[Samseau]

Peter Thiel predicts US Economy is fucked by 2020:

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(06-23-2015 03:14 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

Peter Thiel predicts US Economy is fucked by 2020:

Peter Thiel is CFR member and has been pushed as the next "superstar" wise man. Alternative propaganda is being spouted on Glenn Beck like nowhere else - but here more with a libertarian laissez-faire leaning. Their policies would collapse the economy even faster.

[Samseau]

(06-23-2015 03:26 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

(06-23-2015 03:14 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

Peter Thiel predicts US Economy is fucked by 2020:

Peter Thiel is CFR member and has been pushed as the next "superstar" wise man. Alternative propaganda is being spouted on Glenn Beck like nowhere else - but here more with a libertarian laissez-faire leaning. Their policies would collapse the economy even faster.

They want a collapse sooner so they can recover faster.

[SunW]

A longer interview with Thiel (very good):

This the discussion about the real connecting to the virtual is gold, as well as culture breaking down into smaller groups (a repeat of the Tower of Babel).

[The Beast1]

Won't lie, if there is a soviet style collapse it will be really interesting to see what those sealed records of the CIA and NSA contain.

[RexImperator]

I don't know if it will Soviet-style or Austria-Hungary-style but I do believe the dissolution of the United States is more likely than not to occur in the 21st century, and I agree with Vox Day that it will probably happen within the next twenty years, due to demographics. The question is where will the borders be, and how peaceful will the breakup be? (That most of California except for the most northern portion will go is already a given...)

Vox Day Wrote:

Partition of the United States is coming, whether you believe it or not, and it will most likely begin within the next two decades. I hope it will be accomplished peacefully, and with a reasonable amount of justice and good will on every side, but I am skeptical that this will be possible, in part because the vast majority of people are still hopelessly delusional about the very nature of the multinational empire in which they reside.

http://voxday.blogspot.com/2017/10/mailv...erica.html

[Leonard D Neubache]

(06-23-2015 06:39 PM)The Beast1 Wrote:  

Won't lie, if there is a soviet style collapse it will be really interesting to see what those sealed records of the CIA and NSA contain.

You'll want to get in there fast.

[RoastBeefCurtains4Me]

This thread was started 1 day before Trump announced his candadicy, and all but today's posts were within a week after the thread started.

Many of the issues discussed in the thread are still factors, but Trump's election has greatly improved America's chances. The question is whether Trump will merely delay the collapse, or make America great enough to make a change that lasts long after his second term is over. I think the latter is quite possible, far from certain.

[The Beast1]

(10-08-2017 06:55 PM)RoastBeefCurtains4Me Wrote:  

This thread was started 1 day before Trump announced his candadicy, and all but today's posts were within a week after the thread started.

Many of the issues discussed in the thread are still factors, but Trump's election has greatly improved America's chances. The question is whether Trump will merely delay the collapse, or make America great enough to make a change that lasts long after his second term is over. I think the latter is quite possible, far from certain.

Trump is a sign that America will have a future.

Brexit was also a sign that the UK also has a future.

The rest of Europe, well...

[Striking]

(06-15-2015 02:46 PM)Sonsowey Wrote:  

It is shocking to think back at just how "permanent" the Soviet Union looked, and how surprising its complete breakup was. The Soviet Union survived World War II, massive famines, and when it broke up did not really seem to be at its most "desperate" point, its history considered.

Nothing lasts forever, but I still doubt we'll se the U.S. Government collapse in the next few decades.

The Soviet Union didn't just breakup on its own -- David Rockefeller broke it up. He single handedly (along with his trilateral commission) both plotted the removal of Gorbachev after failing to turn him, and convinced Yeltsin to completely give up on Communism and adopt a free market. Russia as it exists today is his creation.

Men of power make things happen; they don't just happen.

[Matt Forney]

(10-08-2017 06:55 PM)RoastBeefCurtains4Me Wrote:  

This thread was started 1 day before Trump announced his candadicy, and all but today's posts were within a week after the thread started.

