thinks they are making the world better with their social media output.

There are so many of this type of person today, it's dreadful and makes me misanthropic.

[trian1]

The part that is most disturbing about this story, was the suspect had been arrested on felony assault charges on the 2nd (same situation, grabbed someone and assaulted them), but then the charges were dropped to misdemeanor on the 3rd. This could have been avoided if those in charge had done their job.

[KofiKingston]

(07-09-2015 04:01 PM)Lucky Wrote:  

(07-09-2015 03:51 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

Also here's a picture of the criminal on the left and the victim on the right:

Thanks for clarifying.

I would have guessed it was the other way around given the amount of white privilege in American society.

[Quintus Curtius]

Jesus Christ, isn't there a bloody alarm someone could have pulled? What about an emergency stop brake? Blast his ass with a fire extinguisher?

The media is already trying to rationalize and excuse the viciousness of the crime by saying he was high on drugs...

[H1N1]

(07-09-2015 07:00 PM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  

Jesus Christ, isn't there a bloody alarm someone could have pulled? What about an emergency stop brake? Blast his ass with a fire extinguisher?

The media is already trying to rationalize and excuse the viciousness of the crime by saying he was high on drugs...

One trained and determined man with a sturdy ball point pen and an element of surprise...

[trian1]

(07-09-2015 07:00 PM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  

Jesus Christ, isn't there a bloody alarm someone could have pulled? What about an emergency stop brake? Blast his ass with a fire extinguisher?

The media is already trying to rationalize the crime by saying he was high on drugs...

They were pulling into the station. And no, there is no emergency stop brake for passengers. That would become nothing but a teen prank staple.

There is "often" (not always) one fire extinguisher at the rear of each car (where I think this attack may have been occurring). However, even if you had access to it and sprayed it, it would leave you unable to see the crazed man swinging a sharp blade around in the confusion.

http://www.wmata.com/getting_around/safe...etyfaq.cfm

Stabbings are fast. It sounds like this occurred quickly. The guy tried to grab something, a normal response is to grab it back. The suspect cold-cocked him, and then started stabbing him. It wasn't like he wielded a knife, demanded property, the guy refused, and then he stabbed him.

[Easy_C]

In regards to that "resting asshole face".

If you guys are REALLY interested in observing some body language and to see how you can be threatening just from posture and mannerisms alone, do the following

IT IS IMPORTANT THAT YOU FOLLOW MY ADVICE TO THE LETTER.

Go to a local dive bar where Outlaw Biker types hang out. Despite what you've been told they're generally friendly, but they are also very cliquish and won't react well to any attitude on your part.


Go in, grab a beer. Then shut the fuck up, sit the fuck down, and observe. Sip a beer, watch the TV, and quietly absorb the atmosphere. Do not try to approach anyone. If they approach you just be friendly and honest, and say that you were in the neighborhood and decided to stop in and grab a beer on your way home. Don't insult them, don't ask any probing questions or ANY questions about their club (normal conversational questions like asking them about their military service if they mention being a vet are fine), and be chill. Don't stare at anyone but stay alert.


I guarantee it will be massively educational. They have an "asshole face" that would discourage anyone from even thinking about fucking with the, and they know how to give a death star that will make almost anyone who does think about it back down.

[BortimusPrime]

No comment until my warning level resets.

[JohnKreese]

(07-09-2015 07:00 PM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  

Jesus Christ, isn't there a bloody alarm someone could have pulled? What about an emergency stop brake? Blast his ass with a fire extinguisher?

The media is already trying to rationalize and excuse the viciousness of the crime by saying he was high on drugs...

On, of ALL metros, the DC metro??!! What a disaster that would be!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incidents_...gton_Metro

You're slippin' QC!

[TheBMan]

Look, I live in the DC area and take metro sometimes. I'm a Republican who hates Obama, hates Hillary, hates feminism, and loves the things Trump is saying. If that mf'er with the knife would have tried to rob me I would have fought his ass until he killed me, and I dont think he could have, even with the knife. I'm 6'3, 200, and can handle myself.
That being said, for the last 8 or so years guys like Kevin Sutherland have been calling us racists, woman haters, pushing shit like Obamacare on us, and just doing their typical Liberal bullshit despite us telling them all along it was a bad idea - if you think I'm going to risk my life helping out one these whiny little Obama leftie bitches who have gloated the last 7 years you're fucking nuts. You and your shitty policies created these situations, you fix them yourself.

[Sherman]

The laws encourage beta behavior. Look at what happened to Zimmerman. Do you know if the District of Colombia allows defense of others? Everything you do will be carefully reviewed by a liberal leftist prosecutor looking to see if you applied too much force or provoked the confrontation. Or you may end up being judged by a jury from a district whose sympathies are with the criminals. Do you want to take the legal risk?

[Dusty]

(07-09-2015 07:50 PM)Sherman Wrote:  

The laws encourage beta behavior. Look at what happened to Zimmerman. Do you know if the District of Colombia allows defense of others? Everything you do will be carefully reviewed by a liberal leftist prosecutor looking to see if you applied too much force or provoked the confrontation. Or you may end up being judged by a jury from a district whose sympathies are with the criminal. Do you want to take the legal risk?

Most of you guys are too young to remember Bernie Goetz.

When NYC was a real hell hole, he shot some thugs on the subway. He got off, but the liberals and media (but I repeat myself) hated him.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernhard_Goetz

Quote:

Bernhard Hugo Goetz (born November 7, 1947) is a New York City man known for shooting four young men when they tried to mug him[2][3][4][5] on a New York City Subway train in Manhattan on December 22, 1984. He fired five shots, seriously wounding all four men. Nine days later he surrendered to police and was eventually charged with attempted murder, assault, reckless endangerment, and several firearms offenses. A jury found him not guilty of all charges except for one count of carrying an unlicensed firearm, for which he served eight months of a one-year sentence. In 1996, one of the shot men, who had been left paraplegic and brain damaged as a result of his injuries, obtained a civil judgment of $43 million against Goetz.[6]

The incident sparked a nationwide debate on race and crime in major cities, the legal limits of self-defense, and the extent to which the citizenry could rely on the police to secure their safety.[4] Although Goetz, dubbed the "Subway Vigilante" by New York City's press, came to symbolize New Yorkers' frustrations with the high crime rates of the 1980s, he was both praised and vilified in the media and public opinion. The incident has also been cited as a contributing factor to the groundswell movement against urban crime and disorder,[7] and the successful National Rifle Association campaigns to loosen restrictions on the concealed carrying of firearms.