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Is Western Europe worth it?
Western Europe is the king of geographical beauty. Highlights The coast of Italy south France and Spain
Eastern Europe will be the king of Beautiful women. Highlights will be Kiev, Moscow, Minsk
Pretty much black-and-white.
Prague will be a happy medium where you can experience a little bit of both: city beauty and female beauty in one.
Eastern Europe will be the king of Beautiful women. Highlights will be Kiev, Moscow, Minsk
Pretty much black-and-white.
Prague will be a happy medium where you can experience a little bit of both: city beauty and female beauty in one.
Yes, Germany, France, Netherlands, Austria are beautiful countries with a long history and amazing landscapes. And the girls are open minded
It depends.
How long are you looking to stay in those places?
I've been to Amsterdam, Paris and London before and i didn't find it that special to be honest, simply because i was already raised in Western culture and i've already seen countless movies and series about it on tv.
I've never found those places to be very 'novel' .
Eastern and Central Europe on the other hand, are much more interesting to me, because not that many tourists go there and because i don't know much about the culture, language and customs. It's a bit more of a 'challenge'.
And the women are also more beautiful there.
That being said, Amsterdam, Paris and London are still some of the most amazing cites in the world and definitely worth a visit.
How long are you looking to stay in those places?
I've been to Amsterdam, Paris and London before and i didn't find it that special to be honest, simply because i was already raised in Western culture and i've already seen countless movies and series about it on tv.
I've never found those places to be very 'novel' .
Eastern and Central Europe on the other hand, are much more interesting to me, because not that many tourists go there and because i don't know much about the culture, language and customs. It's a bit more of a 'challenge'.
And the women are also more beautiful there.
That being said, Amsterdam, Paris and London are still some of the most amazing cites in the world and definitely worth a visit.
Western Europe and it's sights will still be there waiting for you when you are 50 and married and doesn't care about chasing young pussy anymore.
So go and experience Eastern European girls right now as long as they are still something to experience. Times are changing fast over there.
So go and experience Eastern European girls right now as long as they are still something to experience. Times are changing fast over there.
I'm going to disagree a bit. Western Europe is great in the Summer time. Go after the tourist girls as there are tons. Stick to 2 tier cities like Prague, Barcelona, ets as they are cheaper then Paris, London, etc.
I was in Barcelona last Summer and loved it.
I was in Barcelona last Summer and loved it.
Depends on why you are going. I enjoyed London and Amsterdam when I was there - but enjoyed the EE cities as well. If $$ is important the bang for your buck from Eastern Europe is incredible. I traveled through Europe for about 6 weeks 7 or so years ago and I remember having lunch in London at McDonalds and spending like $16 for an extra value meal, then a week later being at a nice restaurant in Prague and having wine, a cocktail, appetizer, main course, desert, and coffee for under $25 a few days later.
Money-wise and pussy-wise, nope. Not worth it.
OP,
Both Western Europe and Eastern Europe are great. If you only have 3 weeks, there's only so much you can do, Europe is a big place.
My advice is, don't sweat it. No matter where you pick, you'll be 'missing out' on dozens of other great places. So just go with your gut, pick some places and go have a good time there. I don't think there's a 'correct' answer.
Aside:
Both Western Europe and Eastern Europe are great. If you only have 3 weeks, there's only so much you can do, Europe is a big place.
My advice is, don't sweat it. No matter where you pick, you'll be 'missing out' on dozens of other great places. So just go with your gut, pick some places and go have a good time there. I don't think there's a 'correct' answer.
Aside:
Quote: (06-15-2015 06:47 PM)TheBMan Wrote:No way. Even today, a large big mac meal or similar will cost you about 5 quid. Even at an extreme exchange rate, that's less than $10.
I remember having lunch in London at McDonalds and spending like $16 for an extra value meal
It really depends on what you want. If you want to see all the sights, which every tourist is eager to see, than you should go to western europe.
If it is more about the girls, I would suggest you to visit eastern europe.