Many of the issues discussed in the thread are still factors, but Trump's election has greatly improved America's chances. The question is whether Trump will merely delay the collapse, or make America great enough to make a change that lasts long after his second term is over. I think the latter is quite possible, far from certain.

At best, Trump has given us more time on the clock. As AnonymousBosch has pointed out in other threads, Candidate Trump may have wanted to Make America Great Again, but President Trump cares more about Making Israel Safe Again.

Trump has failed to clamp down on an increasingly violent left in any substantive way, which is bad because his very entrance onto the political scene caused the left to lurch towards open Marxism. We now live in a country where the news media and entertainment industries are openly warring with America's founding stock, where West Point graduates can openly signal their communist beliefs and only get a slap on the wrist, and where three trustafarian bugmen can make $90,000 a month shilling Trotskyism under the guise of hosting an "ironybro" podcast. Oh, and if you try to organize a pro-Trump, pro-white rally under anything other than cover of darkness, you'll be shut down by city/state governments and/or devoured by mace-wielding antifas.

Deportations and action on illegal aliens has increased, which is a good thing. But it needs to ramp up, and the demographic issue still needs to be dealt with. Even if every illegal was deported tomorrow, America would still be on track to become majority non-white before the century is up. The next Democratic presidential candidate will be a mashup of Bernie Sanders and DeRay Mckesson: open socialism and open anti-white race-baiting. They get in power again, they will show no mercy to Trump, his supporters, or the right in general.

Kosovo used to be majority Serbian, and the Albanians who now form a majority there emigrated and had children legally. That's our future unless action is taken now. I'm not pessimistic that Trump will help turn things around, but I'm not optimistic either.

(10-08-2017 03:57 PM)RexImperator Wrote:  

I don't know if it will Soviet-style or Austria-Hungary-style but I do believe the dissolution of the United States is more likely than not to occur in the 21st century, and I agree with Vox Day that it will probably happen within the next twenty years, due to demographics. The question is where will the borders be, and how peaceful will the breakup be? (That most of California except for the most northern portion will go is already a given...)

A likely parallel would be Europe around the time of the World Wars. World War I was caused by nationalist irredentism on the part of Serbia; World War II was fueled by irredentism on the part of every country that had its borders rearranged by the Treaties of Versailles and Trianon, leaving ethnic populations stranded outside of their host countries. Everyone knows the obvious case of Germans in Czechoslovakia and Poland, but there was also the issue of Lithuanians, Ukrainians, and Belarusians in Poland, Hungarians in Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia, and Romania, Greeks in Turkey, Turks in Greece etc.

World War II solved the problem through the misleading euphemism of "population transfers" (read: rape, ethnic cleansing, and genocide carried out by the Soviet Red Army, on top of the Holocaust). As a result, there are basically no Poles left in Ukraine, no Lithuanians in Poland, no Germans in Poland or the Czech Republic, no Hungarians in Slovakia or the former Yugoslavia, and no Jews anywhere. Pre-WWII Poland was only about 65 percent Polish; now it's 98 percent Polish.

I'm not advocating violence. I'm just saying that it was how post-World War I Europe ended up "solving" the problem of ethnic tension. It's also a possible future for the U.S.

[Leonard D Neubache]

It's hard to imagine a world without the USA, but it's also hard to imagine a path to securing it's future beyond the next 20 years. Even if it survived it would be in name only. Like going to Marseilles and instead if seeing 'French' people you see nothing but Africans and Arabs.

If the globalists aren't fundamentally stopped by the time Trump leaves the Whitehouse then there wont be a state left in the union that isn't suddenly enriched with the endless flood of hostile illiterates perpetually spawned by the million in the blighted holes of this planet.

And when everywhere is either Yemen or Ethiopia and no trace of culture, pride, brotherhood or patriotism remains, the elites will pick out the useful ten percent and genocide the rest.

