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07-09-2015, 12:19 AM
Does anybody ever actually make moves to leave the US after saying it's "time to leave the US"?
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07-09-2015, 01:43 AM
^ You don't have to do all that. Just leave.
To each his own and your way certainly sounds more responsible, but if you plan to internal transfer within a company after you graduate, you've got quite a few years ahead of you. Just from what I've read, mind you. I'm certainly no expert on the corporate route.
After my first semester abroad, I just came back and said fuck it and left. I never got a degree and it hasn't held me back one bit.
Seems like guys who do the long-term/safe plan to get out never end up leaving (too many opportunities to get sidetracked), but then again, I'm sure that doesn't apply to everyone. If you want to make it happen your way and are willing to stick to the goal, I'm sure it's very doable too, so I don't mean to be a downer.
Good on you for making moves, anyhow.
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07-09-2015, 02:19 AM
The true cultural "fuck you" will be when they have the science to wash this shit and make it good to go for all recipients. I have O- and the blood banks beat me down with donor requests. Currently, I can only receive my type if I was in need. If that time comes in the future, I would prefer that it not be from needle junkies and pillow biters. Is that too much to ask? If it is, I'd rather just bleed out.
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07-09-2015, 08:19 PM
All blood is tested for HIV. There is no reason at all for this ban.
I am disappointed that this discussion is even taking place here.
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07-09-2015, 10:11 PM
Quote: (07-09-2015 08:19 PM)puckerman Wrote:
I am disappointed that this discussion is even taking place here.
... and?
Quote: (07-09-2015 08:19 PM)puckerman Wrote:
All blood is tested for HIV. There is no reason at all for this ban.
There
is a reason, tests aren't perfect.
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07-10-2015, 05:10 PM
I just donated blood this week. If I was in the hospital and needed blood, I would want to know if it was a straight person or a homo that donated it.
If conscious, I would demand straight person blood just to have a smaller chance of getting HIV.
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07-10-2015, 06:24 PM
Are gays fighting to donate blood? Another wall of oppression that needs to be destroyed? Why can't they just own the statistics? I don't have an extreme dislike of gays like some on this forum. I actually have a couple of gay friends. I have never heard them say, "You know what is really pissing me off samsamsam? I really want to donate blood, but I can't. Man I am losing sleep over this."
I bet a gay man who needs a blood transfusion (if you can get him to be honest), would be prefer straight blood also.
It just has to be some shitliber (just learned this term) thinking how cool it would be to tinker with shit that isn't broken.
I have always considered myself a moderate, but lately I am starting to think the left needs to have a few setbacks. They don't know the long term implications of some of the shit they are complaining about.
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07-10-2015, 10:38 PM
Quote: (07-09-2015 12:19 AM)Beyond Borders Wrote:
Does anybody ever actually make moves to leave the US after saying it's "time to leave the US"?
Yeah, I'm currently working on
the early retirement idea but I'll take it a step further. Gonna save up about 200k, learn how to invest it like the ERE guy and expatriate to a more sane country with a lower cost of living. Depending on where it is I could probably buy a house outright and actually own the land, as opposed to paying rent to the government in the form of property taxes.
The biggest risk to this plan is just like you said, it's easy to get sidetracked in the five or so years it will take to accomplish.
Like a lot of posters have said, make money in the US then get the fuck out.
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07-11-2015, 01:05 AM
There is a lot of precedent law that if you give a sexual partner a life threatening disease you are liable for a number of serious criminal and civil charges up to and including aggravated assault and or attempted murder depending upon the jurisdiction - posters in gay bars and bath houses that proclaim Do NOT let HIV keep you from great sex do NOT help...
iirc Robin Williams was successfully sued for giving herpes HSV2 (Genital) to a female groupie sex partner and it was settled quietly out of court and that seemed the beginning of the end for an eventually suicidal Robin Williams. Clearly transmitting HIV or Hepatitis are far more serious crimes.
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07-11-2015, 01:11 AM
Some of you "autists" are really good at data plugging to back up laissez faire attitude of vital medical practices.
Let me use a few metaphors to explain my discomfort in opening blood donations to the highest risk HIV community.
Imagine the human eye could look at a cloud with a special light and differentiate water from dirt and metal. There are countless particles of each in a single cloud. By careful examination, each particle could be categorized in time. This is a lot like blood. Billions of cells exist in small amounts of tissue. Finding the needle in each haystack is not only tedious, but requiring great method. Now imagine someone invented a chemical or computer for the same function, just automated now. Yes, there's an error inherent each method; whether it be an inattentive eye, a unbounded chemical or a under lap in some computers detection algorithm, it could always lead to a particle going undetected. The mistake is exponential increasing the risk by allowing a risk that isn't necessary. Gay people aren't being harmed by this. Damn this emotional era where one can claim injury over hurt feelings.
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07-12-2015, 07:40 PM
^^^^
Damn, that is a scary statistic. I wonder how that plays out city by city though. I remember reading that in places like DC 40% of new AIDS cases happen in black women and this is largely due to black guys being on the down low or IV drug use. Also, DC has one of the largest gay male populations, with something like 8% of the DC population being gay compared to less than 2% in the greater US.
I wonder if DC and San Francisco aren't inflating the numbers.
Either way, that is still fucking scary. Imagine getting dragged to a gay bar with some females, has happened to me a few times, and you could literally be surrounded by a couple dozen AIDS infected guys. Creepy.
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07-12-2015, 08:00 PM
I'm a healthcare professional and I used to work at an non-profit for HIV lgbt people. HIV infected people are everywhere.
Luckily, most I've encountered aren't reckless with their disease and maintain human concern for others.
On the darker end of things, some still behave wantonly irresponsible and that's why I have an issue with the blood donations. Poorer straight people are enough risk.
When I worked at this non-profit support center for HIV positives, I happened to strike up conversation with one of my coworkers that lead to a realization. She explained to me why they incorporated so many classes before handing out certain benefits to the more poor clients and why transsexuals were given different treatment from the rest. She mentioned in the same breathe that many of the transsexuals are actively prostituting to make funds for hormone treatment and surgery.
After having this blow my mind, I had to see for my self. It's common known fact in the US that all types of degenerate behavior happens on the craigslist and backpage personals classified ads. I looked over the ads betting that I'd find at least one of the clients posting an ad for random sex or prostitution.
Lo and behold, the psychotic and gruesome looking tranny that regularly visited the non-profit had an advertisement posted in the S&M Fetish section. Nothing can surprise now about how careless and depraved some people will go.
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07-12-2015, 08:05 PM
^
How does it work when a man with an obviously stereotypically effeminate gay personality tries to donate blood? Is he turned away even if answers "no" to those questions?
You never hear about lawsuits regarding this, but you think there would be some.
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07-12-2015, 08:11 PM
I've never worked at a blood donation center, so I wouldn't have a clue.