What about your budget? That's an important issue because especially the western european capitals tend to be really, really expensive.
If you have three weeks time, I would also suggest you to take your time and not to rush through all the places. Less is more.
If it is more about the girls, I would suggest you to visit eastern europe.
What about your budget? That's an important issue because especially the western european capitals tend to be really, really expensive.
If you have three weeks time, I would also suggest you to take your time and not to rush through all the places. Less is more.
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Quote: (06-15-2015 04:03 PM)theVampire Wrote:
Western Europe is the king of geographical beauty. Highlights The coast of Italy south France and Spain
Eastern Europe will be the king of Beautiful women. Highlights will be Kiev, Moscow, Minsk
Pretty much black-and-white.
Prague will be a happy medium where you can experience a little bit of both: city beauty and female beauty in one.
Haha whats up with everybody thinking they are much prettier in the East than in the West of Europe. Where are you from if I may ask?
I can say that at least in Poland and Czech Republic girls are not prettier than in the West.
But, the girls might be more receptive in Central and Eastern Europe.
Maybe Balkan has prettier women then Western Europe.
But on topic of course Western Europe is worth it. You just have to know where to look for your demographics.
I could advise to just put up a tent on a camping in the Southwest of France for 2 or 3 weeks in summer, if you have some game and know French, guaranteed you will get laid in the summer by a cute French girl. Daygame, nightgame, camping game. This is best done with a friend or travel partner. Maybe not a place to spend all your travels, but it is more an example to make a point.
Quote: (06-16-2015 09:50 AM)mastauser Wrote:
Quote: (06-15-2015 04:03 PM)theVampire Wrote:
Western Europe is the king of geographical beauty. Highlights The coast of Italy south France and Spain
Eastern Europe will be the king of Beautiful women. Highlights will be Kiev, Moscow, Minsk
Pretty much black-and-white.
Prague will be a happy medium where you can experience a little bit of both: city beauty and female beauty in one.
Haha whats up with everybody thinking they are much prettier in the East than in the West of Europe. Where are you from if I may ask?
I can say that at least in Poland and Czech Republic girls are not prettier than in the West.
But, the girls might be more receptive in Central and Eastern Europe.
Maybe Balkan has prettier women then Western Europe.
But on topic of course Western Europe is worth it. You just have to know where to look for your demographics.
I could advise to just put up a tent on a camping in the Southwest of France for 2 or 3 weeks in summer, if you have some game and know French, guaranteed you will get laid in the summer by a cute French girl. Daygame, nightgame, camping game. This is best done with a friend or travel partner. Maybe not a place to spend all your travels, but it is more an example to make a point.
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Quote: (06-16-2015 04:32 AM)El_Mono Wrote:
It really depends on what you want. If you want to see all the sights, which every tourist is eager to see, than you should go to western europe.
If it is more about the girls, I would suggest you to visit eastern europe.
What about your budget? That's an important issue because especially the western european capitals tend to be really, really expensive.
If you have three weeks time, I would also suggest you to take your time and not to rush through all the places. Less is more.
Agree with all that is said. I live in the Netherlands, so I may be biased but I don't think Amsterdam is very special. Not to mention eastern europe is way cheaper.
And it's best to take it slow and have some fun staying in the same cities for a few days instead of rushing everything.
Berlin is the only place definitely worth visiting. the rest you can do when you are older and have more time and money.
If you are thinking of going to Amsterdam.... Don't! Go to Hamburg instead. Way better, cheaper and basically the same thing except its not legal to smoke weed.
I get the feeling that we have all become too lazy when it come to picking up women. That's why we are so keen on eastern Europe. Western European girls take effort.
If you are thinking of going to Amsterdam.... Don't! Go to Hamburg instead. Way better, cheaper and basically the same thing except its not legal to smoke weed.
I get the feeling that we have all become too lazy when it come to picking up women. That's why we are so keen on eastern Europe. Western European girls take effort.
The less fucks you give, the more fucks you get.