[Easy_C]

Actually striking....it goes deeper than that.

There's a reason they hate Putin so much. Putin was NOT supposed to be in charge of Russia, and upended a planned soft coup of Russia. He also killed one of the people(Edmond Safra) who had been involved in the plot to blackmail Yeltsin.

[Striking]

(10-09-2017 08:21 PM)Easy_C Wrote:  

Actually striking....it goes deeper than that.

There's a reason they hate Putin so much. Putin was NOT supposed to be in charge of Russia, and upended a planned soft coup of Russia. He also killed one of the people(Edmond Safra) who had been involved in the plot to blackmail Yeltsin.

Yes, but Putin comes later, and frankly Rockefeller had retired at that point. What I meant by "it's his creation" is the by economic way in which the country is run -- or how it was supposed to be. Rockefeller did the same thing with Mexico by acting through Salinas -- privatize everything; drastically reduce government size; redistribute the wealth held by the government into the hands of a few business minded plutocrats; minimize business regulations and welfare.

It worked great for both Russia (much better than communism) and Mexico; countries that produce great individual intellect yet have a general population whose IQs aren't as high as in Western European countries. Russia now is of course much worse off than Mexico, but that's another problem.

[N°6]

I recall reading this article just after the financial crash of 2007/08.

Quote:

US will collapse and break up, Russian analyst predicts
The United States will collapse under the burden of its financial crisis and fracture into six parts, a Russian political analyst has predicted.


In an interview with the Russian newspaper Izvestia, he outlined how the US would divide along ethnic and cultural lines.

They are: the Pacific coast with its growing Chinese population; the increasingly Hispanic South; independence-minded Texas; the Atlantic Coast; a central state with a large Native American population; and the northern states where – he maintains – Canadian influence is strong.

Alaska could be claimed by Russia, he said, claiming that the region was "only granted on lease, after all".

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnew...dicts.html

[N°6]

(10-09-2017 08:21 PM)Easy_C Wrote:  

Actually striking....it goes deeper than that.

There's a reason they hate Putin so much. Putin was NOT supposed to be in charge of Russia, and upended a planned soft coup of Russia. He also killed one of the people(Edmond Safra) who had been involved in the plot to blackmail Yeltsin.

Which would mean that this is the second time in a century this has happened.

Trotsky was supposed to replace one of the last caesars not Stalin.

Likewise, the drunk and easily blackmailed Yeltsin was supposed to be the international liberal-left's man to replace the USSR and open it up to liberal social mores which is the necessary precursor for liberal financial policies.

Stalin actually reversed much of Trotsky's SJW policies:

*abortion on demand
*divorce
*permissiveness of homosexuality
*marriage being viewed as female slavery
*the factory or office canteen to replace the family dinner table

Worse, Stalin's show trials were the public purging of these Anarchist/ SJW/ Trotskyite elements. Those who escaped to the West never forgot this and by the 1960s when General de Gaulle attempted to create a détente with the more conservative USSR, the CIA unleashed the SJW/ boomer May 1968 brigade onto the streets of Paris. This was the upper middle class generation which not only liberalised France's social mores but also its fiscal policies.

The coincidences of Putin's counter-conservative social views against the liberal values of the NGOs (Pussy Riot) and multi-national corporations is uncanny. Had Marine le Pen become president, she would have renewed Franco-Russian links.

[RoastBeefCurtains4Me]

Matt,

I've generally agree with the things you write, but I've noticed that you've become more hard core in favor of traditional Western Civilization in recent months. You've had several strongly worded posts here in just the past week or two.

I believe you're living in Hungary now. Would you say your views on things have been evolving since you've been there? What are some of the factors that affect your thinking?

(10-09-2017 06:36 AM)Matt Forney Wrote:  

(10-08-2017 06:55 PM)RoastBeefCurtains4Me Wrote:  

This thread was started 1 day before Trump announced his candadicy, and all but today's posts were within a week after the thread started.

