Quote: (06-18-2015 05:03 AM)Cyr Wrote:
Quote: (06-18-2015 12:53 AM)mikado Wrote:
Quote: (06-17-2015 02:02 PM)Galahad Wrote:
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Make no mistake: these guys are pushing for "France is for whites", not "France is for French".
Maybe their ancesters should have applied the same to Africa, instead of colonizing it and iplementing the French way of life there.
Mikado, I normally enjoy your contrarian opinions, but your argument makes no sense. Do you believe in collective guilt? That because this women's ancestors colonized Africa, (or not, she just happens to be of the same race), it makes sense to 'colonize' her country and 'implement the African way of life'?
That doesn't seem very just. Is it ok to kill Germans because of WW2? Or implement a genocide on Rwandans?
Came (back) here to say this.
So I'll just expand a bit:
Mikado, by your line of reasoning, Every currently living man is guilty for the (past and ongoing) rape of women, Chinese foot binding and genital mutilation.
Every currently living west African is responsible for selling their neighbors into slavery.
Every currently living Muslim is responsible for the acts of Boko Haram, al shabab and alqueda (spelling?).
Every currently living Woman is responsible divorce rape and feminism.
Every currently living Turk for the Armenian genocide, Bulgarian occupation etc
The list goes on and on and on.
In fact, pic any person and you can easily tie them to group that at some point, in our relatively shot tenure on this hunk o' rock, has wronged another.
Turn about is NOT fair play.
"Eye for an eye" is a the path that eventually leads to mutually assured destruction.
I will be the absolute last person to suggest that we should forget the past—as that will all but guarantee that we repeat it.
We cannot change what happened, but we can ensure that we do all we can to stop historical atrocities' modern day parallels from occurring. Now.
I guess the TL;DR is the French have every right to be upset about the sentiment expressed in the original mural, and have the right to express that healthily without feeling guilt for something their forebearers (or in the case of Muslims) outlying contemporaries have done.