Quote: (06-16-2015 11:07 AM)Driesinator Wrote:
Quote: (06-16-2015 09:50 AM)mastauser Wrote:
Quote: (06-15-2015 04:03 PM)theVampire Wrote:
Western Europe is the king of geographical beauty. Highlights The coast of Italy south France and Spain
Eastern Europe will be the king of Beautiful women. Highlights will be Kiev, Moscow, Minsk
Pretty much black-and-white.
Prague will be a happy medium where you can experience a little bit of both: city beauty and female beauty in one.
Haha whats up with everybody thinking they are much prettier in the East than in the West of Europe. Where are you from if I may ask?
I can say that at least in Poland and Czech Republic girls are not prettier than in the West.
But, the girls might be more receptive in Central and Eastern Europe.
Maybe Balkan has prettier women then Western Europe.
But on topic of course Western Europe is worth it. You just have to know where to look for your demographics.
I could advise to just put up a tent on a camping in the Southwest of France for 2 or 3 weeks in summer, if you have some game and know French, guaranteed you will get laid in the summer by a cute French girl. Daygame, nightgame, camping game. This is best done with a friend or travel partner. Maybe not a place to spend all your travels, but it is more an example to make a point.
Haha Driesinator, tell me about your observations.
I had a Czech teenage class visiting our high school for a few days, and we visited their high school and stayed a few days.
The quality of our Dutch class was much better then the Czech class. There was ONE hot Czech girl and I still remember her name.
Also, when I was in Prague, the quality was not as good as in Amsterdam, Paris or Madrid.
Polish girls are cuter then Czech, but still not as pretty as Dutch, Flemish, French, Norwegian and Spanish girls at least.
Why do you, Driesinator, think they are hotter in Central / East than in West? This is not to say that at least Polish (which are not Eastern Europe) or Eastern Europe girls might be more fun to be with.
I must say that Dutch girls don't age that gracefully, but Polish girls don't, too.
For girls that age better, go to France or Spain.
EDIT: Spalex is spot on. I've never been to Hamburg, though, but is high on my to-be-visited list. I've seen more talent in Berlin than in Krakow.
And of course the are stunners in CE and EE.
Highest concentrations of hot girls that I have seen in Europe are (among other places) in Biarritz, Hossegor, Paris, Trondheim, Granada (Spain), Madrid, The Netherlands.
@mastrauser
Why do you, Driesinator, think they are hotter in Central / East than in West?
Western European women are sloppy, slutty, careerist and unfeminine. Ofcourse there are beautiful women here but there are much fewer of them compared to EE and Central Europe. And it's only getting worse.
EE women , combined with their more feminine personality , are also on average aesthetically more beautiful and thinner than their Western counterparts.
Why do you think so many supermodels and porn stars come from places like Ukraine or the Czech Republic?
On average, a Ukrainian 6 is a Belgian and Dutch 8 , especially when it comes to the younger girls. I know this because i live here.
I also live in a multicultural place, all the beautiful girls here are foreign and come from places like Poland, Ukraine, Brazil and Romania. They outshine the native Flemish girls in every way.
You want more proof? Read the rest of the forum.
Why do you, Driesinator, think they are hotter in Central / East than in West?
Western European women are sloppy, slutty, careerist and unfeminine. Ofcourse there are beautiful women here but there are much fewer of them compared to EE and Central Europe. And it's only getting worse.
EE women , combined with their more feminine personality , are also on average aesthetically more beautiful and thinner than their Western counterparts.
Why do you think so many supermodels and porn stars come from places like Ukraine or the Czech Republic?
On average, a Ukrainian 6 is a Belgian and Dutch 8 , especially when it comes to the younger girls. I know this because i live here.
I also live in a multicultural place, all the beautiful girls here are foreign and come from places like Poland, Ukraine, Brazil and Romania. They outshine the native Flemish girls in every way.
You want more proof? Read the rest of the forum.
I'm going to get flamed for this...
But I don't think EE women are more beautiful than what you'll find in a big west euro city like Barcelona -- especially in summer.