Many of the issues discussed in the thread are still factors, but Trump's election has greatly improved America's chances. The question is whether Trump will merely delay the collapse, or make America great enough to make a change that lasts long after his second term is over. I think the latter is quite possible, far from certain.

At best, Trump has given us more time on the clock. As AnonymousBosch has pointed out in other threads, Candidate Trump may have wanted to Make America Great Again, but President Trump cares more about Making Israel Safe Again.

Trump has failed to clamp down on an increasingly violent left in any substantive way, which is bad because his very entrance onto the political scene caused the left to lurch towards open Marxism. We now live in a country where the news media and entertainment industries are openly warring with America's founding stock, where West Point graduates can openly signal their communist beliefs and only get a slap on the wrist, and where three trustafarian bugmen can make $90,000 a month shilling Trotskyism under the guise of hosting an "ironybro" podcast. Oh, and if you try to organize a pro-Trump, pro-white rally under anything other than cover of darkness, you'll be shut down by city/state governments and/or devoured by mace-wielding antifas.

Deportations and action on illegal aliens has increased, which is a good thing. But it needs to ramp up, and the demographic issue still needs to be dealt with. Even if every illegal was deported tomorrow, America would still be on track to become majority non-white before the century is up. The next Democratic presidential candidate will be a mashup of Bernie Sanders and DeRay Mckesson: open socialism and open anti-white race-baiting. They get in power again, they will show no mercy to Trump, his supporters, or the right in general.

Kosovo used to be majority Serbian, and the Albanians who now form a majority there emigrated and had children legally. That's our future unless action is taken now. I'm not pessimistic that Trump will help turn things around, but I'm not optimistic either.

(10-08-2017 03:57 PM)RexImperator Wrote:  

I don't know if it will Soviet-style or Austria-Hungary-style but I do believe the dissolution of the United States is more likely than not to occur in the 21st century, and I agree with Vox Day that it will probably happen within the next twenty years, due to demographics. The question is where will the borders be, and how peaceful will the breakup be? (That most of California except for the most northern portion will go is already a given...)

A likely parallel would be Europe around the time of the World Wars. World War I was caused by nationalist irredentism on the part of Serbia; World War II was fueled by irredentism on the part of every country that had its borders rearranged by the Treaties of Versailles and Trianon, leaving ethnic populations stranded outside of their host countries. Everyone knows the obvious case of Germans in Czechoslovakia and Poland, but there was also the issue of Lithuanians, Ukrainians, and Belarusians in Poland, Hungarians in Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia, and Romania, Greeks in Turkey, Turks in Greece etc.

World War II solved the problem through the misleading euphemism of "population transfers" (read: rape, ethnic cleansing, and genocide carried out by the Soviet Red Army, on top of the Holocaust). As a result, there are basically no Poles left in Ukraine, no Lithuanians in Poland, no Germans in Poland or the Czech Republic, no Hungarians in Slovakia or the former Yugoslavia, and no Jews anywhere. Pre-WWII Poland was only about 65 percent Polish; now it's 98 percent Polish.

I'm not advocating violence. I'm just saying that it was how post-World War I Europe ended up "solving" the problem of ethnic tension. It's also a possible future for the U.S.

[Laska]

(06-23-2015 03:14 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

Peter Thiel predicts US Economy is fucked by 2020:

It's seemingly impossible to predict economic crashes, and economic crashes rarely lead to an economy becoming permanently terrible. There's been a HUGE credit increase, so at some point there will be massive inflation and a big flash crash, but that could be years from now at a point the economy is growing well. The biggest thing to dread is when the government is unable to pay for the "public" trough. The thread title is very accurate.

[Kid Twist]

^ Funny how that Beck video shows how even smart people don't know what they don't know. I wonder what Thiel or Beck would say now, looking back at that video.

[LeeEnfield303]

Beck can't say anything because he's drooling into his Muesli at some whackadoodle farm somewhere.