Hot women go where the money (and fun) is at. That's not in EE.
For a young guy especially, I think you're going to have more fun in Barcelona than say Moscow.
Hordes of young sluts looking to hook up, both local and foreign.
If you notice, the guys pushing EE as a paradise are usually older (35+). For them, it easier to date younger. There's more online options. etc...
But frankly, I find EE women rather prudish and overrated in the looks department too.
If you have an ounce of game, western europe is better.
But I don't think EE women are more beautiful than what you'll find in a big west euro city like Barcelona -- especially in summer.
Hot women go where the money (and fun) is at. That's not in EE.
For a young guy especially, I think you're going to have more fun in Barcelona than say Moscow.
Hordes of young sluts looking to hook up, both local and foreign.
If you notice, the guys pushing EE as a paradise are usually older (35+). For them, it easier to date younger. There's more online options. etc...
But frankly, I find EE women rather prudish and overrated in the looks department too.
If you have an ounce of game, western europe is better.
Quote: (06-16-2015 01:17 PM)Driesinator Wrote:
@mastrauser
Why do you, Driesinator, think they are hotter in Central / East than in West?
Western European women are sloppy, slutty, careerist and unfeminine. Ofcourse there are beautiful women here but there are much fewer of them compared to EE and Central Europe. And it's only getting worse.
Maybe it could be a matter of age? The younger western girls I meet (18-23) are not like that so much yet and yes especially in Amsterdam when they get older they get really annoying careerist women.
But to OP, you should just go to university cities where the girls are quite pretty and easiest. Could be in a lot of countries. Prague is not the best in quality. Southern Europe is where I do quite good I think. Maybe you have for a taste or click with Eastern European girls, but lack experience there as well.
Quote: (06-16-2015 12:35 AM)Espresso Wrote:
OP,
Both Western Europe and Eastern Europe are great. If you only have 3 weeks, there's only so much you can do, Europe is a big place.
My advice is, don't sweat it. No matter where you pick, you'll be 'missing out' on dozens of other great places. So just go with your gut, pick some places and go have a good time there. I don't think there's a 'correct' answer.
Aside:
Quote: (06-15-2015 06:47 PM)TheBMan Wrote:No way. Even today, a large big mac meal or similar will cost you about 5 quid. Even at an extreme exchange rate, that's less than $10.
I remember having lunch in London at McDonalds and spending like $16 for an extra value meal
This was in 2007 when the dollar/pound ratio was 2/1
Depends on your budget, and how you roll I guess.
If you want to have a crazy September of hitting capitals and getting wow's from your friends that you've been to this big city, or this big tourist attraction and have a fb/instagram full of cool photos then do that. There will be tourists/local girls around everywhere.
If you want to go to places just to chase girls, then do that. There's plenty of advice on all the places in the forum.
Or do a bit of both, hit up some big cities, spend some $$$, do some touristy stuff and then hit some smaller cheaper places. A lot of euro flights are super cheap, and trains are pretty good in most countries.
Personally...I'd probably do
Krakow 5 days
Budapest 5 days
Bratislava 1/2 days (either a friday or saturday, otherwise don't bother)
Vienna 2 days (day game mainly)
Prague 5 days
+ 2 days flying
you can get reasonable (less than 20 euros) bus/trains between most of these (which also gives you 4 or so hours to chat to any girls in your carriage...met quite a few on between budapest/bratislava/prague when travelling on a monday/friday)
Whatever you do...enjoy it...and have fun!
If you want to have a crazy September of hitting capitals and getting wow's from your friends that you've been to this big city, or this big tourist attraction and have a fb/instagram full of cool photos then do that. There will be tourists/local girls around everywhere.
If you want to go to places just to chase girls, then do that. There's plenty of advice on all the places in the forum.
Or do a bit of both, hit up some big cities, spend some $$$, do some touristy stuff and then hit some smaller cheaper places. A lot of euro flights are super cheap, and trains are pretty good in most countries.
Personally...I'd probably do
Krakow 5 days
Budapest 5 days
Bratislava 1/2 days (either a friday or saturday, otherwise don't bother)
Vienna 2 days (day game mainly)
Prague 5 days
+ 2 days flying
you can get reasonable (less than 20 euros) bus/trains between most of these (which also gives you 4 or so hours to chat to any girls in your carriage...met quite a few on between budapest/bratislava/prague when travelling on a monday/friday)
Whatever you do...enjoy it...and have fun!
THIS is a very fine question!
My first thought on reading your query is this: DO add Berlin to Prague - it's not far away and definitely up-and-coming. And do visit our cousins - visit London first, if you can.
My second thought is this. I was fortunate to first visit Europe with family for a month one summer at the early age of 13. Since then, I've had many trips and part of the year abroad to Europe. Despite that, I've never visited Paris (and despite majoring in art history [and hsitory], in part because of early exposure to Europe). DO I feel I've missed out? Naw. Not really.
But I've also never been to Italy. I feel a longing to hike the Dolomites in "Sud Tyrol" (won from Austria in the First World War), visit Milan and Lake Como, Florence, maybe the D' Amalfi coast (Italian Riviera).
And to visit...I'm forgetting..Tuscani and near by....But you get the picture!
Therefore, I say this to you: visit England, by all means. They are America's cousins - our cultural hearth and political homeland. Our institutions and life-blood was born there and transmitted from there.
Then add as needed and desired.
If you are bit by the travel bug, there will always be more to see. Over time, your list of "musts" and interests will change, just as when visiting NYC, Washington, DC, California, or the Rockies.
Europe is no different in this respect - simply older than the America we know better.
My first thought on reading your query is this: DO add Berlin to Prague - it's not far away and definitely up-and-coming. And do visit our cousins - visit London first, if you can.
My second thought is this. I was fortunate to first visit Europe with family for a month one summer at the early age of 13. Since then, I've had many trips and part of the year abroad to Europe. Despite that, I've never visited Paris (and despite majoring in art history [and hsitory], in part because of early exposure to Europe). DO I feel I've missed out? Naw. Not really.
But I've also never been to Italy. I feel a longing to hike the Dolomites in "Sud Tyrol" (won from Austria in the First World War), visit Milan and Lake Como, Florence, maybe the D' Amalfi coast (Italian Riviera).
And to visit...I'm forgetting..Tuscani and near by....But you get the picture!
Therefore, I say this to you: visit England, by all means. They are America's cousins - our cultural hearth and political homeland. Our institutions and life-blood was born there and transmitted from there.
Then add as needed and desired.
If you are bit by the travel bug, there will always be more to see. Over time, your list of "musts" and interests will change, just as when visiting NYC, Washington, DC, California, or the Rockies.
Europe is no different in this respect - simply older than the America we know better.
“There is no global anthem, no global currency, no certificate of global citizenship. We pledge allegiance to one flag, and that flag is the American flag!” -DJT
I did a bit over 3 weeks last year..I did Prague,Vienna ,Barca, Marbella last year but jetlag fucked me up hard I was in a mind fog for like 4 days in Prague..flying in from OZ..I really enjoyed it for 1 day then had to fly out.I want to go back to Prague ,it feels like unfinished business.
For me though even at 44 it's Spain.All those Scando and euro women on holiday down to fuck .Love the place especially Barca..
For me though even at 44 it's Spain.All those Scando and euro women on holiday down to fuck .Love the place especially Barca..
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THANK YOU for clarifying your status, Dan! (We Yankees and NorAms dominate here so much, this small but important fact can get lost or too easily overlooked. Sorry.)
"I'm not American and I've never been to United States."
THANK YOU for clarifying your status, Dan! (We Yankees and NorAms dominate here so much, this small but important fact can get lost or too easily overlooked. Sorry.)
“There is no global anthem, no global currency, no certificate of global citizenship. We pledge allegiance to one flag, and that flag is the American flag!” -DJT
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